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To: shortstop
Susie's pulling for Hillary so hard it's affected her judgment. The voters turn out to be the very last people to choose a candidate in the Democratic party and she knows that perfectly well, she helped make it that way. What's bothering Estrich is the spectre of a Clinton wing loss of control over the entire Democratic party for the length of at least a year, and if Dean is successful, at least five, if not permanently.

I don't see Hill running second banana to Dean under any circumstances, although if she's smart she'd consider just that. But not that ego, I just don't see it. Which means that Dean must be defeated or defanged, and Algore's defection makes it considerably more difficult for her chosen instrument for that, Wes Clark, to accomplish his mission. From her point of view Dean mustn't get the nomination at all, because if he does she ends up working against her party in a presidential election or risks spending 2008 working on Dean's re-election campaign.

I'm just glad I'm out of ash-tray range.

15 posted on 12/10/2003 7:25:22 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Huh? Susan Estrich has been writing and saying that the Clintons need to let go if the Democrats are going to succeed again someday.

Susan Estrich: Hillary Clinton absolutely unelectable

Op/Ed by Susan Estrich is surprisingly candid about X42 and Hillary

18 posted on 12/10/2003 7:37:52 PM PST by LenS
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To: Billthedrill
Ms. Estrich likes the Clintons, but she's been saying for months now that Hillary needs to remain a Senator (she thinks Hillary can be a great Senator) and that Bill needs to stay out of the spotlight and let others have their turn.
21 posted on 12/10/2003 7:40:00 PM PST by LenS
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To: Billthedrill
**Susie's pulling for Hillary so hard it's affected her judgment.** Here's another St. Pete Times article by Susan Estrich which contradicts your statement. She's no fan of the Clintons: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/912091/posts
22 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:01 PM PST by shortstop ( Win One For the Gipper)
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To: Billthedrill
What's bothering Estrich is the spectre of a Clinton wing loss of control over the entire Democratic party for the length of at least a year, and if Dean is successful, at least five, if not permanently.

I think you hit the nail on the head and it's scaring the Clintons to no end now that it's obvious that their puppet Clark isn't going anywhere.

You're right about Hillary too. She has tasted the power of the Presidency and she isn't about to play second fiddle to anybody.

42 posted on 12/10/2003 8:34:52 PM PST by Holly_P
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