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How To Combat Islamist Terrorism Without Combating Islam?
The Iranian Student Movement Up to the Minute Reports ^ | 11-06-03 | Iran va Jahan

Posted on 12/15/2003 7:24:12 PM PST by nuconvert

How To Combat Islamist Terrorism Without Combating Islam?

Iran va Jahan / Mehdi Mozaffari

November 06, 2003/The laconic answer to this question would be: 'that it is not an easy task but a highly compelling one'. The issue is far too complicated to be answered laconically. Let me begin with a reformulation of the above question.

Why It Is Necessary To Combat Islamist Terrorism Without Combating Islam? Or Why Not Combat Both At The Same Time?

Three reasons explain the impossibility of such an enterprise:

First, it does not represent the issue, Second, it is not feasible, and Third, it is not a wise approach.

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1 posted on 12/15/2003 7:24:12 PM PST by nuconvert
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2 posted on 12/15/2003 7:24:28 PM PST by nuconvert
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It's a start.

--Boris

3 posted on 12/15/2003 7:49:04 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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How To Combat Islamist Terrorism Without Combating Islam?

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It absolutely can not be done. Islam is a highly aggressive psychosis begun by a madman fourteen hundred years ago who himself led 28 military operations of conquest in the name of Allah and left highly explicit commandments for his successors to continue doing the same. They did, conquering one fifth of the world. They continue to do so and to kill people in nations thought the world. On 9/11 we just got a small dose of what the rest of the world has been getting for centuries --and what will continue.

Islam is, and has been, entirely too confident. Its confidence grows as it is coddled. Under and insane politically correct multiculturalism and a weak American president Islam's self confidence has not only been undisturbed, but is becoming more arrogant and continuing to grow. Under present strategy, or lack of realistic strategy, Islam will conquer the world and us.

Islam must be decisively refuted and rejected as being the aggressive madness it is to disturb that confidence and put it on the defensive instead of being coddled or WE WILL LOSE JUST AS SURELY AS YOU ARE READING THIS. You can take it to the bank.

4 posted on 12/15/2003 7:49:55 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
bttt
5 posted on 12/15/2003 7:57:29 PM PST by lainde
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So....we'll just slaughter them all, right? Down to the last man, woman and child? All 1 Billion? Is that your plan?
6 posted on 12/15/2003 7:58:41 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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They're gonna force the issue.

Either they decide to live in modern times, or they will not.
7 posted on 12/15/2003 8:01:19 PM PST by Monty22
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@1.5 Billion. That's a few hundred million more.
Still think you can kill them all?
8 posted on 12/15/2003 8:06:33 PM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
We'll see...
9 posted on 12/15/2003 8:10:26 PM PST by Monty22
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To: nuconvert
A start would be to stop importing the poison into our home.
10 posted on 12/15/2003 8:15:55 PM PST by dagnabbit (Stop immigrating Islam. Don't let France happen to America.)
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So, you're just going to shoot the kids? Or will we go for efficiency and gas them? I mean...1 Billion people, that's a hell of a pogrom. Also, what about the people who don't want to kill every Muslim in the world and think that it's a plan feasible only in the minds of people who are not just idiotic, not just sociopathic, but sociopaths who are also idiots. Do we get shot too, or does being a non-Muslim earn me a pass?

Please, get back to me. I'm interested in details.

11 posted on 12/15/2003 8:17:24 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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How To Combat Islamist Terrorism Without Combating Islam? ----------------------- It absolutely can not be done.

I agree, not without really peeling away a lot of chaff in the quran, at the very least. Take away anything that contradicts standards of decent behavior.

NOt likely to happen though.

12 posted on 12/15/2003 8:19:48 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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So, you're just going to shoot the kids?

How about you quit setting up straw men first.

The kids aren't going to be the ones forcing the issue. You just keep applying pressure to the nations that condone this awful mindset until they reform from within. What else you gonna do? If they come after you, yes, a quick and efficient dispatch (according to rules of war) is warranted.

13 posted on 12/15/2003 8:23:12 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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"The issue is not war between Islam on the one side and the rest of the world on the other. Neither is it a war that Islam has launched against Christianity or the Western hemisphere.'

Hmmmmmm wonder what comments the author would make on the "darul harb" vs "darul Islam" issue...

"If we take the Clash of Civilization's thesis, it is a fact that Islam as such does not represent a civilization any more. Islamic civilization extinguished many centuries ago; the remainders of which is merely a religion."

Its the fabled "golden age of Islam" that many seek to recreate in the latest Islamic resurgence.... and I also differ on the "mearly a religion" comment as well. A fundamental cornerstone of Islam is sharia, which amkes Islam a political system that promotes gender and religious apartheid.

However, after saying all that, I do see the positive aspects of not pissing off ALL 1.2 billion slaves of Allah all at once.

They are not a cohesive group and have many weaknesses to exploit. Ive said time and time again, that nobody kills Muslim better than a militant Muslim.

Know they enemy... divide and conquer.

14 posted on 12/15/2003 8:34:58 PM PST by USF
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Shoot the kids? nah, some of the imams would be a good start though... :o)
15 posted on 12/15/2003 8:36:31 PM PST by USF
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Don't be silly, what a waste. Merely the males between the ages of 12 and 50.

Here's the bottom line. I live and let live, period, stop, end...until some a$$hole decides that he/she/it wants and has some mystical ''right'' to threaten or kill my family because of some 7th century doctrine of ''jihad''.

At that point, my tolerance for ''diversity'' and other similar bilge, is precisely zero.

And here's the deal -- swear off the ''jihad'' nonsense, or die. Take your pick in your own good time.

I certainly hope you make a practical decision, as regards YOUR family.

16 posted on 12/15/2003 9:29:38 PM PST by SAJ
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To: nuconvert
Of course we can kill them all. See that pretty little mushroom cloud that Boris posted? The only question is whether we start redecorating dar al-islam in that motif before or after they do it to us.
17 posted on 12/15/2003 9:55:06 PM PST by applemac_g4
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What a bunch of incredibly wrong-thinking !!

Take a break from your prayer-cycle, sport fan, and read Huntington, Lewis, Pipes, Gibbons and Kaplan, etc. And, then, after you learn a bit about the real world, try to understand that this is, indeed, a Global Clash.

The Resurgence of militant, fundamentalist Islamist Jihadist's laid down the gauntlet. Western Civilization has been forced to pick it up... and, in for the long haul.

After your re-re-educational process is completed, join the Marines! Parris Island will be really educational.
18 posted on 12/15/2003 9:59:23 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: nuconvert
Doesn't seem possible. The only "moderate" Islamists I've ever seen are the ones who've run out of ammunition.
19 posted on 12/15/2003 10:23:37 PM PST by Prime Choice (Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
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Taking ''Islamist'' to be a term describing one who intends to spread Islam far and wide, by ANY means, the only ''moderate'' Islamist is one who is pushing up daisies. He/she/it is a targer for BOTH the Islamists and those of us who prefer to survive.
20 posted on 12/15/2003 10:37:45 PM PST by SAJ (n)
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