Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party

vanity ^ | 12/17/03 | Destro

[Destro]

In a discussion on this thread Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire a post regarding the conservative angst about the recent campaign finance reform that Bush signed into law and that the Supreme Court approved (and the approval was praised by the White House), on the heals of the Medicare entitlement enacted under a Republican controlled government the following was posted:

I'm hearing Rush now. He claims the republicans have ONLY one party to go to. He has put this issue squarely on the problem. We need to vote outside of this corrupt party apparatus.

12 posted on 12/11/2003 12:39:52 PM EST by Digger

I also heard this on Rush and my blood boiled. Rush said conservatives have no place else to go and thus will continue to vote as a block to the Republicans.....and then it hit me. That is exactly what we conservatives lament about Blacks and the Democratic party. Black Democrats who vote straight Democratic and are rewarded by being ignored.

In other words, Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party!!!

I urge the same solution to Republican conservatives that Black conservatives offer to Black Democrats. QUIT! Become independents and let the parties fight for our votes. If we can't take the GOP back we should leave the GOP.

I did not change. My party did. I thank God Ronald Reagan is unable to comprehend what is happening to the party he saved.

[Texas Federalist]

The Texas Republican party is a true conservative party and I am extremely satisfied with their performance. Have you ever read the Texas State Republican Party Platform -- amazing. However, the national party is nothing resembling what we are used to in Texas. It makes sense to think of the national and Texas Republican parties as separate entities and don't let your positive or negative perception of one affect your perception of the other.

[exmarine]

If your vote was the DECIDING VOTE in Florida between Bush and Gore in 2000, and you could have vote Bush in for the win, or 3rd party and let Gore win --- WHAT WAY WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED?

I voted for Bush in 2000, but I won't make that mistake again. He's a globalist and a big govt. liberal.

[MEG33]

YAWN

[Destro]

drink some coffee.

[MEG33]

That is a yawn caffeine won't cure.Aren't you busy working on the "Free Milosevic" committee?

[Destro]

Damn right! FREE SLOBO!!! That should be the battle cry of every conservative-and if you can't figure out why you are not a true conservative.

[Naspino]

If what 581 Floridans had your idea in 2000 Al Gore would be president. LIKE IT OR NOT. A vote against Bush IS A VOTE FOR DEAN. You people are incredibly naive about whether DEAN or BUSH is president DOESN'T MATTER. IT DOES.

[Naspino]

If your vote was the DECIDING VOTE in Florida between Bush and Gore in 2000, and you could have vote Bush in for the win, or 3rd party and let Gore win --- WHAT WAY WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED?

I voted for Bush in 2000, but I won't make that mistake again. He's a globalist and a big govt. liberal.

Let me correct your post. "I voted for Bush in 2000 but I'm going to piss my vote away in 2004 and support Dean." -- I don't know what is worse a liberal or a conservative that supports them.

[MEG33]

This American is celebrating the capture of Saddam.Great job 4th ID!

[MEG33]

Ever watch a child throw a tantrum and end up hurting himself in the process?

[Destro]

Another reason why I was so pleased with what Bush said was that he refused to hand over Saddam to an international court the way Clinton did for Milosevic. Not that I like Milosevic, but inventing a court that destroys national sovereignty is allowing a bad precedent. Saddam did his crime to Iraq and in Iraq he should be judge just like Milosevic should be judged in Serbia not at some U.N. kangaroo court. FREE SLOBO!! (and then try him in Serbia).

[MEG33]

You think Slobo should have been tried in Bosnia or Kosovo?

[Naspino]

Ever watch a child throw a tantrum and end up hurting himself in the process?

Yes and I don't understand why people are willing to give their vote away. I agree that a more conservative president would be nice -- and when we get one I'm sure the same people will be complaining about something else.

These people want a president from a candidate unable to beat Dean -- an egg without a chicken. Find the chicken first dammit.

[exmarine]

Let me correct your post. "I voted for Bush in 2000 but I'm going to piss my vote away in 2004 and support Dean." -- I don't know what is worse a liberal or a conservative that supports them.

Haha. Is that all you got? How intelligent and concise. It's obvious you have NO ANSWER for Bush's shortcomings, but you give him your BLIND LOYALTY anyway. Care to debate the issues chief? Oops...I forgot....Bushbots don't debate issues....they just insult. But I don't blame you...I realize you have limited intelligence.

But just in case a ray of light might get through that brick of a head of yours, a vote for the RIGHT candidate is not a vote for Dean. You can repeat that one million time sand it won't be any true then that it is now. It's a bogus argument. Dean can get elected IF AND ONLY IF a HUGE number of amoral moronic Americans vote for him! So, blame America for its immorality if that happens.

Oh, and by the way, I'll tell you what a waste of a vote is - voting for a man who IGNORES THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!! THAT WOULD BE BUSH! I suggest you send him a copy of his oath that he took in Jan. 2001 as a reminder that he swore to defend and protect it, not dismantle it!

[Naspino]

It's a bogus argument. Dean can get elected IF AND ONLY IF a HUGE number of amoral moronic Americans vote for him! So, blame America for its immorality if that happens

BS. Its not a bogus argument. The person with the MOST electoral votes wins. We barely won in 2000 with a major percent of the vote for the DNC going GREEN. If those people wake up and realize they sacrificed their liberal ideals for 4 years and come back to the DNC then we're in trouble.

It certainly won't help when SUPPOSED conservatives piss away their vote on someone without a chance in hell of winning. Like I said I don't what is worse the people over at DU or the conservatives here that are going to help them get Dean in the Whitehouse.

[exmarine]

BS. Its not a bogus argument. The person with the MOST electoral votes wins. We barely won in 2000 with a major percent of the vote for the DNC going GREEN. If those people wake up and realize they sacrificed their liberal ideals for 4 years and come back to the DNC then we're in trouble.

Try to concentrate. Dean can't get elected unless HUGE number of people vote for him. Do you understand the concept? I know all about the electoral college. I have more conservatism in my little finger than Bush does in his whole body. The difference between you and I is: I am a PRINCIPLED conservative - I vote MORAL PRINCIPLE ONLY. You vote for whoever has the R after their name.

I vote for the BEST candidate and leave the result up to God. He is in control and expects me to vote for the most moral candidate who best represents biblical views. Sue me if you don't like it.

It certainly won't help when SUPPOSED conservatives piss away their vote on someone without a chance in hell of winning. Like I said I don't what is worse the people over at DU or the conservatives here that are going to help them get Dean in the Whitehouse.

Again, if Dean is elected, it will be because tens of millions of idiotic AMERICANS voted for him. Blame your immoral countrymen in that case. Or blame your candidate who doesn't understand what "conservative" means.

[MEGoody]

"It's easier to ignore the truth than have to accept it. I'm not saying I'll never vote republicrat again, but I am highly motivated to split this gubermint."

Split this gubermint? You mean leave the country?

If so, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[MEGoody]

"Bushbots don't debate issues....they just insult. But I don't blame you...I realize you have limited intelligence."

Hello, pot. This is kettle. You are black.

[Naspino]

Try to concentrate. Dean can't get elected unless HUGE number of people vote for him.

What is HUGE? If you mean 50+ million more than the constitution party will get then I agree. We have a two party system. Put your effort in off election years of education people and when their numbers poll above or near the DNC then I'll vote with you. Till then I'm not a Bushbot I'm and anti-Deanbot. I do NOT WANT to live under 4 years of Dean.

I vote for the BEST candidate and leave the result up to God. He is in control and expects me to vote for the most moral candidate who best represents biblical views. Sue me if you don't like it.

You know if God is calling you to help subject 280 million people to 4 more years of rampant liberalism then go for it -- but you'd be happier over at the DU during those 4 years.

Again, if Dean is elected, it will be because tens of millions of idiotic AMERICANS voted for him. Blame your immoral countrymen in that case. Or blame your candidate who doesn't understand what "conservative" means.

If its close I'll blame people like you who are blind to reality and hide behind nothing but a persona of principle.

[exmarine]

Hello, pot. This is kettle. You are black.

I'm not a bushbot, but I can defend myself quite well when attacked, and reserve the right to do so. The FACT is that the Bushies in this forum are incapable of defending their hero on the basis of the actual issues, so sometimes it is necessary to communicate to them in form they can understand, even if I do have to stoop to their intellectual level.