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Schiavo Is Moved Into New Facility, Trys To Speak To Father -
Unofficial Confessing Movement ^ | 18 Dec 03 | David Sommer

Posted on 12/20/2003 7:38:11 PM PST by xzins

CLEARWATER - Terri Schiavo has been moved from a hospice to an assisted living facility, but the move does not signal a change of heart by her husband, who insists his wife would not want to be kept alive with a feeding tube. The move, from Hospice of the Suncoast in Pinellas Park to Park Place of Clearwater, was made late Tuesday or early Wednesday because the Pinellas Park facility is about to undergo renovations, said George Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo.

Schiavo is locked in a series of court battles with his in-laws, Bob and Mary Schindler, over their daughter's fate. The Schindlers dispute their son-in-law's contention - supported by most examining physicians - that his wife is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope of improvement.

Wednesday, Bob Schindler and his son, Bobby, said Terri Schiavo was exceptionally expressive during a visit at her new home.

``We had a really good session today. She talks to me, and she is saying something,'' the senior Schindler said.

``She seemed to be really reacting to my dad today,'' Bobby Schindler said. ``Actually, it's heartbreaking. She clearly was trying to communicate with my dad, but they won't give her speech therapy.''

That therapy is but one contested issue in a 5 1/2-year court battle that is being waged in two courts almost simultaneously.

News of Terri Schiavo's move came after two hearings Wednesday.

Circuit Judge George Greer again was asked to transfer the original probate and guardianship case to another judge. Greer did not issue a ruling.

It was Greer who, after a January 2000 nonjury trial, found testimony from Michael Schiavo and his relatives showed Terri Schiavo made statements before her illness indicating she would not want to be kept alive with a feeding tube.

The 40-year-old St. Petersburg woman suffered brain damage when her heart failed in January 1990. Doctors have said a potassium deficiency - possibly due to an eating disorder - might have caused her heart to stop, cutting off oxygen to her brain.

Gov. Jeb Bush intervened in October after the feeding tube had been removed for six days on court orders intended to allow her to die. Bush ordered the tube reinserted based on powers granted to him by legislation dubbed ``Terri's Law.''

Michael Schiavo immediately filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the law.

At a second hearing Wednesday, Circuit Judge Douglas Baird postponed until next week a scheduled showdown over whether he should decide the constitutionality of Terri's Law quickly or allow Bush to reopen the issue of Terri Schiavo's wishes.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nocerebralcortex; schiavo; shiavo; speech; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; therapy
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1 posted on 12/20/2003 7:38:12 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins; floriduh voter; cyn; Pegita; pc93; nickcarraway
Fight for Terri's life....... ping
2 posted on 12/20/2003 7:41:30 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: sweetliberty
you see this? sigh
3 posted on 12/20/2003 7:43:01 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Coleus; cgk
*Terri Schiavo Ping*
4 posted on 12/20/2003 7:49:32 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: xzins
God's blessing on Terri Schiavo and her family. May He soften the stony hearts of these judges.
5 posted on 12/20/2003 7:51:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: xzins
I vaguely recall something. Someone told Terri they were going to kill her, and she reacted in horror, got visibly agitated. Does anybody know what I'm remembering, or am I just having a false memory?

Wouldn't that prove that she doesn't want to die?

6 posted on 12/20/2003 7:54:33 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I don't recall that, but someone else might know a source.
7 posted on 12/20/2003 7:55:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Yeah, I got that from Glenn Beck.
8 posted on 12/20/2003 8:00:46 PM PST by meanie monster
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I vaguely recall something. Someone told Terri they were going to kill her, and she reacted in horror, got visibly agitated. Does anybody know what I'm remembering, or am I just having a false memory?

If I remember correctly, it was a doctor who told her over the phone. He, apparently, was secretly treating her over the phone. I think he told her to get up and start moving because "they" were going to kill her (remove the tube).

Maybe someone else remembers more?

9 posted on 12/20/2003 8:01:27 PM PST by AnimalLover
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To: xzins
bump
10 posted on 12/20/2003 8:02:23 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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11 posted on 12/20/2003 8:03:58 PM PST by Coleus (God is Pro-Life & Straight & gave us an innate predisposition for protection and self preservation)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I remember reading about that. Her parents were trying some kind of alternative therapy by phone, and the therapist told her that "they" were trying to kill her if she couldn't speak (my memory isn't perfect here) and she visibly reacted and (IIRC) tried to get out of her bed or wheelchair. Do a search on Terry and you'll get a lot of threads about her, with that info somewhere.
12 posted on 12/20/2003 8:04:09 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: xzins; farmfriend; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; ...
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13 posted on 12/20/2003 8:04:15 PM PST by Coleus (God is Pro-Life & Straight & gave us an innate predisposition for protection and self preservation)
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To: xzins
Sadly, Felos and a few on FR would read the article and conclude that this is about a 'talking carrot' ... or make that 'babbling carrot'. There are none so blind as they who will not see.
14 posted on 12/20/2003 8:07:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: xzins
May the Lord keep Terri SCHINDLER safe from her evil husband.
15 posted on 12/20/2003 8:10:13 PM PST by Killborn (I'd rather have Big Bizniz than Big Guvmint.)
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To: ntnychik
A Terry ping.
16 posted on 12/20/2003 8:12:27 PM PST by potlatch (Whenever I feel 'blue', I start breathing again.)
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To: floriduh voter
Save Terri PING!!

God bless Terri and her family. May this Christmas be the last for turmoil and efforts to steal away Terri's life from God's hands. Prayers for Terri ..

17 posted on 12/20/2003 8:17:08 PM PST by STARWISE (The power of prayer is miraculous. Please remember those in need..pray for our brave military.)
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To: little jeremiah; AnimalLover; meanie monster; xzins
That's proof, then, that she doesn't want her life to be terminated.

There's going to be a new trial. Maybe her lawyer could introduce that into the proceedings.

I really wish the Schindlers would consider getting a new lawyer.

Thanks, FReepers, for confirming my hazy recollection.

18 posted on 12/20/2003 8:22:46 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: potlatch
There they go again with that potassium deficiency/eating disorder thing. Was there ever any evidence of either? Doesn't sound like the family buys this theory. The press keeps hammering the same old right to die arguments. The woman's 40, probably not even at half her normal life span, and ISN'T DYING, unless they let Mike too close to her.
19 posted on 12/20/2003 8:24:58 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; xzins; AnimalLover
Yes, it was a doc over the phone and the family was video taping the event. That in itself is inconclusive w/o other info.

What gives a clear indication that she doesn't want the tubes removed is the fact that she can comprehend her circumstances and did in fact procede to follow the docs instructions during her exams. There's a video of part of an exam given by an Ohio neurologist where she follows orders to track a balloon. The doc acknowledges she followed it on tape, but then testified she was totally unresponsive in court. The doc lied about her capacity to understand and follow instructions. That was to support the consenus BS that she is in a PVS. She is not. The PVS diagnosis just makes it easy to justify offing her.

If she wanted the tubes removed she certainly wouldn't indicate she was happy in the presence of her family and follow the docs orders during the exam.

It should also be noted that more than a few judges have refused to allow patients that left written orders regarding life support measures to change their minds later after they have, or are about to become disconnected.

20 posted on 12/20/2003 8:37:51 PM PST by spunkets
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