Supreme Court Handing Down Ruling in Campaign Finance Reform (main parts upheld)

FOX News | 10 Dec 2003 | FOX News

[July 4th]

Reports that main portions of McCain-Feingold are now being upheld! People currently wading through a decision of over 300 pages.

[OldEagle]

Is anyone surprised that SCOTUS could come down 5-4 on this issue? I was seriously surprised, as apparently were a lot os chicken-scratch congresspeople who did not oppose the bill and a president who didn't veto it when he had a chance.

Do you suppose Hillery has files on the justices???

[Analyzing Inconsistencies]

http://www.Dictionary.com has 3 definitions for the word plutocracy:

*Government by the wealthy.
*A wealthy class that controls a government.
*A government or state in which the wealthy rule.

In the USA, 1% controls over 40% of the nation's wealth.

Hmmmm....

[Spiff]

The Ruralites (the ones with most of the guns in this country) were about ready to revolt if Gore stole the election in 2000.

I live in a very rural area. I live around ruralites. I am one.

The most I saw anyone around here desire to do during Gore's attempted coup was a handful of people wrote an angry letter to the editor of the local paper, a few called their congressman (the worthless RINO Jim Kolbe), and one (me) attended a protest or two on the Capitol steps in Phoenix. I was the only person around here (and here is pretty conservative) that was worked up during the impeachment and the attempted coup. Most people just shrugged and didn't seem to care. Ruralites are just as apathetic as Urbanites.

[Revel]

"My solution is to keep trying to get more consevatives in office.

It is NOT to sit around and bitch and moan."

I think you really mean Republicans. But if not then how about a list of conservatives that you have gotten(or helped) into office ?

[Who is John Galt?]

Your confusing Urbanites and Ruralites.

The Ruralites (the ones with most of the guns in this country) were about ready to revolt if Gore stole the election in 2000. Also, the Urbanites are so braindead most of them don't know which end to stick on the toilet most of the time

As an ex-Ruralite ex-Urbanite Ruralite (kind of confusing, I know ;>), I feel obliged to remind you that there were an awful lot of Urbanite Freepers on television during the 'Gore-Attempts-To-Steal-The-Presidency' reality show, demonstrating their butts off, disrupting closed-door D*mocrat chad-counting sessions, loading mags for their FALs, etc., etc., etc. They did their part.

(And I have yet to stick the wrong end on the toilet, except possibly when contorting my body into strange pretzel shapes while doing my own plumbing repairs. Plumbing and I do not get along... ;>)

(But you're definitely right about the Ruralites having most of the guns... ;>)

[Paul C. Jesup]

Are your sure the Urbanite Freepers are not rural transplants like you.

[Beck_isright]

"Sorry, but this is an infamous law and a stain on GWB's record, right up there with John Adams' signing of the Alient and Sedition Acts."

Or Smoot-Hawley? Or the Internment Act? Etc....

[Paul C. Jesup]

Ruralites are just as apathetic as Urbanites.

Not really, where I lived it was much different.

[Revel]

Rush used to say that the 90's would be known as the "decade of fraud and deciet." what will we call this decade -I wonder?
Hoodwinked!

[Who is John Galt?]

Are your sure the Urbanite Freepers are not rural transplants like you.

Not 100% sure. I was living ('trapped' is actually a more descriptive term ;>) in Kalifornia near capitan_refugio at the time, however, and I don't think he has ever been a Ruralite. And he's definitely a straight shooter. (Although his Urbanite background may explain his inability to understand simple English when it comes to the 10th Amendment... ;>)

[mykdsmom]

Guess that proves that frogs are more intelligent than some people then.

MKM

[Revel]

"Well Stated and something the "Sky is Falling" crowd do not seem to realize whether on purpose or through their pack mentality led by a few anti-Bush types. And they call us Bushbots -- yeah right! Still would like to know who the Hillary supporters are on FR -- wonder if some are posting on this thread against the President like he made the ruling all by himself!"

Calling most anyone here a Hilliary supporter is irrational thought from you at its worst. Why should anyone therefore respect anything you have to say? You have stooped really low on that one.

[Who is John Galt?]

Bump...

;>)

[FreeReign]

Bush signs CFR!

Bush signs Prescription Drug Bill!

Bush tells Taiwan to forget freedom & independence!

In baseball, three strikes means that you're out.

[Revel]

""It is almost over (the country)"...Rush Limbaugh today on this terrible blow to free speech.

"If you think this does NOT effect you, you are wrong."...Rush Limbaugh today on this terrible blow to free speech."

It seems that ever since Rush came out of rehab and stated that he had to stop trying to please others- he seems to have returned to his old self. The Rush I loved.

[FreeReign]

Does politics trump the Constitution?

Politics does trump the BOR... for now.

[ModernDayCato]

I've been dreaming of a TV ad here in Connecticut since Congressman Chris Shays (RINO-CT), got the house version of this abomination passed.

It's very simple:

5 guys are sitting at a table. They get up one at a time, recite their names and towns, and say 'I am not voting for Christopher Shays because...'. One would say 'I am voting for Christopher Shays because...'.

After each one finishes a policeman handcuffs them and takes them away. At the end someone off camera says 'You are under arrest for violating the Shays-Meehan campaign finance reform act.'

We'd then throw in something like 'the following people supported this ad:' and run a list of 100 or so people.

We'd end with a pro-America tag line.

I'd pay for it with my own money.

[rmlew]

It seems that our official oligarchs, aka the US Supreme Court have now endorsed the frontal assault on freedom of speech known as the “Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act”. At what point do freedom loving Americans declare that laws and decisions repugnant to the Constitution are void? When do we start with civil disobedience?
I am quite willing to put my temporary liberty on the line to protect my long term liberty and that of posterity by ignoring the unConstitutional law.

If the our "new class" wishes to strip us of our rights or liberty, let them do so openly.
I bow to no king by God.
Molon Labe

[tpaine]

Opinion of THOMAS, J.


the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA), directly targets and constricts core political speech, the "primary object of First Amendment protection."

Because "the First Amendment has its fullest and most urgent application to speech uttered during a campaign for political office," our duty is to approach these restrictions "with the utmost skepticism" and subject them to the "strictest scrutiny."

In response to this assault on the free exchange of ideas and with only the slightest consideration of the appropriate standard of review or of the Court's traditional role of protecting First Amendment freedoms, the Court has placed its imprimatur on these unprecedented restrictions.

The very "purpose of the First Amendment [is] to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail." Yet today the fundamental principle that "the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market," is cast aside in the purported service of preventing "corruption," or the mere "appearance of corruption."
Apparently, the marketplace of ideas is to be fully open only to defamers, nude dancers, pornographers, flag burners, and cross burners, ---

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Looks to me as if his full opinion was not posted..
Does anyone have it handy?

[NittanyLion]

Haven't seen you in a while...good to see you're still posting.