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Hillary Aides in Dean-bashing Blitz
NewsMax.com ^ | 12/11/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 12/11/2003 12:25:24 AM PST by kattracks

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has launched a behind-the-scenes campaign to pressure fellow Democrats not to support presidential front-runner Howard Dean – a move some say raises new questions about her own intentions in 2004.

Aides to Sen. Clinton have begun contacting party movers and shakers in a bid to discredit Dean and dispel the notion that the Vermont Democrat has the nomination sewn up.

"Hillary Clinton's people – and I know, I get these calls all the time – call and bash on Dean," Democratic strategist Bob Beckel told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" late Wednesday. Beckel managed Walter Mondale's unsuccessful 1984 presidential bid.

Mrs. Clinton's husband has apparently joined in the effort, with the Rev. Al Sharpton revealing late Wednesday that he was contacted by the former president in the wake of Al Gore's endorsement of Dean.

Sharpton, however, denied to MSNBC's "Hardball" that the top Democrat engaged in any Dean trashing. "President Clinton has not talked to me about a battle with the Gore[-Dean] gang. President Clinton and I, as he has with other candidates, talked about how you beat George Bush."

Still, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday that Clinton doubts Dean will be able to transform himself into a centrist candidate who can win votes in the Midwest and South. Democrats "close" to Clinton have "grown increasingly critical" of Dean, added the Washington Times.

Democratic National Committee Chairman and Clinton confidant Terry McAuliffe said Tuesday that "he was shocked" by Gore's decision to back the Vermont Democrat. While acknowledging that the endorsement was "a tremendous boost for Governor Dean," he warned on CNN, "it does not, however, mean that Dean has the nomination wrapped up."

Even before Gore's surprise Dean endorsement, at least two former senior Clinton aides were publicly blasting Dean as unelectable. Former White House chief of staff Leon Panetta told the Washington Times over the Thanksgiving weekend, "There clearly are concerns about Dean's ability to appeal to the entire country, particularly on national security issues."

A week before, former Clinton deputy White House chief of staff Harold Ickes slammed Dean to Time magazine, complaining that the Democratic front-runner was "quick of lip, and quick of temper and stubborn."

Ickes also seized on Dean's comments about wanting the votes of Confederate flag-bearing Southerners, saying, "In another time, the Confederate-flag story would have taken him down the drain."

The Clinton camp's anti-Dean blitzkrieg had one longtime Clinton watcher scratching his head. "If the Clintons want the Dems to lose next year so Hillary has a shot at an open seat in '08, they should be happy that Dean looks like a sure loser," he told NewsMax on background. "If that's the strategy, they should be boosting Dean, not bashing him."

Meanwhile, an organization formed to draft Sen. Clinton into the presidential race announced plans this week to launch an advertising blitz in New Hampshire urging Granite State Democats to write in Sen. Clinton's name in the state's Jan. 27 primary.

HillaryNow.com organizer Bob Kunst told the New York Sun he plans to run 60 television commercials in three New Hampshire cities this week on Sen. Clinton's behalf. Though the commercials won't be expensive prime-time productions - they're slated to run after midnight on CNN's Headline News channel - it's not clear how Kunst was able to finance such a substantial media buy.

Kunst told the Sun he is encouraged that Mrs. Clinton, who has denied she wants to run next year, has made no effort to shut him down.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; clinton; hillary; hillaryism; howarddean; stopdean; stophillary; traitor
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1 posted on 12/11/2003 12:25:24 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Hmmmm .. maybe this is why Gore looked so bad when he announced his endorsement of Dean

He knew he just committed suicide and the Clinton's won't forget it
2 posted on 12/11/2003 12:32:37 AM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: kattracks; Miss Marple
The RATS civil war has begun. Dean/Algore versus the Clintons. This is going to be fun.
3 posted on 12/11/2003 12:39:32 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (...And second prize goes to Kenny, for his Edward James Olmos impersonation!)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
One can but hope.
4 posted on 12/11/2003 12:56:18 AM PST by DeuceTraveler
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To: kattracks
Man, I love it.

Still, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday that Clinton doubts Dean will be able to transform himself into a centrist candidate who can win votes in the Midwest and South...

And

Former White House chief of staff Leon Panetta told the Washington Times over the Thanksgiving weekend, "There clearly are concerns about Dean's ability to appeal to the entire country, particularly on national security issues."

I see these as indirect references to Wesley Clark being a better option in the Clintons' view.

The Clinton camp's anti-Dean blitzkrieg had one longtime Clinton watcher scratching his head. "If the Clintons want the Dems to lose next year so Hillary has a shot at an open seat in '08, they should be happy that Dean looks like a sure loser," he told NewsMax on background. "If that's the strategy, they should be boosting Dean, not bashing him."

Yeah and like he's not doing his part in bashing Dean with that statement there.

5 posted on 12/11/2003 12:59:36 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: kattracks
and I know, I get these calls all the time – call and bash on Dean," Democratic strategist Bob Beckel told Fox News

Bob, we all know what kind of phone calls you make and get. 1-900-Hot-Time

6 posted on 12/11/2003 1:24:01 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: kattracks
There's good sense in this article, although nobody really knows where Gore's brains are. Probably floating around on the planet Twilo, but he IS a politician, albeit a weird one. The Dean endorsement could be just another drift in his nebulous irrelevancy, or Gore's pretending to be a player this week and this is what real players tell him he should do to position himself and thwart Billary the Bicephalic Creature.
If I were Dean, I'd rather be kissed by Rappacini's daughter. This endorsement is likely to blight his candidacy, which is already thoroughly pocked by gay unions and deep-sixed records, pro-choice and foreign policy idiocy.
Gore, of course, still craves the presidency. He despises Clinton and can't ever say so unless he matches the accomplishment first. But does he want to run in 2004? He couldn't beat Bush before, he sure couldn't now.
Most likely, if he's doing a political thing, he's looking at Dean as a loser---"but he's MY loser."
7 posted on 12/11/2003 1:56:35 AM PST by Graymatter (Let's issue a new $40 bill to honor our 40th president)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The RATS civil war has begun. Dean/Algore versus the Clintons. This is going to be fun.

As Harvey Logan in 'Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid' said to Butch, "Guns or knives, Butch, guns or knives!"

"I don't want to fight with you, Harvey. First we gotta get the rules straight." Harvey; "Rules? There's no in a knife fight."

Yes, this gets better every day. Ickes, Sharpton, McAuliffe, Hillary, Panetta, what a crowd! This is better than a good movie.

8 posted on 12/11/2003 2:07:33 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
"There's no RULES in a knife fight." oops!
9 posted on 12/11/2003 2:08:46 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: kattracks
I wonder if she's throwing ashtrays again.
10 posted on 12/11/2003 2:11:19 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Graymatter
As much fun as it is to watch the Democrat party in a cannibalistic feeding frenzy, Gore's move sure is a head-scratcher. I first thought that it was a pro-Clinton ploy, so she could be drawn RELUCTANTLY into a VP slot (but maybe Dean realizes his life expectancy would then just about match that of a 2nd LT in Viet Nam). But the Clinton/McAuliffe actions against Dean seem to argue against that. Gore still peeved against Clinton, and trying to spite that camp? Or maybe being willing to take one for the team and back an expected loser against Bush to keep the field open in 2004 for H to dash onto the scene? I don't see him as that selfless.

Ya just gotta wonder . . . .
11 posted on 12/11/2003 2:11:36 AM PST by Quiller
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Ha! Juan Williams dissing Gore on Fox right now. Says that the long knoves are out in DC because of Gore stabbing Lieberman in the back. Clintons are mad at Gore, everyone is after Dean, etc. etc. Excellent.

If Dean is stopped, his cult-like supporters will stay home or go to the Greens.

12 posted on 12/11/2003 4:20:59 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: kattracks
Let's not get overconfident. This is a problem due to the new restrictions on criticizing candidates prior to an election or primary. This is how Brunhilda needs it--don't make her face dissent :(

She won't go on Fox, because she can't help herself from making herself look really bad.
13 posted on 12/11/2003 4:23:55 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Miss Marple
I thought it was interesting when Juan talked about how conservative Dean is on many issues. It is gonna be like watching a game of Twister to see how the Dems try to get Dean back to the middle for the election if he is the Dems nominee.
14 posted on 12/11/2003 4:31:27 AM PST by babaloo
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To: kattracks
It seems strange to see the Democraps running a campaign from the Republican Campaign Practices Handbook!
15 posted on 12/11/2003 4:37:41 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: kattracks
HillaryNow.com organizer Bob Kunst told the New York Sun he plans to run 60 television commercials in three New Hampshire cities this week on Sen. Clinton's behalf. ...it's not clear how Kunst was able to finance such a substantial media buy.

Not clear?! Yagottabekiddin'...this is the CLINTONS, silly boy.

16 posted on 12/11/2003 4:38:08 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Graymatter
although nobody really knows where Gore's brains are.

That might be the problem...high SATs and all, maybe the part of the brain that makes good decisions is in atrophy. There's a process that's supposed to go on, through the primaries, that ensures that the candidate gains strength and campaigning skills by the time of the nomination. Going through that process probably helped GWB develop as a candidate.

AlGore had a coronation, not the process of fighting for the nomination. He just didn't have it together, and he chose a VP who'd never been part of the national scene. No process, lousy VP choice, no victory.

So, why would he want to do something that he must've hoped would make Dean a shoo-in? If the process is short-circuited like this, Dean will be a sure-fire disaster with all of his misstatements about his own positions and personal weaknesses. The Dems (and in no poll does Dean rise to majority) will be fed up...it looked like it just might have been an interesting convention with some Pres-VP coming out of it that would be a true consensus slate that the voters, not the party, chose.

Yeah, that's it, AlGore must be just plain dumb.

17 posted on 12/11/2003 4:44:58 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: grania
algore also sold his soul to the devil and had the clintgoon's ickiness all over him.
18 posted on 12/11/2003 5:10:15 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: kattracks
"In another time, the Confederate-flag story would have taken him down the drain."

Nevermind another time, another party would be all it would take.

19 posted on 12/11/2003 5:15:48 AM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: kattracks
Democratic National Committee Chairman and Clinton confidant Terry McAuliffe said Tuesday that "he was shocked" by Gore's decision to back the Vermont Democrat.
LOL! Clueless Terry.
20 posted on 12/11/2003 5:16:27 AM PST by Carolina
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