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Gore Stumbles Onstage Way Too Early
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 12/10/03 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 12/10/2003 7:02:58 PM PST by shortstop

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This was on the editorial page of the St. Petersburg Times today, but not on the online edition. When I last checked, it was not posted on the Creators Syndicate site either. Watch for this on Creator's Syndicate site in the next day or two. I thought it was good enough to type it and post it on FreeRepublic. Enjoy.
1 posted on 12/10/2003 7:02:59 PM PST by shortstop
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Many thanks for your efforts! This was WELL worth reading!
2 posted on 12/10/2003 7:08:47 PM PST by JennysCool
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Democrats have eliminated winner-take-all??

That jusy makes this more fun to watch!

3 posted on 12/10/2003 7:09:47 PM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: shortstop
Saya a ot about Gore's character. I used to think he was at least better than Hillary. No such.
4 posted on 12/10/2003 7:09:52 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: shortstop
Thanks for putting it all down
5 posted on 12/10/2003 7:10:41 PM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: shortstop
I thought it was good enough to type it and post it on FreeRepublic. Enjoy.

Good read. I sometimes wonder if I'm living in some alternative universe, when I find myself agreeing more and more with Susan Estrich. The fact that the St. Pete Times actually ran this reinforces that feeling.,

6 posted on 12/10/2003 7:12:07 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: shortstop
Pow - right in the kisser!

Gore throwing his support to Dean at this hour were the embarrassing flailings of a dolt trying desperately to avoid his free fall into insignificance.

It's ineptness was only surpassed by the mainstream media's attempt to make it significant.

Shame on all of them.

7 posted on 12/10/2003 7:13:19 PM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Bill raped, Monica swallowed, Hillary totally sucks.)
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My first thoughts exactly- Susan Estrich wrote this!?!?!?!?
8 posted on 12/10/2003 7:13:30 PM PST by lawgirl (God to womankind: "Here's Cary Grant. Now don't say I never gave you anything.")
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To: shortstop
thought it was good enough to type it and post it on FreeRepublic. Enjoy.

Thanks for your hard work.

I was flabbergasted to read the byline.

9 posted on 12/10/2003 7:14:06 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: shortstop
Al Gore could have played that role- now someone else will have to.

Cue Hillary's entrance, next spring.

10 posted on 12/10/2003 7:15:54 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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Susan Estrich has been somewhat critical of her fellow Dems lately, especially the ones on the campaign trail.
11 posted on 12/10/2003 7:16:32 PM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Gore throwing his support to Dean at this hour were the embarrassing flailings of a dolt trying desperately to avoid his free fall into insignificance.

I don't think Gore was endorsing a presidential candidate. On the contrary, I think he was throwing his weight behind the next potential leader of the DNC. IMO, there's a great power struggle for the DNC leadership going on behind the scenes and Gore shot the first public salvo. I'm waiting with great anticipation to see what the HMS Clinton fires back.

12 posted on 12/10/2003 7:21:09 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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wow you the man! thanks for your hard work. very good article.
13 posted on 12/10/2003 7:25:07 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: lawgirl
Estrich is often misguided, but she seems to be intellectually honest. There is at least some hope for such people. It is working for Tammy Bruce.
14 posted on 12/10/2003 7:25:21 PM PST by speedy
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To: shortstop
Susie's pulling for Hillary so hard it's affected her judgment. The voters turn out to be the very last people to choose a candidate in the Democratic party and she knows that perfectly well, she helped make it that way. What's bothering Estrich is the spectre of a Clinton wing loss of control over the entire Democratic party for the length of at least a year, and if Dean is successful, at least five, if not permanently.

I don't see Hill running second banana to Dean under any circumstances, although if she's smart she'd consider just that. But not that ego, I just don't see it. Which means that Dean must be defeated or defanged, and Algore's defection makes it considerably more difficult for her chosen instrument for that, Wes Clark, to accomplish his mission. From her point of view Dean mustn't get the nomination at all, because if he does she ends up working against her party in a presidential election or risks spending 2008 working on Dean's re-election campaign.

I'm just glad I'm out of ash-tray range.

15 posted on 12/10/2003 7:25:22 PM PST by Billthedrill
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I sometimes wonder if I'm living in some alternative universe, when I find myself agreeing more and more with Susan Estrich.

Naahh. She's just finally joining the Zel Miller wing of the Democrat party. I think she has the same distates for the Clintons as does Dick Morris.

-PJ

16 posted on 12/10/2003 7:27:40 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: shortstop
The problem with the Democratic rules, and I know because I both wrote many of them and suffered under them, is that it can take too long even for a winner to amass the number of delegates necessary to cement the nomination. Because the Democrats have eliminated winner-take-all primaries, because minor candidates can stay in the race and continue to collect delegates, there becomes a point in the process when you need party leaders to declare the process ended, even if no one has literally won a majority yet. Al Gore could have played that role- now someone else will have to.

Another poster once wrote a theory on Hillary!'s strategy given that she is not running in any primaries and the deadlines to file are coming up fast (or have already passed). The strategy is that the convention delegates are bound, by rules, to their respective candidates FOR THE FIRST ROUND ONLY. If no nominee wins the first round of voting, then the delegates are free to vote for whomever they wish. That is when Hillary! steps in to take the nomination.

It may be that Gore unintentionally made that possibility more likely to occur.

-PJ

17 posted on 12/10/2003 7:33:53 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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Huh? Susan Estrich has been writing and saying that the Clintons need to let go if the Democrats are going to succeed again someday.

Susan Estrich: Hillary Clinton absolutely unelectable

Op/Ed by Susan Estrich is surprisingly candid about X42 and Hillary

18 posted on 12/10/2003 7:37:52 PM PST by LenS
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To: shortstop
Estrich is so mad about this that the other night on FNC's Special Report she even used the term "piss off" while talking about it.
19 posted on 12/10/2003 7:37:52 PM PST by squidly
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There is one school of thought that says that the Goron endorsed Dean so that he would not have to endorse Hitlery.
20 posted on 12/10/2003 7:38:32 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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