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Ridge to raise Terror Alert, news conf. 1:30 pm Eastern
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Posted on 12/21/2003 9:34:27 AM PST by putupon

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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Because it is a goofy system that conveys very little real information : it is like someone yelling "LOOK OUT" but not telling you WHAT to look out for!

Well, I guess they CAN'T be unPC enough to mention the most likely suspects.

My work receives those homeland defense notices and they are so vague that weather forecasters appear precise by comparison.

161 posted on 12/21/2003 10:31:43 AM PST by hoosierham
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To: Trust but Verify
"How many of these terrorist attacks have been perpetrated by illegals from south of the border... "

The fact is that there are a lot of middle easterners sneaking into the country through the southern border because its such an easy way in.

Should we stand at the border and say..... OK Mexican illegals are "legal", but others are "illegal"...... I don't know about you, but in my book ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL no matter who is doing it!

162 posted on 12/21/2003 10:32:01 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: eno_
without ANY specifics at all,

The specifics are the mega increase in communications amongst the terrorist.Al Zawahir's announcement, and a dozen other events. there is plenty of reason to raise our awareness.

163 posted on 12/21/2003 10:32:08 AM PST by mylife
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To: riri
I like War Stories.
164 posted on 12/21/2003 10:32:11 AM PST by mathluv
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To: riri
In my family, it would make you a "gun whacko". Not joking.

Not in our family--and I'm not joking. But remember, we're from Wisconsin, where, except for the larger cities of Milwaukee and mushy-headed Madison, it's rural or near rural. Hunting is a long tradition in our family, on both sides, going back generations. When my daughter moved to New Jersey, she couldn't figure out what was wrong with the tree huggers trying to save the deer (she once suggested at a town meeting that instead of a deer hunt, they reintroduce wolf and cougar into the area to thin the deer herd) when her area was overrun with deer.

Hunting is hugely popular here. At late season Packers games, you'd swear the Packers changed their colors from green & gold to blaze orange, if you go by the wearing apparel of the attending crowd.

Anyway, I know they'll love the hunting caps.

165 posted on 12/21/2003 10:32:58 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: WackyKat

Show me where I ever expressed any such sentiment. You won't be able to.

166 posted on 12/21/2003 10:33:10 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Miss Marple
Frankly people can't really identify "middle easterners" as easily as they think they can, especially if they don't cooperate by wearing a thick beard and an Arab robe or something. Half the people people would call Middle Easterners are East Indians which are 3000 miles from the "Middle East." Heck, Saddam Hussein cleaned up and in a suit could be Greek, Italian, Spanish, etc.

And AQ has Indonesian, Malaysian members anyway.
167 posted on 12/21/2003 10:33:26 AM PST by John H K
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To: Lessismore
Since capturing Saddam means that we're all a lot safer now, why are we raising the threat level?

Hi, Howard.

168 posted on 12/21/2003 10:33:54 AM PST by firebrand
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To: mylife
I know, but that was the "rumor", that it was a bomber at a mall.
169 posted on 12/21/2003 10:34:06 AM PST by oceanview
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To: nmh
Is this the ONLY reason it was elevated or just special caution to these folks?

Just a specialised warning to folks in the trucking industry in that area.

170 posted on 12/21/2003 10:34:31 AM PST by mylife
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To: John H K
Shelter-in-Place in an Emergency

What Shelter-in-Place Means:


One of the instructions you may be given in an emergency where hazardous materials may have been released into the atmosphere is to shelter-in-place. This is a precaution aimed to keep you safe while remaining indoors. (This is not the same thing as going to a shelter in case of a storm.) Shelter-in-place means selecting a small, interior room, with no or few windows, and taking refuge there. It does not mean sealing off your entire home or office building. If you are told to shelter-in-place, follow the instructions provided in this Fact Sheet.

Why You Might Need to Shelter-in-Place:

Chemical, biological, or radiological contaminants may be released accidentally or intentionally into the environment. Should this occur, information will be provided by local authorities on television and radio stations on how to protect you and your family. Because information will most likely be provided on television and radio, it is important to keep a TV or radio on, even during the workday. The important thing is for you to follow instructions of local authorities and know what to do if they advise you to shelter-in-place.

How to Shelter-in-Place

At Home:

At Work:

171 posted on 12/21/2003 10:34:41 AM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
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To: putupon; dennisw; dighton; aculeus; hellinahandcart; Poohbah
Ridge to raise Terror Alert


172 posted on 12/21/2003 10:34:50 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: oceanview
It has to be Iran or Pakistan.

My guess is Pakistan....but he's got to be moving around.

I didn't see the full text of Zawahiri's latest rant, but like Bin Laden's rants, my guess is that he's encoding messages to the minions.

173 posted on 12/21/2003 10:34:53 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: hoosierham
If your work puts you in key positions, during terror alerts, I sincerely hope your employer is aware of your attitude and beliefs.

I would like to think, all citizens, in the employ of agencies the American public must depend upon for vigilance, security, watchfulness, observation, and judgment, take their duties seriously.
174 posted on 12/21/2003 10:35:15 AM PST by Letitring
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To: putupon
Dallas Cowboys are terrorizing the NY Giants --- 10-3
175 posted on 12/21/2003 10:35:23 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: John H K
You are quite right...I was simply trying to make a point. One should keep in mind that there are all sorts of people involved with AQ, including Black Muslims and suburban types such as Johnny Jihad from California. ANY suspiocious activity should be reported.

People should think of some of the Tom Clancy scenarios and be alert.

176 posted on 12/21/2003 10:35:36 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: cyncooper; Miss Marple
Thanks for your comments, now that reinforcements have arrived, I'm off now to join a large group of people in public and watch a basketball game. And I'm not afraid even though one of our best players is named Muhammed.

Sincerely,
"Jackboot licking toady" Rob
177 posted on 12/21/2003 10:35:40 AM PST by RobFromGa (Why Solve a Problem When It's More Fun to Bitch About it?)
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To: Miss Marple
Re read my response.

"This is only the fourth time that we have been elevated to orange since September 11. FOUR times in two years is not excessive, in my opinion."

I never said it was excessive. What I am interested in is WHY they elevated it. Something specific inspired this. What is it? Trucks, planes, what?

I think it goes without saying that responsible people are vigilent regardless of the terror alert but when it is elevated I believe taxpayers, who pay their salaries have a right to know what is going on. Keeping people in the dark is silly.

178 posted on 12/21/2003 10:35:51 AM PST by nmh
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To: Glenn
Cut back on the coffee. It's making you hysterical.

I just visited the Red Cro$$ site. It doesn't tell me ANYTHING to DO about COFFEE!!! Thanks for pointing out this major oversight. I'm logging off to stock up on the java.

179 posted on 12/21/2003 10:36:35 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Can't we all just get a long gun?)
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To: nmh
I don't know about you but I am weary of these nebulous alerts. It's hard to take these elevated alerts seriously. WHY can't people who PAY the salaries of these security folks know WHAT is going on?

The purpose of the alerts is mainly bureaucratic CYA.

If something does happen, they can say "We warned you!"

Never mind the warning was essentially meaningless because of its total lack of specificity.

The one possible real benefit is that it raises peoples awareness of a threat, so they may be more aware of some unusual activity that they see and may be more likely to report it

180 posted on 12/21/2003 10:37:04 AM PST by WackyKat
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