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| Dec. 10, 2003
| Steve Chapman
Posted on 12/11/2003 10:48:56 AM PST by luckydevi
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To: cupcakes
I daresay you are a damn fine person, Cupcakes, despite your parents, not because.
To: wtc911
The genuinely sad aspect is the couple of Xers who laid their tragic childhoods out for all to see then use their misfortunate parentage to condemn anyone their parents' age. Nope! I have boomers parents and I can say in raising me they did the best they could and overall while not perfect by a long shot they were darn good and I know they will be there for me no matter what. Nothing but praise here about the way my parents raised me. However I know I am the expection to the rule.
My "Hostility" towards the baby boomers comes from what other baby boomer parents did to their kids and the over all big net negative effect the baby boomers had and continue to have on my country.
I was born in 1970 so there was a split between kids my age that had parents that were baby boomers and kids that had parents that were of the silient generation. The difference between the two was easily seen. The baby boomer parents were never around and lot of the time their kids were being raised by their grandparents for they were out doing their own thing and couldn't be bothered. At "Kiddie" functions before I knew any better I used to feel a little weird because it always seemed that my parents were always so much younger than the other kid's parents, Of course the reason for this was because the parents of kids my age who were baby boomers my parents age or younger couldn't be bothered doing anything with or for their kids.
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posted on
12/11/2003 5:42:24 PM PST
by
qam1
(@Starting Generation X Ping list - Freep me to be added and see my home page for details)
To: BraveMan
Excellent find!! I remember when and where I saw it!!
Full circle or are we looping???
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posted on
12/11/2003 5:43:42 PM PST
by
JoeSixPack1
(POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
To: qam1
I am the expection to the rule. I am the exception to the rule
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posted on
12/11/2003 5:46:15 PM PST
by
qam1
(@Starting Generation X Ping list - Freep me to be added and see my home page for details)
To: Cicero
The Current Day Politicians are every bit as bad as any we have had for the past 60 years.
Let them pay first by forfeiting their Pensions and then I will be happy to retire later and do without Social Security.
RamS
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posted on
12/11/2003 5:47:17 PM PST
by
RamingtonStall
(Ride Hard and far! ..... and with GPS, Know where you are!)
To: thoughtomator
I think what the boomers don't get about abortion is that it is the ultimate expression of how they view all other human beings - as objects to manipulate or destroy at their pleasure. Be fair, thoughtomator, many people in their 20s and 30s have the same attitude and are every bit as bad.
To: wtc911
How does one go about correcting 12 years of victimology 101??
2-4 years of sociology 101,
and 2 years pre-K of "The building blocks of how to be offended"?
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posted on
12/11/2003 5:55:28 PM PST
by
JoeSixPack1
(POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
To: JoeSixPack1
This whole thread is amusing as a all get out. Gen X hating BB's isn't even a new idea. They stole it!! Remember back in the 60's when we 'lived' the phrase - "don't trust anyone over 30"? All the same words on this thread.
No, Because unlike the Baby Boomers whose hatred of past generations goes as far back as the founding fathers for the most part Gen-X & Y doesn't hate all Generations before them. We just dislike the Baby Boomers, Hell many Gen-X and Gen-Y were/are raised by their Silent/WWII grandparents because their boomer parents are out putting their career first or doing their own thing first and couldn't be bothered. While yes the WWII & Silent Generations did dabble in socialism they never conceived of taking it to the extremes the baby boomers did and unlike the baby boomers they still believed in strong American and Family values.
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posted on
12/11/2003 5:59:29 PM PST
by
qam1
(@Starting Generation X Ping list - Freep me to be added and see my home page for details)
To: luckydevi
Load Social Security with more obligations than it can bear, and our precious offspring will be squashed under the weight. To fund all the obligations of the Social Security system, payroll taxes will have to more than double by 2040on top of whatever it costs to buy all those prescription drugs. At that point, our children will realize the trick we've pulled and start to hate our guts. They'll probably do more than that. Involuntary euthanization for those that cost too much to fix, or those above a certain age, anyone?
PS: Not saying I support that, but it wouldn't surprise me if it came to pass.
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posted on
12/11/2003 6:04:56 PM PST
by
adx
(Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
To: wtc911; RC30
Pointing out that it is personal to me, which I will not hesitate to confirm, means nothing. It is personal in the same way that the War on Terror is personal to me, having been inside the WTC the first time it was hit. Are you going to argue that the War on Terror is wrong because it is personal to me? Neither is a rhetorical war against the destruction the boomers have wrought.
I don't see a lot of people in the boomer generation who fought hard against it. I see a lot of feminists and husbands who went along to get along.
If you think I am taking a huge leap by claiming that these sentiments are broadly held, you may want to avail yourself of GenX literature. I have a funny feeling I know a lot more GenXers than you do. And if you need more proof, witness that at least 4 other GenXers have confirmed what I have said, on this very thread. My experience, rather than an isolated personal trauma, is common theme to the GenX generation.
This is what they mean when, for example, there's a 50%+ divorce rate and you do nothing. Where were the boomers then? Well, if more than 50% of marriages fail, you're going to end up with more than 50% of the kids of those marriages who feel like this. Thus was born GenX, the first majority-alienated generation. And divorce was but a single of the immensely varied tools with which the boomers shredded the moral, social, and spiritual fabric of this nation.
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posted on
12/11/2003 6:07:02 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
To: Siamese Princess
I agree. There are those people in our generation... but they are not a majority and the percentage is shrinking as our unwillingness to be silent about it begins to burst open the pro-death propaganda barrel handed down to us.
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posted on
12/11/2003 6:11:48 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
To: kittymyrib
The Day-Care Generation is not all that bonded to their parents. They learned to survive pretty much on their own with not all that much emotional attachment to anyone, since all they saw was a long succession of minimum-wage "providers" from an early age. All those chickens will come home to roose when they also decide that they have to be "practical," just like their parents were when they needed them as babies and toddlers. Absolutely right. Someone once said, "if you stick your child in a day care center when he is little, because you want a life, don't be surprised when he sticks you in a nursing home when you're old, because he wants a life!"
Also, divorce tends to hurt the parent-child relationship. As a Baby Boomer myself, I think that few in my generation realize the widespread anger many young people feel towards one or both parents, because of divorce, daycare, etc. I've seen it and there will be hell to pay.
To: luckydevi
Go suck eggs. When SS was founded all those 65 or older couldn't take advantage of it. Oh, Well. What about those who since 1935 when they were all of 10 yrs. old and have been paying into SS ever since 1955, when they went to work,
who are receiving meager benefits for the investment? It is not charity or an entitlement it is their money. Their life's saving in most instances. I know pure conservatives are going to scream "Unconstitutional". Again, oh well, it is and it has been since 1935. Tell it to the mountain.
To: thoughtomator
You are right about one thing...I had no idea you guys were such whining poor-me types. About the rest...well, as I noted before, you clearly have issues.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:12:38 PM PST
by
wtc911
(I would like at least to know his name)
To: JoeSixPack1
I wonder who will be the Jesse Jackson in this bunch, the one to rise up and lead these poor victims. The more victimization rhetoric I see here, the more I appreciate the way mine, and the others I know, turned out.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:19:34 PM PST
by
wtc911
(I would like at least to know his name)
To: qam1; JoeSixPack1
Joe, don't you love it when some stranger tells you whom you hate, heck whom everyone your age hates? One gets the strong impression that these spite filled folks got their concepts of what life was like before their light graced our world from Hollywood and That Seventies Show?
It's funny, no, it's pathetic that these posters are in their thirties, not their teens.
Q, since so many of your friends are so messed up because their parents were messed up, upon whom do you place the blame for those parents being that way?
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:30:05 PM PST
by
wtc911
(I would like at least to know his name)
To: wtc911
If the boomers are as determined to ignore the sewage they've left at the nation's doorstep as you, then they will have much more serious issues than I might have, in about 15-20 years. A generation growing senile while gorging itself at the public trough is going to be in for a rough fall when the money runs out. How many years past 2013 do you think this Ponzi scheme is going to hold up?
Moreover, the question of euthanasia will be raised, as it seems it is at least once a generation. With GenXers at the peak of their political power, and by that time a mature GenY generation with very similar, if not worse experience with family matters, the boomers will be in extremely poor position. Having brutally destroyed all respect for family ties most by their words and deeds, to whom will elderly boomers plead? To the GenXers and GenYers they use as pawns to indulge their narcissism?
It will be very difficult to make a credible moral case against euthanasia for the boomer generation, given the boomer generation's overwhelming support for AND practice of feticide, AND which dumped the problem for ending the holocaust on the next, AND which abhored the Word of God by which they would otherwise know that to murder is forbidden.
Since you're so into issues, why don't you work out the issue of why boomers are so scared of God that they won't even tell their children that God forbids them to murder? Is this rampant deiophobia indicative of some deep psychological urge to self-actualize their own mortality?
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:32:52 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
To: luckydevi
This is only food for thought, but I hope all here on this thread will take the time to look at a real-life scenario: my mom.
Mom is 76 years old, widowed, and living entirely on SS. (My father had no retirement plan & left her in some financial straits that took me several years to pay off after his death.)
Her monthly check is not quite $900. She is a cancer survivor, but still has other medical problems which require nearly $300 in meds monthly. Due to numerous hospitalizations (and the inherent co-pays that Medicare does not cover), she pays $130 monthly for supplemental insurance. So nearly half of her money is "gone" before we even begin to address the issues of normal living expenses.
Needless to say, my brother and I supplement her income as best we can just so she can continue to to lead a fairly comfortable existence, but it's HARD on all involved.
There are no easy answers. I know that it won't be long before she will have to move in with me, but she wants to remain independent as long as she can.
Please don't think I'm complaining; Mom has sacrificed all her life to provide for her family. It's the least I can do to see that she is provided for in her advancing years.
To: wtc911
Of course you had no idea. It is not in your nature to take into account anything but your own self - this is the defining trait of the boomer generation.
I, on the other hand, know quite well the psychology of boomer denial. What you don't seem to understand is that the world you take for granted - one in which human life is respected - is not the one you passed along. I have been giving you a heads-up on an inevitable and extremely rude awakening.
But of course it is not in your nature to even consider the possibility - the cargo-cult nature of the boomer-parented family simply doesn't permit it any more than it permitted a Pacific Islander to understand factories, airplanes and supply lines.
I *should* know better than to imagine you would react in any other way than you have, but if you've found your way to FR then the probability was greater than average that you'd get it. Hope you will before it's too late.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:43:58 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
To: Mr. Bird
Remember that stupid *itch Pat Schroeder from CO? She proposed levying an across the board 10% taking on everyones 401K and IRA when she was in office!
I hope she's having an uncomfortable retirement...
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:50:19 PM PST
by
Axenolith
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