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Carjackers make big mistake jumping this Lone Grove man - 83 YO breaks would-be carjackers arm
Ardmoreite.com ^ | December 10, 2003 | By Wilbert Wiggs

Posted on 12/10/2003 2:11:39 PM PST by MeekOneGOP

Story last updated at 8:52 a.m. Wednesday, December 10, 2003

Carjackers make big mistake jumping this Lone Grove man
By Wilbert Wiggs
Staff Writer

photo: local

  Ratliff  
And the moral of this story is: Don't be fooled by a relaxing "old" man kicked back with his boots off. Especially if that "old" man happens to be Pat Ratliff of Lone Grove.

That's the first mistake a Dallas carjacking team made a few days ago while scouting a parking lot for an easy mark. At 83, Ratliff can strike one as an easy mark.

That was the second mistake, as they spotted Ratliff waiting for his wife and grandson to return from a nearby store.

A red-headed woman and gun-toting male companion had the element of surprise on their side. That advantage didn't account for Pat's cool approach to just about any situation and his reputation as "the man who tears quarters with his bare fingers."

"They shouldn't have done that," Ratliff remarked about the totally unexpected attack.

Ratliff was only momentarily surprised when the woman appeared by the driver's door and began hitting him with her purse for no apparent reason. The reason became clear moments later when a man stuck a gun inside from the opposite side.

Being the alert type and an individual who's "been through a lot of stuff," Ratliff immediately began looking for an opportunity. He was ready when the man glanced away.

"I grabbed his arm and broke it over the door," Ratliff said of his response, speaking literally. "The bone was sticking from his arm. I was trying to teach him a lesson."

Disarmed and with a broken arm, the man fled. Security personnel at the store suspect the carjackers have pulled previous capers. Police were able to apprehend the pair, but Ratliff advised them he doesn't want to return to Dallas for a court appearance.

Ratliff is almost apologetic when he says he's not as stout as he once was.

Be that as it may, you're not going to convince a cool (much younger) dude from Dallas who "fled like a 'possum" after his personal encounter with the 83-year-old man from Lone Grove.

"They shouldn't do that," Ratliff repeated.

Wilbert Wiggs, 221-6526 or wilbert.wiggs@ardmoreite.com.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ardmore; attack; carjacking; dallas; oklahoma; texas; usetheforce
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To: international american
New posters always scare me.

However, I think that you are going to make a bunch of friends here.

Welcome!


Eaker

101 posted on 12/10/2003 6:32:35 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: Victoria_R; humblegunner
Carjackers who didn't know Rule One: "Do not act incautiously when confronting a little bald wrinkly smiling man." - Terry Pratchett, "Thief of Time", page 53.

Victoria,

Please forward this to my buddy Humblegunner as I don't want him to know that I forwarded it.

;<)

102 posted on 12/10/2003 6:37:35 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: First_Salute
Perhaps he'd like to replace Sandra Day O'Connor on the U.S. Supreme Court?

"They shouldn't do that" would be his judgment on most things, I expect.

103 posted on 12/10/2003 6:40:58 PM PST by squidly
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
W,I think we had talked when the murderers of the cheerleader from Okla. escaped.Did you know that one of their mothers tried to spring them after they were caught by acting as their attorney and got locked up herself?HAHA

IIRC,you said your outfit's on the little "water" W. of where they were loose.A lot of good folks around there and at one time I'd lived just out of Muenster,"really" good memories.:o)

But that's a loooong time back...when I lived on that side of the River........Okies couldn't read. HeHeeee ;O)

104 posted on 12/10/2003 6:50:25 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority)
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To: MeeknMing
Fantastic!! Message to would be carjackers:

Don't mess with old people that wear cowboy hats!!
105 posted on 12/10/2003 7:36:03 PM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Free Trapper
Gosh I had forgotten all about the cheerleader killers! That is a riot about the mom posing as their attorney! ROFL..........

I'm glad you reminded me....... I was just telling my husband the story of this 83 year old teaching that thug a lesson and he was so tickled by it! I'm sure he'll be spreading this story at work tomorrow...;^)

106 posted on 12/10/2003 8:08:37 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: international american
Julia is a beautiful name. I'm glad that she has a ready defense if the need arises. I've been working on my own proficiency and encouraging my family (parents and sisters) to do the same. Mine is named after our great president and reminds me to act with character and decisiveness.
107 posted on 12/10/2003 8:52:33 PM PST by Donaeus (HYDRA-SHOK, it does the body good. . .Just ask a Neanderthal.)
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To: Eaker; Travis McGee
"the man who tears quarters with his bare fingers." .....hah ! What a wus I can tear a whole dollar bill in half.....:o)

Tough guy indeed......glad he broke the POS's arm.

Stay Safe Ya'll !

108 posted on 12/11/2003 12:44:51 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: FreedomPoster
I wonder is his wife has him registered as a weapon?
Surprise!!
109 posted on 12/11/2003 12:46:57 AM PST by .45MAN ("I am what I am because of what I am")
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To: international american
.I won't say if I was "packing" cause I live in Commiefornia, and evahbuddy knows, y'all cain't do that heah:)

(not unless you are friends with a political muckety-muck or the sheriff)

110 posted on 12/11/2003 12:53:00 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: DugwayDuke
If I hadn't graduated high school from Ardmore High, I certainly wouldn't have caught this.

I caught it. I was born in Ardmore, spent my first 5 years in Marietta and the next 15 in Kansas. I have been in Texas ever since. Ardmore is so close to the "River" it is more Texas than Oklahoma but both states are heaven.

111 posted on 12/11/2003 1:02:19 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: archy
hehe ! I think it's great ! I figured that too. See that title and then see
the real story. What a hoot !

112 posted on 12/11/2003 2:34:26 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Aw, Jeez. That totally stinks. Man ! What is wrong with people ? No sense.

113 posted on 12/11/2003 2:37:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
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To: Free Trapper
Lone Grove is a small town, maybe a few hundred, located about eight miles west of Ardmore. It's been 10 years or so since I was there so things may have changed some.
114 posted on 12/11/2003 3:07:17 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Texasforever
Actually, I was born in Wilson, about sixteen miles west of Ardmore. You have to go thru Long Grove to get there. When did you leave Ardmore? I graduated HS in 1964. I've been in Alabama, off and on, since 1973.
115 posted on 12/11/2003 3:09:55 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: MeeknMing
This is what they call "an acute failure of the victim selection process."
116 posted on 12/11/2003 5:54:18 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: MeeknMing; 2witty; A Jovial Cad; AmerRepb; amigatec; Annabelle; annieokie; aragorn; Archdean; ...
This man is from Oklahoma. Wish I had an Oklahoma ping list.

Allow me.

117 posted on 12/11/2003 6:08:43 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: Stingray51
bump
118 posted on 12/11/2003 6:15:31 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: 2Jedismom
BTTT!!!!!!From Southwest Oklahoma.
119 posted on 12/11/2003 6:16:47 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: MeeknMing
Texan Pride bump
120 posted on 12/11/2003 6:18:21 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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