Africa isn’t dying of Aids

The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 12/13/03 | Rian Malan

[AdamSelene235]

Interesting article. I was a bit disappointed that he didn't address the claim that AIDS in Africa is of a different strain from those elsewhere and is easily transmitted through heterosexual intercourse.

Right.

Some how this magical pathogen knows if you're gay, or if you're an IV drug user or an African. Seen any Africans or IV drug users with Kaposi's sarcoma. See the links in post 15.

[Van Jenerette]

...for later reading.

[AdamSelene235]

BTW, "research" is pointless. HIV mutates fast, faster than the flu virus - an effective vacine will not be found.

Has anyone even demonstrated the cytotoxicity of HIV to CD4's. You have to sort through hundreds of cd4s just to *find* HIV and even then nobody has ever demonstrated cytotoxicity.

"If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There is no such document."

-Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry:

"HIV is an ordinary retrovirus. There is nothing about this virus that is unique. Everything that is discovered about HIV has an analogue in other retroviruses that don't cause AIDS. HIV only contains a very small piece of genetic information. There's no way it can do all these elaborate things they say it does."

-Dr. Roger Cunningham, Immunologist, Microbiologist and Director of the Centre for Immunology at the State University of New York at Buffalo:

"AIDS is a behavioural disease. It is multifactorial, brought on by several simultaneous strains on the immune system - drugs, pharmaceutical and recreational, sexually transmitted diseases, multiple viral infections."

-Dr. Alfred Hässig, (1921-1999), former Professor of Immunology at the University of Bern, and former director Swiss Red Cross blood banks:

THE MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT VS. THE TRUTH

[g'nad]

ping... excellent article...

[scripter]

Thanks for the ping, ER.

From the article:

The Aids establishment, says Sonnabend, is extremely skilled at ‘the manipulation of fear for advancement in terms of money and power’.
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I think it is time to start questioning some of the claims made by the Aids lobby.

Additional links on AIDS and Africa:

Anal Sex Largest Cause of HIV in Africa
African Women and AIDS
African sexual health programmes "misguided"

[Da_Shrimp]

Arguments-to-use-against-socialists-of-my-acquaintance placemarker

[xzins]

Former issue of discussion.

Strong ping.

[cherry]

Don't ever , ever question the AIDS lobby....it will be an exercise in futility....

all of a sudden there will be this huge unified voice of condemnation, and ridicule.....you will be branded an unprincipled racist Christian fundamentalist ( oh no...not thatttt!).

I have been waiting for the big "die-off " for many years...it has never happened, and the death rates in poor countries in Africa and Asia certainly are nothing to brag about, but I personally think they are no higher than 30 or 40 years ago... and that even without the DX of AIDS, people would probably still be dying at similar rates....(malaria and gastroenteritis are big killers in Third world countries)

the powers that be have so expanded the definition of what constitutes AIDS that more and more people are conveniently fitting into the category....

people are dying of HIV in Africa the way people are dying here in America from the "flu".....

which means, that the flu is not the killer, its all the other germs that attack your weakened system....

[eleni121]

Thanks for posting this excellent article.

To hear them talk, Aids is the only problem in Africa, and the only solution is to continue the agitprop until free access to Aids drugs is defined as a ‘basic human right’ for everyone

Of course libertine behavior is partly reponssible for the increase in AIDS infection...but there is another infection and that is the corrupt brutal leadership throughout Africa (not all) that confiscates fruitful farms because they are owned by whites as in Zimbabwe by the despicably self interested monster Mobutu and completely mad leaders such as we have seen in Sudan (genocide) and South Africa etc.

[longtermmemmory]

There is good money to be made in the AIDS industry. I bet a nice chunk of the AIDS money is intended as part of US payoffs to Gov. officials. Just a discreet way of hiding it.

If you want the full story on AIDS you have to dig for the real numbers. There was a link here on FR to the CDC which showed that 90+% of all new aids cases were in homosexual males. That is not reported.

Now we have commercials showing lonely mother and fatherless children. The commercial says that in africa the number of Aids dead parents would have left every child under 5 an orphan. The implication being to get away from the prevalance of homosexuals in the Aids infected population.

This is NOT to say that AIDS is an equal opportunity infector. Aids will infect anyone conducting at risk behavior with the wrong person.

I don't believe we should publicly lie about what and who is MOST likely to spread the disease.

[longtermmemmory]

clarification

This:"This is NOT to say that AIDS is an equal opportunity infector. Aids will infect anyone conducting at risk behavior with the wrong person. "

for this:

"This is NOT to say that AIDS is not an equal opportunity infector. (it is and equal infector) Aids will infect anyone conducting at risk behavior with the wrong person. "

[highlander_UW]

In the 80's they kept saying that huge numbers of Americans of all kinds would get HIV and die. 10% 20% up and up...

Is this why the democrats are a party in decline?

[Gothmog]

Yep

[AuH2ORepublican]

Great article! Should be required reading before allowing people to vote.

[lainde]

bttt

[George W. Bush]

A good summary of info we've all unearthed from other sources as I'm sure you recall.

Some more recent studies just published continue to uphold the population numbers and the numbers on child health in these so-call 'AIDS-ravaged' areas.

[TheMole]

In the 80's they kept saying that huge numbers of Americans of all kinds would get HIV and die.

Actually, I believe that it was as late as 1993 that Donna Shalala, then Bill Clinton's HHS Secretary said "we might not have any Americans left unless we're prepared to confront the crisis of AIDS". Of course that's all down the memory hole now.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[UnklGene]

To hear them talk, Aids is the only problem in Africa, and the only solution is to continue the agitprop until free access to Aids drugs is defined as a ‘basic human right’ for everyone. They are saying, in effect, that because Mr Mhlangu of rural Zambia has a disease they find more compelling than any other, someone must spend upwards of $400 a year to provide Mr Mhlangu with life-extending Aids medication — a noble idea, on its face, but completely demented when you consider that Mr Mhlangu’s neighbours are likely to be dying in much larger numbers of diseases that could be cured for a few cents if medicines were only available. About 350 million Africans — nearly half the population — get malaria every year, but malaria medication is not a basic human right. Two million get TB, but last time I checked, spending on Aids research exceeded spending on TB by a crushing factor of 90 to one. As for pneumonia, cancer, dysentery or diabetes, let them take aspirin, or grub in the bush for medicinal herbs.

Billions for AIDS, but not one cent for DDT.