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The Supreme Court Allows Arrests of All in Drug Stops (PoliceState)
AP ^ | Dec 15,2003 | GINA HOLLAND

Posted on 12/15/2003 2:17:27 PM PST by ask

Court Allows Arrests of All in Drug Stops

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court issued a traffic warning Monday: Beware of whom you ride with. If drugs are found in a vehicle, all occupants can be arrested, the justices said in a unanimous decision.

It was a victory for Maryland and 20 other states that argued police frequently find drugs in traffic stops but no one in the vehicle claims them. The court gave officers the go-ahead to arrest everyone.

In a small space like a car, an officer could reasonably infer "a common enterprise" among a driver and passengers, the justices ruled.

The case stemmed from an incident in 1999, when police in the Baltimore suburbs pulled over a speeding car. A search revealed a roll of cash in the glove compartment and cocaine in an armrest in the back seat.

The driver and the two passengers denied having anything to do with the contraband, so all three men were arrested.

Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, writing for the court, said police had probable cause to suspect that the drugs belonged to any of the three, or all of them.

Lisa Kemler, a criminal defense attorney from Alexandria, Va., said the court seems to be saying: "know who your company is."

"How many times have you gotten a ride with a friend? Are you going to peer around in their glove compartment?" asked Kemler, who fears the ruling will lead to a police dragnet. "You could find probable cause to arrest everybody."

Michael Rushford, president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a pro-law enforcement group, said police can't be expected to sort out ownership of drugs or guns in the middle of a traffic stop.

"You certainly wouldn't let three people with Uzis in their car leave because no one would admit the uzis were theirs," he said.

Maryland's highest court had thrown out the conviction of a passenger in the car, Joseph Jermaine Pringle, on grounds that his arrest violated the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches or seizures. The Supreme Court reversed that decision.

"Pringle's attempt to characterize this case as a guilt-by-associaton case is unavailing," Rehnquist wrote in the brief decision.

Pringle told police later that the drugs were his and that he had planned to swap them for sex or money at a party. His 10-year prison sentence will be reinstated.

The American Civil Liberties Union and National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers filed a brief supporting Pringle. Their lawyer said the ruling will sweep innocent passengers into criminal cases.

"There's nothing in this opinion to prevent a police officer from arresting a graduate student who is offered a ride home late at night from a party that she has attended with some fellow students," said Tracey Maclin, a Boston University law professor.

The court's rationale could be used in other police search cases, involving homes, Maclin said.

The ruling dealt with the discovery of drugs and cash, but it could apply to other contraband as well.

Supporting Maryland in the case were the Bush administration, along with Alabama, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico.

The case is Maryland v. Pringle, 02-809.

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To: Husker24
No, it has to be reasonable. Consider being inside a car that is stollen as a comparison. Police have arrested everyone. Same thing with people found inside a crackhouse.

This has always occured in the past based on probable cause.
161 posted on 12/15/2003 10:39:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Gigantor
Better put a magic spell on all of your tail lights. Especially the license plate bulb.

Or just DON'T SPEED. LOL

162 posted on 12/16/2003 4:52:36 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: ClintonBeGone
Better put a magic spell on all of your tail lights. Especially the license plate bulb.

Or just DON'T SPEED. LOL

And when your bulb burns out while you're doing the speed limit, what then?
163 posted on 12/16/2003 5:40:08 AM PST by Gigantor (You're in America now; SPEAK AMERICAN!)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Its all about revenue collection and asset forfieture.

LEO around here has a special multi-car task force to prowl the interstate specifically profiling out of state drivers in the hopes of finding drugs, guns and money.

Last week a car was pulled, search granted and $50,000 found and confiscated, No Drugs, No contraband, only money.

The Sheriff's dept. will end up keeping the money.
164 posted on 12/16/2003 5:46:09 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: NYC GOP Chick
BTW, the reason given for pulling the car in the first place was "car was observed to change lanes without signalling".
165 posted on 12/16/2003 5:47:24 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ask
The thing that worries me is the possibility of drugs being planted. It just became a lot easier to get away with that, and "persuade" one person to testify against the other(s).

-Eric

166 posted on 12/16/2003 5:48:49 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: oldironsides
AND? what does that have to do with the article? Dirty cops are everywhere, but dope and driving dont mix. So The Point?

OPs4 God BLess America!
167 posted on 12/16/2003 5:58:32 AM PST by OPS4
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
169 posted on 12/16/2003 8:28:22 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: AdamSelene235
And, what, pray tell, is wrong with owning an Uzi?

Drug Warriors don't like "assault weapons" and use the same "living constitution" philosiphy in shaping their opinions.

170 posted on 12/16/2003 8:29:29 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: Sandy
That's not true. There needs to be probable cause before police can search a vehicle. Absent probable cause, permission must be given, which is what happened in the case at issue.

Aw, how cute, you think you still have rights.

See Terry vs. Ohio 1968.

During a detention, anything you can immediately reach is searchable without a warrant. Read the 4th amendment carefully, you are only protected against "unreasonable" searches and seizures. The SCOTUS has ruled Terry searches to be reasonable warrantless searches.

All that is required for a detention is RAS which is a much, much lower standard than Probable Cause.

171 posted on 12/16/2003 8:30:55 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
May I ask? LeRoy is that you?


172 posted on 12/16/2003 8:32:14 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: jmc813
Drug Warriors don't like "assault weapons" and use the same "living constitution" philosiphy in shaping their opinions.

I would much rather have somebody shooting at me with an Uzi than say a Sig Sauer. Sights suck, and the delay from the open bolt make accuracy pretty crappy.

173 posted on 12/16/2003 8:35:01 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: jmc813
LOL, couldn't resist when I saw that he had just signed up.

My apologies.

How did you like the outcome of Survivor?

174 posted on 12/16/2003 8:45:38 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
How did you like the outcome of Survivor?

Mixed feelings. Once again, stupid gameplay dictated the endgame. Also, I was turned off by the "sour grapes syndrome" displayed by the jury in grilling Lil. The same thing happens every year on Big Brother.

As far as Sandra, I'm happy to see her win. She seems like a decent person, and she employed the "fly below the radar" doctrine which I am a big proponent of.

I thought the part where Probst described calling Jon's family to offer condolences, only to end up speaking with the "dead grandmother" was hilarious.

I really looking forward to All Stars. Go Rudy!

175 posted on 12/16/2003 8:55:34 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: EuroFrog
"This doesnt bother me at all since me and my husband are the only ones that ever drive our car and rarely if ever does another person outside of my family get in the car and its usually a friend on our way to our church ladies group."

When they came for the first right I didn't fight, because it wasn't for me they came. Now they have come for me and no one is left to fight! If you expect to enjoy any rights granted to you, then you need to defend them all!
176 posted on 12/16/2003 8:58:33 AM PST by CSM (Councilmember Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
What if the item found on the floor were counterfeit money? Or a bomb?

Or an Uzi? *shudder*

178 posted on 12/16/2003 9:01:19 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: jmc813
Mixed feelings. Once again, stupid gameplay dictated the endgame. Also, I was turned off by the "sour grapes syndrome" displayed by the jury in grilling Lil. The same thing happens every year on Big Brother.

Yeah my pet peeve every year on Survivor and Big Brother, as personifed by Burton this year, is the theme "you lied to me". And what utter supreme hypocracy on his part. He had voted for her to be evicted. Grow up folks!

As far as Sandra, I'm happy to see her win. She seems like a decent person, and she employed the "fly below the radar" doctrine which I am a big proponent of.

Agreed. She was a sneaky little girl. Man if she had been voted off it was gonna be hard on the remaining folks, as she planned to hide all of their vital necessities. LOL

I thought the part where Probst described calling Jon's family to offer condolences, only to end up speaking with the "dead grandmother" was hilarious.

I actually found myself liking Jon more than I thought I would. You have to hand it to him, he was probably the smartest player in the game.

I really looking forward to All Stars. Go Rudy!

That should be fun to watch.

179 posted on 12/16/2003 9:05:33 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: Itzlzha
"I thought that you needed to PROVE who the guilty party was...not just spread the guilt around!"

Three bad guys confront another. One pulls a gun, one shot fired, the guy dies. All three are charged with murder. You don't agree?

180 posted on 12/16/2003 9:10:33 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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