Regarding Freeper Obit. TrappedInLiberalHell and Depression

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[joesbucks]

The problems of depression and despair.

[Chad Fairbanks]

I wasn't defending anyone over anyone else, but merely commenting on a dishonest debating style.

If you don't agree, that's fine, but it doesn't make me, or anyone else here, a monster.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Thank you. I was just getting ready to post similar sentiments, but you did so much more eloquently than I could have. Of couse we have rights of free speech, this is a public forum, etc. But good Lord, can't people VOLUNTARILY stifle their "rights" just for a little while and show some compassion?

Cry me a river. This wasn't a thread about TILH, but a thread about Depression/Suicide - and is an opinion discussion thread. If you want FReepers to stifle their opinions, for fear of offending someone, then you may be at the wrong site. Maybe there's a touchy-feely PC liberal site out there you can go enjoy.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"Ah, but you see-- what happens when the problem is that something is no longer yours to be "in charge of"? What happens when all you can do is watch?"

Yes. And attitude or rationality have no effect, no matter how positive, on the reality that cognitive function and physical ability are greatly diminished. It is the realization of loss and the acceptance of a limited future that can lead to suicide until thought thru and accepted.

[snopercod]

Thanks for your comments. My wife (who is now supporting us), bought me MS Flight Simulator, which is really cool. But I miss the "G" forces and the smell of fear in the cockpit ;-)

[At _War_With_Liberals]

That is the LAST thing she needs now.

[Tax Government]

Depression I think starts out as a problem-solving mechanism. If you see the future and don't like it, that belief is the starting point for fixing it.

[Chad Fairbanks]

That is the LAST thing she needs now.

Yeah, what she needs is discussion on Free Republic - that'll fix everything, provided people stifle their opinions long enough.

[bonfire]

It also just might be her saving grace.

[tiki]

I think depression is inherited and I don't think it is really mental. I don't know how you fight it for reals because those in my family who opt for treatment haven't done so well and those who tough it out don't do so well so I think there is not a real solution.

Once I was depressed for 3 years and I didn't even know it! You're so involved in your life and your misery that you don't recognize it as an illness. I never told a soul how I was feeling I kept it all to myself. I used to think of painless ways to kill myself but I was too chicken to do anything. As I got better I just prayed that God would let me die and as I got really better I thanked God for sparing me. I have never gotten that bad again and I hope I never do but I think I might realize what was happening if it did.

I can usually spot a depressed person a mile away and I know that most would be offended if I told them there was something wrong with them. You recognize their coping mechanisms and their body language. You see the tiredness and the weakness and you wish you could say something to them.

3 years ago, my niece sent me an e-mail and it was just about coming to visit and maybe staying awhile but there was so much between the lines. I wrote back and told her that she could come anytime but I thought she should see a doctor first because I thought she was in a deep depression and she was, they hospitalized her. I grew up with a bi-polar mother and you never knew what to expect but I grew up to be pretty flexible and spontaneous:-} We didn't know any of this stuff then and we just coped. As I said, I don't know if you are better off with treatment or just toughing it out but it exists and isn't any different than any other PHYSICAL disease. It isn't because you're weak or stupid or emotional, I think is is chemical and I don't think the medical community really knows enough yet. Some of the drugs they prescribe are as harmful as the depression and make you feel physically worse.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

The idea that a widow, a day after the death of her husband, is 'guilt tripping' because she is defending her husband's memory after being PINGED to a malicious and disingenuous post about him... is simply beyond belief.

[IronJack]

That one or one very like it. Yep. That's what I mean.

[snopercod]

Thanks. Everyone should try poverty (for a while).

It re-orders one's ideas of what is important in life. There's poverty and then there's abject poverty, but I haven't reached the abject stage yet. (There was one FReeper who told that he had had to hunt and gather for his food at one time or another.)

I had to make a trip to California a couple of weeks ago for a funeral, and was simply amazed at the mindset of the folks out there.

Thousands of supermarket cashiers making $20 per hour on strike because they refuse to pay 5% or their medical insurance? Everybody in debt up to their ears. Just damn...

I wish them well.

[Clara Lou]

The basic problem is that the woman should never have been pinged to the thread. That's what created the problem. I notice that the pinger has vanished. Why would he ping her to a thread that might be hurtful to her? That's the question. I certainly don't blame her for being on line or for following his ping.

[bonfire]

I understand where you are coming from.

My neighbor put a gun to his head, in front of his young grandchildren, and blew his brains out. There are no words to describe the horror.

That was 16 years ago in another state. I still wonder and worry about those kids.

[Siouxz]

Cry me a river. This wasn't a thread about TILH, but a thread about Depression/Suicide - and is an opinion discussion thread. If you want FReepers to stifle their opinions, for fear of offending someone, then you may be at the wrong site. Maybe there's a touchy-feely PC liberal site out there you can go enjoy.

No, jerkoff. I don't want FReepers to stifle their opinions for fear of offending someone. But I thought as human beings, we could be kinder to someone who is going through hell on earth right now. I really had no problem with this thread until Dane pinged TILC's widow to it. That was just out and out cruelty. And you're just oozing with the milk of human kindness too, aren't you?

[Chad Fairbanks]

The idea that a widow, a day after the death of her husband, is 'guilt tripping' because she is defending her husband's memory after being PINGED to a malicious and disingenuous post about him... is simply beyond belief.

The idea that a widow, a day after the suicide of her husband, is Freeping, and expecting everyone to avoid saying anything to her that could lack compassion and the like... is simply beyond belief.

[185JHP]

One thing you can do that will change your perspective, is to read the entire Bible. Start with Genesis, and read the whole thing. It won't be easy, because there will be opposition. The phone will ring, you'll get a headache, get sleepy, and other things will happen. There is a powerful being who doesn't want you to read it - especially the whole thing. You can read 1 Book a day - that'll take 66 days. Total reading time required is about 70 hours. You'll find out the benefit, if you do it.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

He pinged a widow to his malicious post attacking the memory of her not yet buried husband.

That is not a 'debating style'

It is a pre-meditated sadistic act that was not a genuine expression of thought.

[Clara Lou]

See? This is a great thread. I, too, know the difference between poverty and abject poverty. Did the poverty thing. Didn't have to do the abject poverty thing. God is good.

[Chad Fairbanks]

The basic problem is that the woman should never have been pinged to the thread. That's what created the problem. I notice that the pinger has vanished. Why would he ping her to a thread that might be hurtful to her? That's the question. I certainly don't blame her for being on line or for following his ping.

I agree, the ping was not a nice thing to do - we are in agreement there. However, I would have just ignored it. I ignore a lot of pings.