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Rush Limbaugh: Another Terror Strike Won't Help Democrats
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | Dec. 19, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 12/19/2003 7:47:39 PM PST by FairOpinion

On Friday, ABC News reported, "U.S. intelligence has received information about a credible and imminent threat to New York City." There were no details, nor was the terror alert raised. This story put me in mind of the theory that Al-Qaeda could ramp it up close to the 2004 election, hoping to show Bush as a failure and thus propel Howard Dean into the White House. No question that the terrorists would prefer Dean, but there's another side to this that they can scarcely conceive.

The full breadth and scope of American power has barely been tapped in this war. I'm going to tell you right now, if these people, al-Qaeda or whoever try another 9/11-scale attack, the world is going to be a very different place. We are prosecuting this war in the traditional, civilized American way right now. We're doing it with conventional weapons and with as much cooperation and consultation as we can internationally. If it happens again, you are going to be amazed.

This mighty nation is going to unleash its full strength. Howard Dean and the rest of the Democrats can run around and say whatever they want if that awful time comes. I don't care. If this country is attacked and thus forced to unleash the full scope if its weaponry, the people that said they would never do anything about it and who played politics with the issue by delaying a vote on the Homeland Security Department's creation and such, are not going to stand a prayer at the polls. The president who's trying to stop this, who's the only president in 12 years to seriously engage this threat of radical Islamofascists, will be reelected in a landslide.

Attack Will Be No-Win SItuation for Dean or Any Democrat

If these terrorists try something again, I don't care if it's October next year, you just wait and see what kind of response there will be. I don't think most Americans have any idea of the full scope of American power, as evidenced by their misconception that we "need" France and Germany when those people would literally take hours to put a single fighter in the air. (And even that would be obsolete.) We haven't even begun to project our strength. We are reining ourselves in and tempering what we do for a host of reasons.

I don't mean to be redundant, but I'll say it one more time: If a 9/11-scale atrocity happens again, Democrats may as well concede right then and there. They'll raise Cain about it and do whatever they can, but there will be nothing in the record that any Democrat can call on to say he would have acted differently to stop it. Most Democrats from Wesley Clark to John Kerry are ruing military force, folks. They want to subordinate America to the UN when everybody knows we can't depend on those weak-kneed thugs and appeasers.

Democrats will not be able to point to a track record of saying what they would have done better because they won't do anything. Howard Dean has said he thinks we can reach an understanding with these people and that we should just show them we don't mean them any harm. Some of you might think that Dean has opening with that. I don't think so at all.

I think that if the Democrats had a prayer with their policy of appeasement, that they'd already be leading in the polls and Bush wouldn't stand a chance. They've been out there talking about this for 2 1/2 years, ever since 9/11. It didn't take them long to break with Bush. They went out there and gave lip service to the war on terror, but if you listen to what they say when they're running for high office, they do it exactly different: "Bush doesn't know what he's doing! Bush is incompetent!"

Now, you might think, "Okay, so terrorists launch again and it proves what the Democrats are saying." Again: the American people are not going to want to sit around and do nothing if it happens a second time, and they aren't going to want to sit around and let the United Nations handle it or to okay our self-defense. The president, who's been dealing with it and who has a track record of success to show for it, is going to be standing very tall if something like this happens again - not Howard Dean. I guarantee you not Howard Dean. You can engage in wishful thinking or doom-and-gloom thinking all you want out there, but it just won't be the case.


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To: Orangedog
We just need the will again.
41 posted on 12/19/2003 9:19:54 PM PST by SAMWolf (Support your local medical examiner: die strangely!)
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To: Orangedog
Part of me is sorry feeling this way, but internment camps made a heck of a lot of sense to me after 9/11. I think America would have went along with it too if it had been done immediately following 9/11. To many of us (me) get cold feet when these punks start screaming about their "rights." We are more worried about hurting someones feelings than making our borders safe.

I just got back from ROTK so I'm a little fired up tonight. BRING IT ON!!!!!!
42 posted on 12/19/2003 9:29:51 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: Orangedog
I wonder if Truman could have mustered the courage to follow through on a threat like that again.
43 posted on 12/19/2003 9:33:36 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: Tacis
You are right, it will not be a 9/11 type attack. They know it makes ALL of us mad. Too big, too flashy.

"Little" attacks are how we are going to get hit again. Americans will freak if a water supply is poisoned here, a pipe bomb goes off there. Day after day, week after week. All in different areas of the country.

I actually think it will be sniper type attacks like in Ohio and Washington. That way they will also accomplish the task of getting the government to ban/outlaw guns to prevent "other such atrocities".

Remember. One of the things that has scared all invaders, insurgent types, and the democratic party is how heavily armed we are compared to the rest of the world. We are more open than the rest of the world yet our ratio of small type attacks is far less than the rest of the world.

Just my thoughts.
44 posted on 12/19/2003 9:37:07 PM PST by JSteff
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To: Brad Cloven
We need to do those things sooner or later.
45 posted on 12/19/2003 9:41:25 PM PST by JSteff
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To: JSteff
I remember just post 9/11, I believed all of those who said that Islam was a religion of peace that had been hijacked by terrorists, and I kept waiting for all of those moderate muslims to come out and defend America, and all "we" stood for. Instead all I heard were criticisms, and a total blame-America attitude that prevailed among all members of this religion of peace. I have not heard a single unqualified patriotic muslim, ever. I say deport them all, lock, stock and at the end of a barrel, if necessary.
46 posted on 12/19/2003 9:49:26 PM PST by jim35
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To: Orangedog
"Dubya needs to get that point across."

Who says he didn't?
47 posted on 12/19/2003 9:51:42 PM PST by JSteff
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To: JSteff
I actually think it will be sniper type attacks like in Ohio and Washington.

In most areas of this country outside the big cities, we will snipe back, and far more accurately.

48 posted on 12/19/2003 9:52:26 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Please add me to your Rush Limbaugh "Ping List". Thanks.

ADE
49 posted on 12/19/2003 9:55:15 PM PST by Arch-Conservative
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Who do you want to nuke? What nation is responsible for the acts of terrorist groups?

Are you prepared for some surprises here by other nations?Surely, other governments have contingincy surprises for us-"just in case". What are you going to do if its a "stolen Russian nuke set off by some terrorists? You want to go after Russia? They still have about 10,000 left.

We won't be following your wishes without a nuke being used against us.
50 posted on 12/19/2003 9:55:50 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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To: bethelgrad
I wonder if Truman could have mustered the courage to follow through on a threat like that again.

I really don't know. At first glance, it would seem that if he actually had the will to follow through on that threat, he would have made it. It would have been one hell of an embarrassment if his bluff was called and he didn't nuke them, even if all of that would have been discussed behind closed doors with the Chinese.

51 posted on 12/19/2003 9:56:37 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: GeronL
Lunev Advised Bush on Drawing Up Nuclear Plans

Monday, March 11, 2002

The recent "leak" of a classified Pentagon report that the U.S. military recently has drawn up plans to use nuclear weapons against seven nations was no accident.

The Pentagon report identifies China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria as nuclear targets, and directs military planners to begin preparing nuclear strike plans in case of a nuclear, biological or chemical weapons attack on the U.S. or "in the event of surprising military developments."

U.S. officials were quick to confirm the report, which no doubt sent a serious signal to rogue states about what will happen if the U.S. is hit with a nuclear device.

Lunev, the highest-ranking military spy ever to defect from Russia, warned the White House that the terrorist threat would not abate: "These groups clearly have received sufficient funds, supplies, support and hospitality from rogue nations – all of whom have close ties to Russia's military and intelligence agencies."

Lunev continued ominously: "... we are in a full-blown war, the stakes are high for each side. No one can rule out that these terrorists may have biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. No one can rule out their use. International terrorism currently has enough power to challenge the West and, using weapons of mass destruction, perhaps hit us with a devastating blow."

Lunev then gave advice that has now been heeded by the Bush administration: "My suggestion is that the U.S. must warn rogue states, i.e., Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya, that if these groups use a weapon of mass destruction on an American city, the U.S. military will not do any investigations, there will be no delay – the U.S. will use similar weapons on their population centers and military targets."

52 posted on 12/19/2003 10:15:41 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Orangedog
"Hard to forget that time. For a few weeks we stopped being Republicans and Democrats, or divided by the usual hyphenated descriptions that divided us. I'm still moved by the clips of congress singing God Bless America on the Capitol steps. I think the terrorists were taught a lesson after 9/11...and not just the one we dished out in Ashcanistan...that when they attack us, they unite us. "

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An excellent editorial by Leonard Pitts of the Miami Herald on Sept 12, 2001:

We'll go forward from this moment. (Original Title, but also referred to with the title "The Steel in Us")

We'll go forward from this moment. It's my job to have something to say.

They pay me to provide words that help make sense of
that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock
when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say,
the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author
of this suffering.

You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard.
What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's
attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us?

What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that
you failed.

Did you want us to respect your cause? You just
damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our
resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together.

Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and
quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political
and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes,
capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural
minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a
cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of
trinkets
and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a
certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though --
peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to
do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith,
believers in a just and loving God.

Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all
of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are
strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals.

IN PAIN. Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are
in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you
did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special
effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a
Tom Clancy novel.

Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final
death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of
terrorism in the history of the United States and probably, the history of
the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before.

But there's a gulf of difference between making us
bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its
bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone
brought us such abrupt and monumental pain.

When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When
provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any
cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. I tell you this without
fear
of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know
reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future.

In the days to come, there will be recrimination and
accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to
happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will
be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll
go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad.

But determined, too. Unimaginably determined.

THE STEEL IN US. You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent.
That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know
us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans
we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise
in defense of all that we cherish.

So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that
maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred.

If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message
in exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable
of. You don't know what you just started.

But you're about to learn.

http://www.webpagebydesign.com/passthison/the_steel_in_us.php

53 posted on 12/19/2003 10:24:26 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Nick Danger
immortal being says "You don't understand. I mean I killed all of them. Everywhere."

==

I remember that one. You are right -- there will be unimaginable resolve to kill everyone remotely related to the attacks immediately.
54 posted on 12/19/2003 10:25:59 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Finalapproach29er
We'll nuke whoever we have to and make the point you don't mess with us.
55 posted on 12/19/2003 10:34:56 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ConservativeMan55
Please put me on your Rush ping list. Thanks.
56 posted on 12/19/2003 10:44:39 PM PST by CAR913 (Communism kills)
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To: FairOpinion
They'll raise Cain about it and do whatever they can, but there will be nothing in the record that any Democrat can call on to say he would have acted differently to stop it.

Rush, they will find a way. Just as you say there will always be liberals, you know there will always be clever-seeming liberals with big mouths. They will find one tiny thing to go on about and they will cling to it. However the attack occurs, there will be a chink in our armor, obviously, and liberals will play it up ad infinitum. Bush should have known. Or, Bush DID know. Either way. Oppositionality is what they do best.

But you are right; they would never have gone to root terrorists out from their source nor do they seriously think terrorist attacks should be met with punishment. Like the parent who won't ground the child because "he might fuss," they are fully incompetent to take charge.

And I said you were hot on another thread.

57 posted on 12/19/2003 11:37:17 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Momar Qhadafi evidently got the hint.

I really don't think he liked the looks of Saddam's spider hole.

58 posted on 12/19/2003 11:38:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Nick Danger
Anybody remember that Star Trek TNG episode in which an immortal, omnipotent being is confessing to having killed the creatures that attacked his planet, where he was enjoying life with his human wife? Picard says it's understandable that he'd be angry, and the immortal being says "You don't understand. I mean I killed all of them. Everywhere." That's the mood people will be in.

I remember that one. The immortal was played by John Anderson, I think (I just remembered it was the same name as the third party Maine candidate from 1980). That was chilling... he had a very deep, sonorous voice, IIRC.

59 posted on 12/19/2003 11:45:41 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Orangedog
Interesting coincidence - I just looked up Roger Ebert's review of "Deterrence":

http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2000/03/031702.html

And the President's National Security Advisor was played by Sheryl Lee Ralph (of Dreamgirls on Broadway). Life imitates art, or the director already knew that Condi Rice was a star. Just kind of coincidental that the NSA would be a black woman (and beautiful, too!).

I'm looking forward to renting this one - I'd never heard of it.
60 posted on 12/19/2003 11:51:09 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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