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State courts harmed by Roy Moore's ego
Mobile Register ^ | 12/17/03

Posted on 12/20/2003 4:16:19 PM PST by RJCogburn

FORMER CHIEF Justice Roy Moore proves more and more self-centered with each passing day as he forces the state's judicial system further into turmoil.

Mr. Moore should have the grace to accept his removal from the state Supreme Court, and to carry on his political fight through other means.

Meanwhile, as judges recuse themselves from the Moore case as if they were self-propelled dominoes, the farce must end somewhere. Surely seven judges can be found who can impartially consider the slam-dunk case that is Mr. Moore's baseless appeal.

First, let it again be clear that Roy Moore's removal and his appeal thereof have nothing to do with whether the Ten Commandments can rightly be displayed in a courtroom.

The current issue is one of judicial ethics, pure and simple, and Mr. Moore runs afoul of those ethics with every new action. It was he who failed to properly appeal a federal court order, he who violated that order in a spectacularly defiant manner, he who thumbed his nose at Alabama's duly created system of investigating and punishing alleged violations of the Canons of Judicial Ethics.

Mr. Moore's former Supreme Court colleagues, as conservative a group as there is in this country, unanimously determined that he was wrong to disobey the federal court. A duly chosen investigative body unanimously charged him with the ethical violations. A unanimous Court of the Judiciary removed him from office.

And all this was in the face of strong public support for Mr. Moore's expressed cause of displaying the Ten Commandments. What possible motive, aside from clear and unambiguous duty, could lead so many eminent jurists to ignore public sentiment and, without a single dissenting voice, determine that Mr. Moore had strayed?

By appealing his removal, he quite deliberately makes a mockery of the state's judicial system.

Roy Moore knew full well that his eight former colleagues, as actors in the controversy, would probably be forced to recuse themselves from his appeal. He knew, furthermore, that drawing the names of retired judges from a hat would make the whole process appear farcical.

And now he knows that for every new judge forced into recusal, he further delegitimizes -- not by law or ethics, but by public relations -- the entire process.

Is it any wonder, then, that some of the would-be judges of this appeal seem to be doing contortions in order to find an excuse not to involve themselves? Retired civil appeals judge William E. Robertson, for instance, says the mere fact that he attended Mr. Moore's ethics trial as an observer disqualifies him from the appeal.

Enough is enough. Roy Moore's ego has become far too large. Saving his own job isn't worth the cost of undermining the people's faith in their own constitutional, representative government.

Let Mr. Moore go on a highly paid speaking tour. Let him carry his message far and wide. Let him even run for another judgeship.

But Roy Moore should spare his fellow Alabamians from another circus trial that will accomplish neither his reinstatement as chief justice nor any further enlightenment or other benefit to the public.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: byebyeegoboy; catholiclist; exjudgemoore; formerjudge; judgemoore; oligarchy; roymoore; ruleoflaw
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Roy Moore's ego has become far too large

Too large? He said he would make an announcement that might change the direction of the country and it turned out he was proposing legislation.

Hardly a direction changing announcement, but clearly a nutcase.

1 posted on 12/20/2003 4:16:19 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
Let Mr. Moore go on a highly paid speaking tour. Let him carry his message far and wide. Let him even run for another judgeship.

Judgeship? His Excellency, Roy Moore, is running for governor of Alabama. He would never lower himself to occupy the same judicial bench as those who ran him out of town.

It's so obvious what Moore is up to, but his defenders think he's doing God's work, even though he's spit in the face of the Alabama judicial system, and continues to.

2 posted on 12/20/2003 4:23:32 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: RJCogburn
I think this belongs at DU.
3 posted on 12/20/2003 4:25:07 PM PST by Revel
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To: lugsoul; Catspaw
Moore continues to make a fool of himself.
4 posted on 12/20/2003 4:25:52 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Revel
I think this belongs at DU.

Why? Eight conservative Supreme Court justices in Alabama stripped Moore of his office. They were upholding the law, something the grandstanding Moore cares nothing about.

No. This belongs right here, on this conservative website.

Moore's argument about the 10 Commandments does not give him the right to disobey orders from a Federal Appeals Court.

5 posted on 12/20/2003 4:28:37 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: RJCogburn
You turn into a socialist and I miss it?
6 posted on 12/20/2003 4:28:57 PM PST by thoughtomator (The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
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To: RJCogburn
, he quite deliberately makes a mockery of the state's judicial system.


Of course the judicial system has nothing to do with it, noooo.
7 posted on 12/20/2003 4:29:33 PM PST by tet68
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To: sinkspur
You have heard all of the arguments before. The court decision was illegal. A federal court (I believe the 3rd circuit) ruled the exact opposite on an identical case down in Texas. That court followed the law. It is Judical tryanny that cannot be allowed to stand.

I also find it rather strange that Alabama law says that Judge moore can only be impeached by the state senate. No one has explained that one to me yet. But that is another issue.
8 posted on 12/20/2003 4:34:16 PM PST by Revel
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To: thoughtomator; RJCogburn
You turn into a socialist and I miss it?

OUCH!

9 posted on 12/20/2003 4:37:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Revel
The court decision was illegal.

Then take it to the Supreme Court. But to refuse to follow a directive of a federal court is also illegal, and allowed for Moore to be booted.

I also find it rather strange that Alabama law says that Judge moore can only be impeached by the state senate.

Apparently not. He violated judicial ethics, and his fellow justices could remove him. He's not even contesting that they had authority to do so, only that they shouldn't have.

10 posted on 12/20/2003 4:40:00 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: RJCogburn
INTREP - They just don't get it...he is engaged in a monumental effort to defend the First Amendment and the rule of law in this country. If those whose own worldviews and mind-sets attribute to him self-centeredness, so be it, but I doubt that is his motivation at all.
11 posted on 12/20/2003 4:42:06 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: sinkspur
What exactly are these "judicial ethics" you keep referring to?
12 posted on 12/20/2003 4:42:37 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: sinkspur
"conservative Supreme Court justices"

This is also questionable to me.... What part of Congress shall make no law, do they not hear?

13 posted on 12/20/2003 4:45:10 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: LiteKeeper
Bump...for Judge Moore and those who support him.
14 posted on 12/20/2003 4:45:28 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: LiteKeeper
They just don't get it...he is engaged in a monumental effort to defend the First Amendment and the rule of law in this country.

No he's not. If he was, he would have come down to Texas and sought guidance as to how to display the 10 Commandments so that it would pass judicial muster.

But then, he wouldn't be in the news, would he? He'd be just another judge who subjected his personal preferences to the law.

This is about Roy Moore, and his personal political advancement.

He WILL run for governor, which will make my case.

15 posted on 12/20/2003 4:46:46 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
What exactly are these "judicial ethics" you keep referring to?

Supreme Court Chief Justices in Alabama are not allowed to disobey decisions from Federal Appeals' Courts.

If they do, they can be removed, as Moore was.

16 posted on 12/20/2003 4:48:11 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
So then what part of 'Congress shall make no law..."
do the Federal Appeals' court not hear?
17 posted on 12/20/2003 4:52:18 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: sinkspur
"Then take it to the Supreme Court. But to refuse to follow a directive of a federal court is also illegal, and allowed for Moore to be booted."

He did. And they refused to take it. Based on the most recent USSC descisions based on international law and legislation from the bench...Then I would avoid them all together. All but a couple of them are worse justices then the 9th circuit or the florida SC. A good way to take this country to hell is to take cases to the USSC. They will be more than willing to hear the Texas case. You can bet on that.
18 posted on 12/20/2003 4:56:23 PM PST by Revel
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To: No More Gore Anymore
So then what part of 'Congress shall make no law..." do the Federal Appeals' court not hear?

Ask them. Also, ask the Supreme Court, as it refused to hear Moore's appeal.

The issue of the 10 Commandments and displaying them is before the Supreme Court right now.

19 posted on 12/20/2003 4:57:03 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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