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I agree with you.

It seems to me that most of these new calibers are attemtping to do what the .45 ACP has done for years. First it was the 9mm's; pushing them faster and faster.

Then we got .357 Sig. Let's face it, that one was kind of a flop. Nice round, but the .45 made an even bigger hole, and you didn't have to spend 3 bucks a round for factory ammo.

Then we got .40 S & W. Hell, the company admitted they were trying to get .45 ACP results in a smaller package for the LE market.

Now this one comes on the market. An attempt to be a .45 in a shorter cartridge. Why bother?

I guess I'm getting a bit cranky in middle age, but it seems to me that Glock could have solved this problem by making a single stack built around their already well received action. But, what the hell do I know.

Hey, let me know if that Gun Of The Month club you're in needs any new members. I may bitch a bit, but I'm darned appreciative of finding things into my hands to play with.

Merry Christmas,

Go peek at the new Granite series 1911A1 that SIG is just releasing. All 1911A1 parts from wilson etc etc on a SIG product.....8 round Wilson rogers mags, parts and goodies interchangeable with Colt, Kimber, SA, Clones.........My order is in with my local ~~gunrunner~~ FFL dealer. Looks promising.

Merry Xmas to you also Lurker. You stay safe and get a little trigger time if ya get some free days this week.

My only interest in the Glock .45 GAP was as a possible 17-sized Glock platform to be converted to .45 ACP. The prototypes of the G 37 were said to be built on the G 17/22 frame and (I assumed) had an upper end built accordingly. Now I see that the production model actually has a slide of about the same external dimensions as the G 21. From the photos it looks like the barrel shroud and the ejection port are shorter than the same in the G 21. They probably did this so no one could convert the damn thing to shoot a "real" .45 round, the ACP.

I wonder if I can swap my G 21 upper end to the G 37? Then there's the magazine problem. Although I can insert 180 grain flatpoint .45 ACP's into my G 22 mag (which I had originally assumed would have the same length/width dimensions as the "new" G 37 mag), if the new mag is unique in its dimensions, then the whole conversion project falls apart, or in the extreme, becomes so expensive that I might as well buy an H and K USP or a Sig P220. ( I have a number of 1911's) My personal opinion is that, in its current form, this thing will be of interest only to die-hard Glock fans and/or "real" gun nuts (like myself, but I have yet to get my hands on this model, so will reserve judgment). The .45 Kurz (that's my name for it)is almost as fat as it is long; and we know from bitter experience that such rounds generally have feed/function problems, some so severe that they produce what is known as "Phase III" malfunctions, i.e., those that cannot be cleared without the use of tools. I think Glock management was ill-advised to go ahead with this project, especially since they already had the nice double stack G 30 and its companion, the single stack G 36 both in .45 ACP.