Lieutenant Commander Beidler, 32, on his way to Iraq in January, was walking with his family toward the end of Naval Station Pier 2 when the Times's Charlie LeDuff asked him for his general view of war protesters. Mr. Beidler recalls stating, "Protesters have a right to protest, and our job is to defend those rights. But in protesting, they shouldn't protest blindly; instead, they should provide reasonable solutions to the problem." The LeDuff version had Mr. Beidler criticizing Los Angeles protesters but turning his guns at a complacent United States: "It's war, Commander Beidler said, and the nation is fat. 'No one is screaming for battery-powered cars,' he added." The journalist then turned to Commander Beidler wife's Christal: "'I'm just numb,' she said as she patted down his collar. 'I'll cry myself to sleep, I'm sure.'"
Something always gets lost in the translation. An honest error, I am sure.
Exactly why was this guy not fired for basically committing fraud?
To: William McKinley
Because the heat isn't on... yet.
2 posted on
12/17/2003 3:30:27 PM PST by
thoughtomator
(The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
To: William McKinley
In response, a Times editor shrugged off Beidler's complaint... The NY Times has been in a spider hole too long.
3 posted on
12/17/2003 3:30:53 PM PST by
Wheee The People
(If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
To: Timesink; Liz; Grampa Dave
Pingenfreude
4 posted on
12/17/2003 3:31:06 PM PST by
martin_fierro
(Holder of an M.A. degree in The Obvious)
To: William McKinley
Let's hope Lieutenant Commander Beidler gets to tell his story to a national televised audience.
5 posted on
12/17/2003 3:36:11 PM PST by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: William McKinley
LeDuff (l)
6 posted on
12/17/2003 3:37:39 PM PST by
martin_fierro
(Holder of an M.A. degree in The Obvious)
To: William McKinley
I felt good and I felt like, hey I'm smart enough. I can do this. What a shock.
8 posted on
12/17/2003 3:46:20 PM PST by
paltz
To: William McKinley
9 posted on
12/17/2003 3:48:38 PM PST by
martin_fierro
(Holder of an M.A. degree in The Obvious)
To: William McKinley
I'm sorry, but this is racial profiling. Two out of two minority employees accused of plagiarism? Coincidence? Can't be! They are looking to fire minorities. The NYT is in deeeep trouble if they accuse any other minority of plagiarism. The next one or two or five caught HAVE to be white. So all you black and minority plagiarists still on the payroll are home free. Go copy!!!
11 posted on
12/17/2003 3:57:39 PM PST by
Tacis
To: William McKinley
The Times has sealed it's fate as the National Enquirer of big-city newspapers.
To: William McKinley
Exactly why was this guy not fired for basically committing fraud? Because The New York Times is sitting on its LeDuff, maybe?
14 posted on
12/17/2003 4:03:32 PM PST by
arasina
(What will YOU do when Howard Dean or Hillary Clinton is president?)
To: William McKinley
Is it just me or did Howell Raines have a lot of young men as "pets". I'm not liking what I'm thinking about this.
19 posted on
12/17/2003 4:26:54 PM PST by
CyberAnt
(America .. the LIGHT of the World)
To: William McKinley
It's the press; it lies. It's the honest few that are the exception.
21 posted on
12/17/2003 4:55:42 PM PST by
Eala
(Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
To: William McKinley
Once, just once I'd like to see a reporter at the NYT "accidentally" slip-in a conservative sentiment. Let's see how that yob who blew-off the Lieutenant Commander acts then.
22 posted on
12/17/2003 4:58:57 PM PST by
1rudeboy
To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Here we go again....
Just damn.
If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...
26 posted on
12/17/2003 6:04:31 PM PST by
mhking
(Bud Light salutes Real Men of Genius: Mr. Silent Killer Gas Passer...)
To: William McKinley
I just sort of wrote an obituary
I felt good and I felt like, hey I'm smart enough. I can do thisLike, man, totally cool.
Another RAT for literacy.
27 posted on
12/17/2003 6:19:00 PM PST by
mombonn
To: William McKinley
Just like my grad student in education threatened me when I caught him plagiarizing: "You can't fail me. Nobody ever told me that I couldn't copy from the internet and I
am getting my Masters in December!"
That's a quote. He probably did get his masters in Education but delayed by a semester.
28 posted on
12/17/2003 6:21:27 PM PST by
eleni121
To: William McKinley
[The New York Times was] my first newspaper job. I was an intern for three months at the Alaska Fisherman's Journal.
That was my first publication-type job. But the first thing I ever wrote that got published, my Russian friend in the Northeast got killed with alcohol. I just sort of wrote an obituary. The new class of Russian youth, after the fall of the wall, on the street corners selling pins and posters, running from the law. And I wrote that and I think I wrote it pretty well. I felt good and I felt like, hey I'm smart enough. I can do this.
My 10-year old has a better sense of vocabulary and sentence structure than this "journalist".
29 posted on
12/18/2003 1:03:07 AM PST by
Tamzee
(Pennsylvanians for Bush! Join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PA4BushCheney/)
To: William McKinley
ROFL..there is no LA River! It's an aqueduct.
Forget lazy journalism...it's plain stupidity!
30 posted on
12/18/2003 1:19:22 AM PST by
Fledermaus
(Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
To: William McKinley
Exactly why was this guy not fired for basically committing fraud?Now why do you think?
To: William McKinley; Travis McGee; Freee-dame
In response, a Times editor shrugged off Beidler's complaint. LeDuff, he informed Beidler, "thinks that he accurately represented his interview with you and your wife, and therefore so do I. If you have another encounter some day with The New York Times, I hope its outcome is more satisfactory to you." Institutional arrogance. Diversity monomania. Intellectual thievery. Wasn't this all supposed to end with the fall of Raines? How many other victims of LeDuff's "colorful writing" are out there? And how many other Jayson Blairs remain nestled in the Gray Lady's bosom?
JUST "WOW"
I hope Michelle makes the rounds of talk shows to spread this story widely. Most Americans might not pay a lot of attention to what passes for journalism at the NYT, but applying ficticious anti-war speech to a serviceman (Lt Commander) on his way to war is WAY beyond the limits of 'free' speech.
35 posted on
12/18/2003 6:35:17 AM PST by
maica
(Laus Deo)
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