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Letters the Troops Have Sent Me...by Michael Moore
MichaelMoore.com ^ | 12/19/2003 | Michael Moore

Posted on 12/21/2003 7:44:44 AM PST by Conservative til I die

Letters the Troops Have Sent Me... by Michael Moore

Dear Friends,

As we approach the holidays, I've been thinking a lot about our kids who are in the armed forces serving in Iraq. I've received hundreds of letters from our troops in Iraq -- and they are telling me something very different from what we are seeing on the evening news.

What they are saying to me, often eloquently and in heart-wrenching words, is that they were lied to -- and this war has nothing to do with the security of the United States of America.

I've written back and spoken on the phone to many of them and I've asked a few of them if it would be OK if I posted their letters on my website and they've said yes. They do so at great personal risk (as they may face disciplinary measures for exercising their right to free speech). I thank them for their bravery.

Lance Corporal George Batton of the United States Marine Corps, who returned from Iraq in September (after serving in MP company Alpha), writes the following:

“You'd be surprised at how many of the guys I talked to in my company and others believed that the president's scare about Saddam's WMD was a bunch of bullshit and that the real motivation for this war was only about money. There was also a lot of crap that many companies, not just marine companies, had to go through with not getting enough equipment to fulfill their missions when they crossed the border. It was a miracle that our company did what it did the two months it was staying in Iraq during the war…. We were promised to go home on June 8th, and found out that it was a lie and we got stuck doing missions for an extra three months. Even some of the most radical conservatives in our company including our company gunnery sergeant got a real bad taste in their mouth about the Marine corps, and maybe even president Bush.”

Here's what Specialist Mike Prysner of the U.S. Army wrote to me:

“Dear Mike -- I’m writing this without knowing if it’ll ever get to you…I’m writing it from the trenches of a war (that’s still going on,) not knowing why I’m here or when I’m leaving. I’ve toppled statues and vandalized portraits, while wearing an American flag on my sleeve, and struggling to learn how to understand… I joined the army as soon as I was eligible – turned down a writing scholarship to a state university, eager to serve my country, ready to die for the ideals I fell in love with. Two years later I found myself moments away from a landing onto a pitch black airstrip, ready to charge into a country I didn't believe I belonged in, with your words (from the Oscars) repeating in my head. My time in Iraq has always involved finding things to convince myself that I can be proud of my actions; that I was a part of something just. But no matter what pro-war argument I came up with, I pictured my smirking commander-in-chief, thinking he was fooling a nation…"

An Army private, still in Iraq and wishing to remain anonymous, writes:

“I would like to tell you how difficult it is to serve under a man who was never elected. Because he is the president and my boss, I have to be very careful as to who and what i say about him. This also concerns me a great deal... to limit the military's voice is to limit exactly what America stands for... and the greater percentage of us feel completely underpowered. He continually sets my friends, my family, and several others in a kind of danger that frightens me beyond belief. I know several other soldiers who feel the same way and discuss the situation with me on a regular basis.”

Jerry Oliver of the U.S. Army, who has just returned from Baghdad, writes:

“I have just returned home from "Operation Iraqi Freedom". I spent 5 months in Baghdad, and a total of 3 years in the U.S. Army. I was recently discharged with Honorable valor and returned to the States only to be horrified by what I've seen my country turn into. I'm now 22 years old and have discovered America is such a complicated place to live, and moreover, Americans are almost oblivious to what's been happening to their country. America has become "1984." Homeland security is teaching us to spy on one another and forcing us to become anti-social. Americans are willingly sacrificing our freedoms in the name of security, the same Freedoms I was willing to put my life on the line for. The constitution is in jeopardy. As Gen. Tommy Franks said, (broken down of course) One more terrorist attack and the constitution will hold no meaning.”

And a Specialist in the U.S. Army wrote to me this week about the capture of Saddam Hussein:

“Wow, 130,000 troops on the ground, nearly 500 deaths and over a billion dollars a day, but they caught a guy living in a hole. Am I supposed to be dazzled?”

There are lots more of these, straight from the soldiers who have been on the front lines and have seen first hand what this war is really about.

I have also heard from their friends and relatives, and from other veterans. A mother writing on behalf of her son (whose name we have withheld) wrote:

“My son said that this is the worst it's been since the "end" of the war. He said the troops have been given new rules of engagement, and that they are to "take out" any persons who aggress on the Americans, even if it results in "collateral" damage. Unfortunately, he did have to kill someone in self defense and was told by his commanding officer ‘Good kill.’

"My son replied ‘You just don't get it, do you?’

"Here we are...Vietnam all over again.”

From a 56 year old Navy veteran, relating a conversation he had with a young man who was leaving for Iraq the next morning:

“What disturbed me most was when I asked him what weapons he carried as a truck driver. He told me the new M-16, model blah blah blah, stuff never made sense to me even when I was in. I asked him what kind of side arm they gave him and his fellow drivers. He explained, "Sir, Reservists are not issued side arms or flack vests as there was not enough money to outfit all the Reservists, only Active Personnel". I was appalled to say the least.

"Bush is a jerk agreed, but I can't believe he is this big an Asshole not providing protection and arms for our troops to fight HIS WAR!”

From a 40-year old veteran of the Marine Corps:

“Why is it that we are forever waving the flag of sovereignty, EXCEPT when it concerns our financial interests in other sovereign states? What gives us the right to tell anyone else how they should govern themselves, and live their lives? Why can't we just lead the world by example? I mean no wonder the world hates us, who do they get to see? Young assholes in uniforms with guns, and rich, old, white tourists! Christ, could we put up a worse first impression?”

(To read more from my Iraq mailbag -- and to read these above letters in full -- go to my website: http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/dudewheresmycountry/soldierletters/index.php)

Remember back in March, once the war had started, how risky it was to make any anti-war comments to people you knew at work or school or, um, at awards ceremonies? One thing was for sure -- if you said anything against the war, you had BETTER follow it up immediately with this line: "BUT I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!" Failing to do that meant that you were not only unpatriotic and un-American, your dissent meant that YOU were putting our kids in danger, that YOU might be the reason they lose their lives. Dissent was only marginally tolerated IF you pledged your "support" for our soldiers.

Of course, you needed to do no such thing. Why? Because people like you have ALWAYS supported "the troops." Who are these troops? They are our poor, our working class. Most of them enlisted because it was about the only place to get a job or receive the guarantee of a college education. You, my good friends, have ALWAYS, through your good works, your contributions, your activism, your votes, SUPPORTED these very kids who come from the other side of the tracks. You NEVER need to be defensive when it comes to your "support" for the "troops" -- you are the only ones who have ALWAYS been there for them.

It is Mr. Bush and his filthy rich cronies -- whose sons and daughters will NEVER see a day in a uniform -- they are the ones who do NOT support our troops. Our soldiers joined the military and, in doing so, offered to give THEIR LIVES for US if need be. What a tremendous gift that is -- to be willing to die so that you and I don't have to! To be willing to shed their blood so that we may be free. To serve in our place, so that WE don't have to serve. What a tremendous act of selflessness and generosity! Here they are, these 18, 19, and 20-year olds, most of whom have had to suffer under an unjust economic system that is set up NOT to benefit THEM -- these kids who have lived their first 18 years in the worst parts of town, going to the most miserable schools, living in danger and learning often to go without, watching their parents struggle to get by and then be humiliated by a system that is always looking to make life harder for them by cutting their benefits, their education, their libraries, their fire and police, their future.

And then, after this miserable treatment, these young men and women, instead of coming after US to demand a more just society, they go and join the army to DEFEND us and our way of life! It boggles the mind, doesn't it? They not only deserve our thanks, they deserve a big piece of the pie that we dine on, those of us who never have to worry about taking a bullet while we fret over which Palm Pilot to buy the nephew for Christmas.

In fact, all that these kids in the army ask for in return from us is our promise that we never send them into harm's way unless it is for the DEFENSE of our nation, to protect us from being killed by "the enemy."

And that promise, my friends, has been broken. It has been broken in the worst way imaginable. We have sent them into war NOT to defend us, not to protect us, not to spare the slaughter of innocents or allies. We have sent them to war so Bush and Company can control the second largest supply of oil in the world. We have sent them into war so that the Vice President's company can bilk the government for billions of dollars. We have sent them into war based on a lie of weapons of mass destruction and the lie that Saddam helped plan 9-11 with Osama bin Laden.

By doing all of this, Mr. Bush has proven that it is HE who does not support our troops. It is HE who has put their lives in danger, and it is HE who is responsible for the nearly 500 American kids who have now died for NO honest, decent reason whatsoever.

The letters I've received from the friends and relatives of our kids over there make it clear that they are sick of this war and they are scared to death that they may never see their loved ones again. It breaks my heart to read these letters. I wish there was something I could do. I wish there was something we all could do.

Maybe there is. As Christmas approaches (and Hanukkah begins tonight), I would like to suggest a few things each of us could do to make the holidays a bit brighter -- if not safer -- for our troops and their families back home.

1. Many families of soldiers are hurting financially, especially those families of reservists and National Guard who are gone from the full-time jobs ("just one weekend a month and we'll pay for your college education!"). You can help them by contacting the Armed Forces Emergency Relief Funds at http://www.afrtrust.org/ (ignore the rah-rah military stuff and remember that this is money that will help out these families who are living in near-poverty). Each branch has their own relief fund, and the money goes to help the soldiers and families with paying for food and rent, medical and dental expenses, personal needs when pay is delayed, and funeral expenses. You can find more ways to support the troops, from buying groceries for their families to donating your airline miles so they can get home for a visit, by going here.

2. Thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed by our bombs and indiscriminate shooting. We must help protect them and their survivors. You can do so by supporting the Quakers' drive to provide infant care kits to Iraqi hospitals—find out more here: http://www.afsc.org/iraq/relief/default.shtm. You can also help the people of Iraq by supporting the Iraqi Red Crescent Society—here’s how to contact them: http://www.ifrc.org/address/iq.asp, or you can make an online donation through the International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies by going here: http://www.ifrc.org/HELPNOW/donate/donate_iraq.asp.

3. With 130,000 American men and women currently in Iraq, every community in this country has either sent someone to fight in this war or is home to family members of someone fighting in this war. Organize care packages through your local community groups, activist groups, and churches and send them to these young men and women. The military no longer accepts packages addressed to “Any Soldier,” so you’ll have to get their names first. Figure out who you can help from your area, and send them books, CDs, games, footballs, gloves, blankets—anything that may make their extended (and extended and extended…) stay in Iraq a little brighter and more comfortable. You can also sponsor care packages to American troops through the USO: http://www.usocares.org/.

4. Want to send a soldier a free book or movie? I’ll start by making mine available for free to any soldier serving in Iraq. Just send me their name and address in Iraq (or, if they have already left Iraq, where they are now) and the first thousand emails I get at soldiers@michaelmoore.com will receive a free copy of "Dude..." or a free “Bowling…” DVD.

5. Finally, we all have to redouble our efforts to end this war and bring the troops home. That's the best gift we could give them -- get them out of harm's way ASAP and insist that the U.S. go back to the UN and have them take over the rebuilding of Iraq (with the US and Britain funding it, because, well, we have to pay for our mess). Get involved with your local peace group—you can find one near where you live by visiting United for Peace, at: http://www.unitedforpeace.org and the Vietnam Veterans Against War: http://www.vvaw.org/contact/. A large demonstration is being planned for March 20, check here for more details: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2136. To get a “Bring Them Home Now” bumper sticker or a poster for your yard, go here: http://bringthemhomenow.org/yellowribbon_graphics/index.html. Also, back only anti-war candidates for Congress and President (Kucinich, Dean, Clark, Sharpton).

I know it feels hopeless. That's how they want us to feel. Don't give up. We owe it to these kids, the troops WE SUPPORT, to get them the hell outta there and back home so they can help organize the drive to remove the war profiteers from office next November.

To all who serve in our armed forces, to their parents and spouses and loved ones, we offer to you the regrets of millions and the promise that we will right this wrong and do whatever we can to thank you for offering to risk your lives for us. That your life was put at risk for Bush's greed is a disgrace and a travesty, the likes of which I have not seen in my lifetime.

Please be safe, come home soon, and know that our thoughts and prayers are with you during this season when many of us celebrate the birth of the prince of "peace."

Yours,

Michael Moore mmflint@aol.com www.michaelmoore.com


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To: montomike
Please move to France.

or Iran.

41 posted on 12/21/2003 8:31:07 AM PST by alrea (let's go back to when liberalism meant gaining more freedom from central authority)
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To: All
BTW I swear I saw Michael Moore's twin the other day here in my town. He was just as fat and ugly as the real Michael Moore
42 posted on 12/21/2003 8:32:11 AM PST by Kaslin ("The way to dishonor a fallen soldier is to quit too early." President George W. Bush)
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To: Conservative til I die
I've received hundreds of letters from our troops in Iraq

When MM says "our troops" he's referring to the ISM and ANSWER freaks. Probably every one of these letters was written by HUMAN SHIELD WANKERS.

43 posted on 12/21/2003 8:33:09 AM PST by Alouette ("Who is for the LORD, come with me!" -- Mattisyahu ben Yohanon, father of Judah Maccabee)
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To: fhayek
Moore has exposed them to disciplinary measures by using them for his own political purposes

don't forget about the one that chunked a grenade into a tent of fewllow soldiers or maybe the priest that was working with the prisoners from taliban land.

does moore want the taliban back in power?

does he want the baathist punks to go back to killing children of the opposition?

he's an arm of the democratic party which is a division of the UN which is a paid partner of 100's of dictators killing and looting all over the world.

44 posted on 12/21/2003 8:36:17 AM PST by alrea (let's go back to when liberalism meant gaining more freedom from central authority)
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To: Conservative til I die
Wonder if these little weasels know that their BIG WEASEL is making their private comments public?
45 posted on 12/21/2003 8:37:45 AM PST by Libertina (FReepers of a feather flock together...isn't life great?)
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To: fhayek
What a turd.

Mike's been promoted?

46 posted on 12/21/2003 8:38:39 AM PST by laredo44 (liberty is not the problem)
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To: Conservative til I die
Considering Moore's proven track record of outright fabrications I wouldn't place too much stock in any of these "letters" from the troops.
47 posted on 12/21/2003 8:41:15 AM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Dick Vomer
"As we approach the holidays, I've been thinking a lot about our kids who are in the armed forces serving in Iraq. I've received -- and they are telling me something very different from what we are seeing on the evening news."

No, Michael, you have been thinking about all the money and perks you are making off the backs of these kids serving in Iraq.
48 posted on 12/21/2003 8:43:43 AM PST by freekitty
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To: tet68
It's his way of seeing how the services work, no one, NO ONE tells their commanding officer, "‘You just don't get it, do you?’ "

But... but.... they do it in the movies all the time!!

49 posted on 12/21/2003 8:44:39 AM PST by wizardoz ("Let's roll!" ........................................................ "We got him!")
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To: Conservative til I die
I don't doubt that Moore actually received some of these letters. If I was a dissatisfied, conspiracy theorizing, liberal coward stuck in Iraq, Moore is the first person I would contact.
51 posted on 12/21/2003 8:46:17 AM PST by Poser
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To: Conservative til I die
I wish Mike would go to the front lines with his camera crew. What a great documentary watching bloat-o boy blown up would make.
52 posted on 12/21/2003 8:47:07 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: Conservative til I die
I know this is an open forum and it is entirely appropriate to post this claptrap from Moore. The problem is the way it make me feel. There is a seething, an anger inside of me about these types - and those who glibly chuckle over his "wise and all-knowing" attitudes. Useful idiots.

Lando

53 posted on 12/21/2003 8:50:00 AM PST by Lando Lincoln (The Vermin had vermin)
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To: Conservative til I die
These letters prove zilch. This is why.

1. They don't have the ring of truth. There is almost no current military jargon in them whatsoever. They look like they were written by activist college kids, Tim Robbins and Jeannine Gradual.

2. Assuming they are true, they are almost to the letter written by Privates and Specialists. In a military the size of ours your going to get a lot of dumb kids. Most of them will grow out of it, although I still work with a guy who thinks Clinton is the best President of all time, and I know another who thinks that anyone who's not liberal is not a good American. These guys are the extreme minority, but there's more than enough of them to fill up columns by Mikhail Moore Dessert Please.

3.Imagine any war we've ever been in. Not everyone has been happy to go. One of my favorite books is Catch-22, and we have a copy that travels with our unit. I'm sure that large segments in any war man has ever fought has got disgruntled. That why we have NCOs and officers to keep the guys focused and pointed front towards enemy.

4. I GUARNETEE that this goldbricking jagoff has got enough hate mail from people in uniform to choke a herd of elephants. Taking out the few that are supportive and making them the centerpiece of his argument is disingenuous at best.

54 posted on 12/21/2003 8:50:11 AM PST by Steel Wolf (The Original One Man Crusading Jingoist Imperialist Capitalist Running Dog Paper Tiger himself)
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To: Conservative til I die
I found this review last night on Amazon and wep my pants laughing. I am NOT the author, but he has to be a Freeper. Where are you?

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3 of 6 people found the following review helpful:

Upbeat! Inspiring! A Genuine American Capitalist !! November 25, 2003

This film, extremely entertaining, a great work of comedic/dramatic art, is actually more valuable and noteworthy for its underlying message: Free-market capitalism is the finest system ever devised, it is driven by individual creativity/productivity, and Michael Moore is a superlative, exemplary paragon of the American Profit Motive in action.

Down and out in a town that was down and out -- Flint -- Michael Moore didn't run whining to the government for help. He didn't go begging on the streets. He didn't mew and squeal about bad luck in life. He didn't go sit in the corner with his thumb in his mouth.

Rather, Moore had an idea, then he got off his derriere and, by means of his individual drive, made it happen -- and accordingly he then reaped praise and profit for this endeavor, which catapulted him into a fabulously successful film-making career. This is the American Dream, and Michael Moore pursued it. He is now rich, he is now wealthy, because he absolutely deserves to be.

In the course of this process, Moore created value for the consumer public -- he manufactured a product which people voluntarily purchased, everyone going away happy from the transaction. No law or regulation forced anyone to buy tickets to this film (in theaters) or to purchase the DVD: Free Trade At Its Purest.

Moore also created work for others. He paid technical folks and others to work for him, to produce this film. He now owns/runs a successful business in this field, having gone on to the series "TV Nation" and "Bowling for Columbine." He achieved business and profit growth, the hallmarks of capitalism -- the only system ever devised which produces abundance.

Michael Moore is a monument to private-sector productivity, the literal economic fuel for everything we do and/or have. Moore is a GREAT capitalist, absolutely TERRIFIC in the pursuit of profits, and we should all hope that he merely gets richer and richer and richer -- because that will mean he has made other people happy, without being any sort of burden at all to society or taxpayers.






55 posted on 12/21/2003 8:50:36 AM PST by Blaine Fabin
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To: Conservative til I die
I don't know why anything from MichaelMoore.com is linked to FR. If you go to the dump, you're going to find trash.
56 posted on 12/21/2003 8:57:20 AM PST by squidly (Although prepared for martyrdom, I prefer that it be postponed.)
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To: Conservative til I die
you told me you loved me

so i don't understand

why promises are snapped in two

and words are made to bend

(the bigger, the better)

some stolen from japan

collected from around the world,

they'll catch you if they can

(chorus)

lies lies lies yeah

lies lies lies yeah

lies lies lies yeah

do i have to catch you out

to know what's on your mind

well, cleopatra died for egypt,

what a waste of time

white ones and red ones

and some you can't disguise

twisted truth and half the news

can't hide it in your eyes

(REPEAT CHORUS)

you say you'll try harder

but i think it's just too late

well, the car is revving in the drive,

and i'm not the sort to wait

the bigger, the better

some nicked from old saigon

collected from around the world

love lies on and an and on and on and on and

lies lies lies yeah (they're gonna get you)

lies lies lies yeah (they won't forget you)

lies lies lies yeah (they're gonna get you)

lies lies lies yeah

oh you know i know

(REPEAT CHORUS)

oh you know i know

(REPEAT CHORUS)

Lies Lies Lies
Thompson Twins, 1984?

57 posted on 12/21/2003 8:58:37 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: pgobrien

Since President Bush supports proscriptions on dangerous drugs, therefore it's supposedly fair play to post liberal screeds from the likes of Michael Moore, who himself is probably an ardent pro-drug-legalizer. As they say: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

58 posted on 12/21/2003 8:59:17 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Conservative til I die
Moore is a Political Pornographer
59 posted on 12/21/2003 8:59:18 AM PST by Helms (Liberalism is a faux compassion that condescends at best and subjugates at worse)
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To: squidly

It's all about the liberal crusade against the so-called WOD. See #58.

60 posted on 12/21/2003 9:01:00 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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