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Vanity: Does ANYBODY actually celebrate Kwanzaa?

Posted on 12/19/2003 12:07:23 AM PST by Junior_G

Politically correct lefties like to mention Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa all in the same breath, implying that they are equally legitimate holiday celebrations enjoyed by different groups. Christmas and Hanukkah both have rich histories to back them up, and millions of people celebrate these holidays worldwide; but does anybody actually celebrate Kwanzaa? Liberals are absolutely in love with the concept of Kwanzaa as the Black Americans' alternative to Christmas; but do any Black Americans actually celebrate it?
Kwanzaa is a holiday that was invented by a left-wing activist college professor in 1966 as a holiday for Black Americans to celebrate African culture and practice the tenets of socialism. How many black families were actually willing to abandon their Christmas traditions in favor of this new holiday, made up willy-nilly by a radical campus nutjob? If anybody on this forum has ever actually met somebody that celebrates this holiday, I'd love to hear about it. I have a sneaking suspicion that next to nobody celebrates it.
If you'll recall, some number of years ago a Texaco executive was canned after being recorded making a disparaging comment about Kwanzaa. Today, to make a joke about Kwanzaa is considered no better than delivering a racial slur; but shouldn't bogus socialist holidays----as a general rule----be soundly ridiculed? I'm curious what people's thoughts are on this one...particularly black contributors to this forum. Liberals act like all black people celebrate Kwanzaa, but all the black people I know celebrate Christmas.


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1 posted on 12/19/2003 12:07:24 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: mhking
Please ping the black conservative list.
2 posted on 12/19/2003 12:09:01 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Junior_G
I celebrate Christmas and Freeper Day.
3 posted on 12/19/2003 12:10:07 AM PST by GeronL (Saddam is out of the hole and into the quagmire!)
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To: Junior_G; kattracks; JohnHuang2; Travis McGee; John Robinson; Sabertooth
You do celebrate FReeper Day don't you?? =o)

OK OK.... there SHOULD be a FReeper Day!

4 posted on 12/19/2003 12:12:10 AM PST by GeronL (Saddam is out of the hole and into the quagmire!)
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To: GeronL
Freeper Day? I need to pay better attention----I haven't heard of that one. It would complement the Christmas festivities well though, I'm sure!
5 posted on 12/19/2003 12:12:24 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G
Ah, ok.
6 posted on 12/19/2003 12:12:41 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G
I'm into Festivus, personally. Each year, around this time, during the Airing of the Grievances, we bitch about Kwanzaa.
7 posted on 12/19/2003 12:14:23 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Junior_G
haha, I gotcha... but really, we need a FREEPER DAY!
8 posted on 12/19/2003 12:14:52 AM PST by GeronL (Saddam is out of the hole and into the quagmire!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
PING! LOL
9 posted on 12/19/2003 12:17:03 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Junior_G
That's a good question. I don't know anyone who celebrates it; does anyone here or know someone who does?
10 posted on 12/19/2003 12:17:57 AM PST by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
There's someone here, or who used to be here anyway, mafree, who celebrated Kwanzaa and used to holler at all the rest of us, for putting it down factually.
11 posted on 12/19/2003 12:20:05 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
Here's a brief summary of Kwanzaa:

Maulana Karenga, now chairman of the black studies department at California State University in Long Beach, created Kwanzaa in 1966. This cultural, non-religious celebration revolves around the Nguzo Saba ("seven principles" in Swahili), designed to promote strength and unity in black families and communities. African Americans celebrate the holiday over seven days between Christmas and New Year's Day, with each day dedicated to one of these principles: Umoja (unity) Kujichagulia (self-determination) Ujima (collective work and responsibility) Ujamaa (cooperative economics) Nia (purpose) Kuumba (creativity) Imani (faith)

12 posted on 12/19/2003 12:20:36 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: Hank Rearden
I'm into Festivus, personally.

Damn, you stole my line! A FESTIUVS FOR THE RESTOFUS!

13 posted on 12/19/2003 12:21:46 AM PST by ILBBACH (God did Bless us...every one!)
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To: nopardons
Ok, so mafree is one. That's more than I expected. I've surfed around and one internet site estimated that there are millions of people that celebrate it. I find that hard to believe, primarily since the holiday is so young.
14 posted on 12/19/2003 12:23:17 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: ILBBACH
Damn, you stole my line! A FESTIUVS FOR THE RESTOFUS!

Don't you mean FESTIUVS FOR THE RESTIUVS?
15 posted on 12/19/2003 12:24:42 AM PST by Arkinsaw (What LSU game? Huh? No idea what you are talking about.)
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To: Junior_G
Personally I'm really in favor of Kwanzaa. It keeps trash like the Clintons out of *MY* Christmas holiday season.
16 posted on 12/19/2003 12:25:57 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Junior_G
I doubt Kwaanza is widely celebrated nor will it ever be. But this won't stop the major media from hyping it. I'll bet the dopey morning shows (Katey Couric , Diane Sawyer) showcase this misfit holiday invented by a misfit nutcase, Ron Karenga.
17 posted on 12/19/2003 12:26:26 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Junior_G
Matunda ya kwanza!
18 posted on 12/19/2003 12:26:58 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Junior_G
I know well and am friends of a number of blacks. Not a one of them celebrates Kwanzaa. As I stated, mafree, who may or may not still be a FREEPER, is the only person I know ( and I don't know her personally ), who does.

Millions ? I doubt that is a valid/true figure. :-)

19 posted on 12/19/2003 12:27:33 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Junior_G
Very few people actually celebrate Kwanzaa. Most black americans look forward to sharing Christmas with family. If however, Kwanzaa survives for another 100 years, and expands to include something deeper in its meaning, then it might be on the same level as Christmas, but will probably still only be celebrated by a limited number of people. Hmmm, in a hundred years, I wonder who will consider themselves black? How will "black" people define themselves? Will it be skin color/eye type/hair type -- I doubt it, pretty much eliminated that barrier during slavery 300 years ago. I wonder what the binding value set will be...
20 posted on 12/19/2003 12:27:38 AM PST by Clock King
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