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1 posted on 12/16/2003 4:51:25 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
More fallout from the intelligence windfall in Saddam's briefcase?

But Saddam wasn't doing anything to direct the guerrilla campaign. Just like there was no connection between Saddam and 9/11.
2 posted on 12/16/2003 4:56:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: 11th_VA; William McKinley; JohnHuang2; Dog
A coworker just told me this. Fantastic news if true. He's the one suspected of masterminding some or all of the insurgent attacks.
3 posted on 12/16/2003 4:56:57 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: 11th_VA
Merry Christmas!
4 posted on 12/16/2003 4:57:20 AM PST by The Mayor (If God could Vote, he would vote with the Right wing conspiracy)
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To: 11th_VA
the information is not confirmed and is confusing.

However if true, definitely a Merry Christmas!

5 posted on 12/16/2003 5:00:32 AM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; boxerblues; mystery-ak; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...
Still unconfirmed, but fingers crossed.
6 posted on 12/16/2003 5:01:35 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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Good news ping
7 posted on 12/16/2003 5:06:39 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: 11th_VA
The jig is up.

Cheese it, the cops.

Like rats leaving a sinking ship--or Ba'ath tub.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 5:09:23 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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Not verified yet?
10 posted on 12/16/2003 5:09:35 AM PST by smith288 ("The United States has a system of taxation by confession." - Hugo Black,Supreme Court Justice)
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The look on Al-Qaetie Couric's face when she has to report on this will be grim, very grim.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 5:23:37 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: 11th_VA
Fox News now reporting this.
20 posted on 12/16/2003 5:26:11 AM PST by Starrgaizr
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Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri aka Krusty the Clown. Some have said he resembles Krusty the Clown. I hope there is a future episode of The Simpsons where Krusty visits Iraq on a USO tour and gets mistaken for Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri. Meanwhile Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri makes himself look like Krusty and takes his place on the USO tour.

Izzat Ibrahim al-Krusti?

21 posted on 12/16/2003 5:26:54 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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I found this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105877,00.html

Report: Papers Link Saddam to al-Douri

Tuesday, December 16, 2003



WASHINGTON — Secret papers found in Saddam Hussein's (search) hiding place reveal that he had regular contact with the leader of the terrorists who oppose the U.S. presence in Iraq, military officials told The Post.



The papers prove Saddam communicated with Izzat Ibrahim al Douri (search), his former deputy in the Ba'ath Party - the political organization behind his reign of terror.

Details were sketchy, but the documents show Saddam was more deeply involved in the resistance than previously believed, the officials said.

And the farm complex in Adwar where Saddam was found hiding in a "spider hole" Saturday may have been a terrorist meeting spot.

People coming to see Saddam could get there by boat on the nearby Tigris River (search), the official said.

Saddam's communication with al-Douri is just part of a treasure trove of secrets found at the hiding place - which led yesterday to the arrests of two key Iraqi terror leaders.

U.S. officials said that crucial documents, found in the Butcher of Baghdad's briefcase, included a list of six names, including two financiers, two bomb makers, and the two arrested resistance leaders, described as distant relatives of Saddam.

The documents also detailed the structure and financing of eight to 12 vicious terror cells around Baghdad - of which the U.S. had known little.

The information should bring more arrests in the coming days, said officials.

"Some were things we already knew about and we just needed the intel to go after them. I think we'll get some significant intelligence over the next couple of days," said Gen. Mark Hertling of the Army's 1st Armored Division.

Uncovering Saddam's involvement with and knowledge of recent Ba'athist death-squad activities remains the first priority of CIA agents interrogating Saddam.

"I'm sure he was giving some guidance to some key figures in this insurgency. When you take down a mob boss, you don't know how much is going to come out of it," Hertling told reporters.

But so far, Saddam remains grumpy and uncooperative, sources said, spending much of Day 2 of his sessions with the CIA refusing to say much beyond "rote" political rhetoric.

"He's been fairly defiant," an official told Fox News. "While he's talkative, he's provided nothing substantial. His comments are self-serving, lengthy rationalizations of his behavior, and he punctuates a lot of it with wise-ass and deflective remarks."

When he was first found, Saddam immediately offered to negotiate, according to some reports.

Saddam, who was initially interviewed at a secure holding facility at the Baghdad International Airport, has been taken to a secret location inside Iraq.

According to U.S. officials briefed on the interrogation sessions, the ex-tyrant has gone through a series of wild mood swings since being captured on Saturday.

He was first reported to be "bewildered" and "disoriented" when he arrived in Baghdad.

But after a shower and nap on an army cot, he was defiant as he met with members of Iraq's governing body, claiming he was a "fair and just" ruler and that people found in mass graves were "thieves and army deserters."

"I found a very broken man," said governing council member Muffaq al-Rubaiye.

He said Saddam would not look at Iraq's political leadership during their meeting and seemed to be trying to make eye contact with Paul Bremer, the chief U.S. administrator in Iraq and Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq.

"He was, I think, psychologically ruined and very demoralized. His body language showed that he was very miserable. He felt safer with the Americans," Rubaiye added.

Looking ahead, U.S. officials said they plan to treat him the same way they treated top Al Qaeda prisoners like 9/11 plotter Khalid Sheik Muhammad, meaning his interrogation could last for months and that he could be subjected to physical and psychological pressures.


For more news, entertainment and sports coverage, click here for NYPost.com.


23 posted on 12/16/2003 5:28:07 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: 11th_VA
I hope this report is true.
25 posted on 12/16/2003 5:29:16 AM PST by Catspaw
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Yesterday a grim faced Al-Qaetie Couric claimed that Saddam's capture was merely symbolic and that Al-Duri was the real mastermind over in Iraq. Watch for Al-Qaetie Couric to be even more grim-faced with this news.
26 posted on 12/16/2003 5:29:25 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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Senator Pat Roberts was just on Fox & Friends confirming an unconfirmed report by Richard Armitage that says al Douri has surrendered. Confused yet?
27 posted on 12/16/2003 5:30:28 AM PST by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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This guy is at least as dangerous as Saddam was.
I pray we got him.
36 posted on 12/16/2003 5:38:24 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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Fabulous news! If you drain the ~$1 billion in loose cash these old Saddam leader's had to spread around rewarding the insurrection, and these activities will start to dry up quickly. Not that all this stuff will be over, but the intensity and frequency of the attacks is bound to subside, despite the desperate wishes of Demo presidential candidates and French/Russian sympathizers.

Let's project what the next six months might look like: Iraq rapidly rebuilding as the cash authorized by Congress finally gets through the pipeline; Saddam being put on trial and the daily recounting of his crimes and horrors being broadcast to the world; the Iraqi Governing Council finally starting to take some more responsibility in advance of the transfer of power; other Arab states slinking covertly to the US to confess their sins and begging for forgiveness; etc. etc.

And then imagine Howard Dean and his ilk trying to continue their campaign of hatred for the Bush Administration. Sounds like a encouraging period for the USA and its defenders/supporters (too bad, Demo Underground).

38 posted on 12/16/2003 5:40:05 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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"Saddam's No 2 may have surrendered to coalition forces in Iraq: Kuwait TV"

I would imagine Saddam's No 2 is still in that hole, where he left it when the Americans showed up.

40 posted on 12/16/2003 5:41:07 AM PST by Freemyland
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Izzat al-Douri?

LOL.

44 posted on 12/16/2003 5:42:26 AM PST by mewzilla
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48 posted on 12/16/2003 5:47:32 AM PST by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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