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1 posted on 12/18/2003 12:51:56 PM PST by missyme
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"I'm just so verklempted! Speak amongst yourselves until my vapors subside!


2 posted on 12/18/2003 12:58:15 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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"But Palm Beach town attorney John Randolph said case law shows that when a menorah is placed next to a secular symbol -- such as a "secular holiday tree" -- it isn't considered a religious symbol."

That's ridiculous! A Menorah is a religious symbol wherever it is place, just like the Star of David.



3 posted on 12/18/2003 1:01:08 PM PST by atruelady
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But Palm Beach town attorney John Randolph said case law shows that when a menorah is placed next to a secular symbol -- such as a "secular holiday tree" -- it isn't considered a religious symbol.

How about putting the tree in the center & the Menorah on the left & the Nativity on the right?

That way the 'secular symbol' tree can make both of them less religious!.....These people seem to lack 'common sense' or are they discriminating against the Christian symbol?

4 posted on 12/18/2003 1:02:57 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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Seems that th eoligarchy of Despots (the Judiciary)has
also decided that a christmas Cretch is somehow more
acceptable if surrounded by popular Godless(secular) myth.
If only the schools of Law would return to the only thing
that would make them more acceptable--honor of the language
and intent of the COnstitution instead of the stupid power
plays of the modern oligarchy of despots.
5 posted on 12/18/2003 1:09:16 PM PST by StonyBurk
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"But Palm Beach town attorney John Randolph said case law shows that when a menorah is placed next to a secular symbol -- such as a 'secular holiday tree' -- it isn't considered a religious symbol."

Case law only shows that devious attornies are capable of making judges give really stupid decisions. A menorah is a religious symbol, ESPECIALLY ON HANUKKAH.

6 posted on 12/18/2003 1:09:31 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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"secular holiday trees."

Mother nature is offended!

8 posted on 12/18/2003 1:10:04 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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I have a good solution. Drive the town attorney out to the Everglades, shoot him in both knees and let him walk home.
15 posted on 12/18/2003 1:49:50 PM PST by thoughtomator (The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
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If they allow menorahs and nativity scenes on public property, what will the Muslims want as their contribution?

Dioramas of the WTC exploding?

18 posted on 12/18/2003 2:18:39 PM PST by BushMeister
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School principal has NO AUTHORITY to ban anything!He is NOT a judge.
19 posted on 12/18/2003 2:38:27 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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What sign is more Jewish than a Menorah?? It's really no wonder that anti-Semitism is on the rise, and this is the reason.
22 posted on 12/18/2003 2:52:26 PM PST by Ann Archy
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Scotty, beam me up. There is no intelligent life in Palm Beach.
26 posted on 12/18/2003 5:58:55 PM PST by Clint Williams
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I am starting to rethink my criticisms of Pat Buchanan more and more when I read stories like this.
28 posted on 12/18/2003 6:13:05 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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At the risk of offending some freepers, I believe that Jews in America , at least some Jews, have little reguard for Christians, and do not stand up for Christians, even as most Christians bend over backwards to include Jews in everything....

"Judeo-Christian" :....the diversity people want us to believe that its all for one and one for all, which is what I want to believe, but time and again, many Jews just do not defend Christians...

I am guessing, but I think the ACLU is made up of many Jewish people, and we all know the ACLU never met a Christian symbol it liked.....

29 posted on 12/18/2003 9:40:44 PM PST by cherry
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As a Jew, I find this totally f---d up. Talking about missing the point of the First Amendment! For those wondering what the term "Chutzpah" means, this is a prime example of it. Totally meshooginah...

I keep telling my parents that if they retire to Florida, I'll never visit them. Yet another reason why...



34 posted on 12/19/2003 5:47:34 AM PST by Guvmint_Cheese
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Christian symbols are illegal in the Public Square, unless of course, they're soaking in a bottle of urine, or smeared with animal feces.
35 posted on 12/19/2003 5:49:37 AM PST by Guillermo (Shoot me if you ever see me on a Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson or Scott Peterson thread)
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This is SO idiotic. I am Jewish, and if I were in Palm Beach, I would be protesting this. This is just nuts.
38 posted on 12/19/2003 7:32:58 AM PST by veronica (Monterey County Film Commission Screenwriting Contest /ATTN:FR writers/FReepmail me)
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In my town there are X-mas decorations placed on all gov't buildings and roadways. There is an X-mas parade. All paid for by taxpayer money. The members of traditional christian denominations don't care much to ask Jews, Jehovah Witnesses, or sabbatarian christians if they should/should not celebrate X-Mas. JMO, they don't care much for SCOTUS rulings that cut into their interests either.

The latter groups don't waste their breath in protest. What would be the point of causing divisions and hard feelings? Because the flip side to not protesting this simple once-a-year demonstration of one groups religious belief on the taxpayer's dime...affords Jews, Jehovah Witness, and sabbatarian christians the freedom/community good will to do their own thing the rest of the year. JMO, the latter groups do not care to ask the former's opinion on whether they should/should not express their religious beliefs openly. Nor does the latter care much for SCOTUS rulings cutting into their interests either.

In the end, all groups are generally-speaking conservative constitutionalist that give a collective raspberry to the ACLU and the SCOTUS rulings. In the end we all get along just fine and have a laugh at the rest of the world gone mad.



Sometimes I think agitation and protesting preceived slights to one's own religion/idealism causes more grief in the long run. Whatever happen to the old idea of grinning and bearing it for the sake of the common good?
49 posted on 12/19/2003 10:15:07 AM PST by sully777 ("Not a thought lifted itself from Chance's brain. Peace filled his chest." -- Being There)
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I think Christians are out-manned in this situation. There are far more Jewish attorneys than Christian attorneys. I suspect the term Christian attorney may be an oxymoron. (c8
53 posted on 12/19/2003 10:51:10 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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Leftist judge pulls a twofer.
Christianity is attacked and Judaism is made to look like the assailant.
The Radical left splits religions and promote anti-Semitism in their attack on Christian America.
63 posted on 12/20/2003 2:25:42 AM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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One of the plaintiffs told Fox News she asked to speak before the town council to make her case but was refused.

The plaintiffs should sue each town council member personally. Then let the squirming begin!
66 posted on 12/20/2003 4:18:45 AM PST by demkicker
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