"Bush signs campaign finance law" (An oldie but goodie for you BushBots! Have a nice day!)

various wire reports, via Japan today ^ | March 28, 2002 | AP via Japan Today

[NittanyLion]

I'll tell you one thing I'd like to see accomplished. When CFR was passed, many people told me this was a brilliant political play. The detrimental portions would be struck down, and all that would remain are parts beneficial to the GOP. Within the last week, folks are telling me that the latest Prescription Drug Plan will surely bring privatization to Medicare.

Both claims are against all historical precedent. If nothing else, I'd be happy if conservatives understand that an endorsement of liberal policy is generally just that, as opposed to "strategery".

[truthandlife]

Make sure to tell him how you feel. These emails are tallied more than anything over at the White House. This is what happens when you listen to a political consultant (Karl Rove) instead of your gut.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/webmail

[bvw]

You must have taken the Howard Ickes "Parse This Now" course. Sure seem like a full graduate.

[sinkspur]

What do people think they accomplish by making this point?)

It's churchillbuff; he's one of the premier "baiters" on this website.

In fact, he's a master baiter.

[Dr. Frank fan]

[the "Bush walks on water" freepers, Who are they?] Look in the mirror

But I'm not a "Bush walks on water freeper". Again: I agreed that Bush is not perfect, human, etc. Did you read my post?

and at the other posters who will flame me.

I didn't flame you. You'd know if I had.

As for other posters who may end up flaming you, I don't agree that if someone flames you, it proves they think that Bush walks on water.

Flaming a person for inventing and attacking a ridiculous straw-man (the concept of "Bush walks on water freepers") is not the same thing as thinking GW Bush walks on water.

[churchillbuff]

This is what happens when you listen to a political consultant (Karl Rove) instead of your gut.

Or maybe when you're a liberal at heart, or don't have any conservative instincts to speak of.

[Pubbie]

4 million Evangelical "Conservatives" stayed home in the 2000 election and nearly helped elect President Gore - but that would have been much better than Bush because Gore didn't support CFR like Bush did - Oh Wait -....

[ladyinred]

(What do people think they accomplish by making this point?)

I have wondered that myself. It is amazing how many of them there are here too. I assume they are mostly those who are for 3rd parties. They expect a President who does every single thing exactly how they want it. Just amazing to me. The bad thing is, what damage they can do , and we could end up with a Hillary or a Dean in charge, and then what?

[CyberCowboy777]

Even Churchill was a liberal once.

Worked on some stupid legislation - but I would not have traded him for Chamberlain during WWII.

[uncbob]

I don't think you will be seeing
JONH HUANG2
on this thread re-explaining how it was a masterful political stoke by Bush

[Digger]

It's a good thing that the U of Nebraska didn't hire GW. Their football coach goes 9-3 (.750) & gets fired. This guy goes 5-7 & is praised by the sheeple. Better tell that coach to get a cushie profession & run for pres. (BTW, the athletic director stated that it wasn't wins & losses but the direction that the program was going in. Are you truly satisfied with the direction GW is taking us? Now be truthful).

[Dr. Frank fan]

If nothing else, I'd be happy if conservatives understand that an endorsement of liberal policy is generally just that, as opposed to "strategery".

I think that most conservatives do understand that.

Granted, many Republicans may not.

[churchillbuff]

I agreed that Bush is not perfect, human

He's a coward --- that makes him human, you're right, but it doesn't make him a conservative leader. (And don't tell me how he's fighting Saddam - - - it doesn't take any courage to fight against somebody who everyone hates)

[ex-snook]

"What are you more afraid of? Voting your conscious, "wasting" your vote, or going with the old "lesser of two evils" idea? "

If jobs don't increase, troop deaths continue in Iraq and the alert flag is still raised, maybe people will jump to Dean (or?) as the lesser of two evils. Since choosing the lesser is the only game in town.

[Dr. Frank fan]

You must have taken the Howard Ickes "Parse This Now" course. Sure seem like a full graduate.

I'd ask you just who the heck you think "Howard Ickes" is if this post actually contained enough substance to be worth discussing further.

[uncbob]

Reagan wasn't perfect either - even he passed some dumb laws -

Yeah he did like naming O'Connor to the SCOTUS for PC reasons and in establishing MLK as a holiday for the same reason BUT overall he was a hell of a lot more conservative than either Bush

[churchillbuff]

Worked on some stupid legislation - but I would not have traded him for Chamberlain during WWII.

You've proved my point. Because Bush is fighting Saddam (as if that takes courage - - as if there's more than 1000 people in America who don't hate Saddam) you'll give him a pass as he grows the size of government, and our children's tax burden, more than Clinton did - - and signs a law making it a crime to advertise against incumbent candidates. By the way, Saddam would love that law!

[uncbob]

Bush, like almost everyone else, was sure the Supremes would throw most of this out. He thought it was a harmless 'feel good' bill, like pardoning the Whitehouse Turkey at Thanksgiving. He was wrong. I was wrong. The ACLU was wrong. The Media was wrong.

And there were a hell of a lot of posters here who got insulted by other members for warning about this fiasco

[Paul Atreides]

(And don't tell me how he's fighting Saddam - - - it doesn't take any courage to fight against somebody who everyone hates)

Apparently, it does. Do you think a President Gore would have done it? What about Bubba, or Jimmy Carter?

[Digger]

I am sick of fighting. If we want socialism, let's try it in earnest for a few years, and let the voters decide in 2008 if they want to keep it or elect conservatives.

RIGHT ON!!! I'm tired of this death by a million cuts. Let get it on.