Ridge to raise Terror Alert, news conf. 1:30 pm Eastern

Fox News-TV

[putupon]

announcement, nothing furthur

[WackyKat]

Did Monica fear the cuban missile bill gave her

It was an Arkansas toothpick

[EllaMinnow]

Thanks for the ping. I watched the presser, and was quite impressed by Ridge's tone.

[al baby]

u fast

[NeoCaveman]

To: Trust but Verify 'First of all, how is it that YOU know there are terrorist cells in NJ?'
First hand knowledge. I have provided evidence against the 93 WTC cell to the FBI, for starters. How's that?
362 posted on 12/21/2003 2:22:52 PM EST by At _War_With_Liberals

Emerson's map from his book "Jihad in America" certainly showed cells in New Jersey and in almost all major U.S. population centers if not all of them.

[Labyrinthos]

Sure, as soon as you country folks give back your federal farming subsidies.

And don't get me started on the county folk in the most famous pork barrel state of all - WVa.

[relee]

Hillary, pelosio, boxer have lunch together

LOL! Now that's scary.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

FOX NEWS
SHUTUP!
And stop showing pictures of our
airports and giving terrorists new ideas.

[SierraWasp]

"we likely did, it was the Saudis, that's why it was never publicized."

Which ones? They didn't all do it! Was it government officials, or Saudi wahabisto's as private terror friendly tribal wannabe's? I hope you answer these questions, or at least make an attempt.

[mylife]

Severe Condition (Red). A Severe Condition reflects a severe risk of terrorist attacks. Under most circumstances, the Protective Measures for a Severe Condition are not intended to be sustained for substantial periods of time. In addition to the Protective Measures in the previous Threat Conditions, Federal departments and agencies also should consider the following general measures in addition to the agency-specific Protective Measures that they will develop and implement:
Increasing or redirecting personnel to address critical emergency needs;
Assigning emergency response personnel and pre-positioning and mobilizing specially trained teams or resources;
Monitoring, redirecting, or constraining transportation systems; and
Closing public and government facilities.

[Orangedog]

And I'd estimate that probably 8 out of 10 or 9 out of 10 airliners would survive a hit from a Soviet SA-7. Not that getting hit with one is a trivial thing (ask the pilots of that DHL plane in Baghdad) but the warheads are awfully tiny.

I'm not up on the specs of the SA-7's. They may or may not have an operational envelope like the Stinger or Redeye. The Stinger isn't supposed to be able to be usefull below a few thousand feet, but they seemed to be useful at dropping Soviet choppers during the 1980's.

My guess would be that if missiles are used, the best chance at dropping a passenger jet would be shortly after takeoff, when a plane would need the power of all it's engines to gain altitude or possibly on approach to landing. Picking off plane on approach for a landing seems even more likely as it would throw a wrench into things if all planes were ordered to land ASAP.

[Trust but Verify]

My point is that HS has it's plate full worrying about those who pose a security risk to the safety of Americans. I don't think they should be using their resources to ferret out Jose Gonzalez who is harvesting lettuce and sending his earnings back to his wife and 6 kids in Mexico.

You give them no credit. It's been 27 months since 9/11 and we have not had another attack. I suppose that's in spite of what HS has been doing, not because of it.

I don't expect them to tell us about every cell, every specific threat or every person who they have under surveillance. I expect them to do their job, and to this minute, they are.

[biffalobull]

Better safe than sorry, I guess... I was in NYC the last time the threat level was raised to orange. My friends back in Hoosierland were freakin' out until I told them that NYC had been on orange *since* 9/11/01, IIRC.

People do not understand. We are playing right into their hands. You don't have to have a physical act of violence to be terrorized.

The terrorists are winning this "war on terror" against us, without firing a shot.

We are spending millions protecting ourselves against fear. They have this country terrified and that is their goal.This color coded alert chart is nonsence. What should I do different today, with orange , or with red tomorrow.

No country in the world could win a war against the USA militarily. But whoever the terrorists are, I beleive they are winning their war against the US.

IMHO

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"Again, what specifically should he say? The exact location, the city, the exact delivery mechanism/vehicle, what? "

If they know these things, OF COURSE they should reveal them.


Are you saying that if the govt knows that a bomb may explode in my city, they should NOT tell me?

[Trust but Verify]

What is the point? I trust that HS does not divulge all the info they have. As it should be.

[Catspaw]

You may want to review, sakic. George Herbert Walker Bush (#41) was stranded in Minneapolis on 9/11, and for a few days afterwards.

[mtbopfuyn]

Why doesn't NYC pay for it's own damn security, and let us country folks take care of ourselves?

Sure, as soon as you country folks give back your federal farming subsidies.

We have.

[nevergore]

"Thank heavens I have a stock of fruit cake on hand. With a single case, you could live for months!"

The real question is: Would you want to? A fruitcake diet would remove my will to live.....

NeverGore :^)

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"Emerson's map from his book "Jihad in America" certainly showed cells in New Jersey and in almost all major U.S. population centers if not all of them."

And the govt map says no cells in NJ. There were multiple threads on FR about this in late summer.

[kstewskis]

ROTFLOL!!!