Supreme Court Handing Down Ruling in Campaign Finance Reform (main parts upheld)

FOX News | 10 Dec 2003 | FOX News

[July 4th]

Reports that main portions of McCain-Feingold are now being upheld! People currently wading through a decision of over 300 pages.

[Miss Marple]

The decision will be reveresed if we either get enough Congresscritters to re-write the law or we get more conservatives on the Supreme Court. Will this be easy? No.

Is it worth trying? Yes.

Meanwhile, we can either rant or figure out ways to get the message out. I prefer getting the message out.

[Howlin]

I asked you if you thought the internet would end today; you came back with what Rush and Sean and Savage thought. If you consider that a personal attack, I'm sorry.

[concerned about politics]

Why don't you just come right out and say that we should all walk, talk, think, and memorize the RNC fax flashes,

If you don't care for the DU trolling posts, skip over them.
Sheesh! Get a grip! Go for a walk or something.
People are going friggen nuts here, and the judicial report isn't even out yet!

[COEXERJ145]

I'm surprised that with all the groups against this, there hasn't been a lobbying effort to have Congress overturn @ least the ban on advertising.

I’m truly not surprised that the Court let stand the money bans. They’ve allowed those since the Watergate era. However, they have basically gutted the 1st Amendment by allowing the issues ad ban to remain.

One would think that is enough conservative and liberal groups were hammering Congress they would vote to repeal @ least this provision.

[Moby Grape]

NYC..you and I are on the same page on MOST things...but, Rush and Shawn are not blowing this out of porportion.....This is a DEADLY ruling...It is DANGEROUS...an unelected court has just said that our goverment can limit free speech...I am NOT saying this is the end of the the American Experience...but we may can see it from here.

[aristeides]

This isn't just a bad law, it's a blatantly unconstitutional law. All three branches of the federal government are supposed to stop unconstitutional legislation. In this case, all three of them failed.

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

Amerika

This is now a dictatorship

This is just like Russia

We just lost all of our rights

We lost our freedom of speech

WADR:

Amerika - correctly attributed to me.

This is now a dictatorship - I didn't say this.

This is just like Russia - I didn't say this.

We just lost all of our rights - I didn't say this.

We lost our freedom of speech - I didn't say this (indeed, I said the exact opposite in #1199).

Also, I believe I explained my basis for saying "Amerika" in post 1199, to which you responded.

For clarification, my point is simply: I don't disagree with the ruling. It upsets me. But I will take a pragmatic view of it and simply put it on my "to do" list of things to work, in my own little way, toward rectifying.

[Eastbound]

" . . . . false, scandalous, and malicious writing against . . . the President, with intent to defame, . . . "

If false, yes. But 'scandalous' is not necessarily false. If it didn't matter whether it was false or not, x42 could have charged many with sedition -- notwithstanding the fact he was impeached for lying about about it.

So can we assume that anything can be said as long as it is true? The mere telling of the truth could defame, though it could be argued that the 'king' defamed himself by taking his own clothes off, in the case of x42.

Consider the innuendos and lies the dems are currently involved in against Bush. Seems to me that should qualify as sedition, according to the definition.

[concerned about politics]

Add "knee jerk" to the list of epithets.

I thought this whole thread was about free speach. Go figure. LOL

[billbears]

I will vote for the Republican candidate for Senator in 2004 if they have won the primary for the election before the RNC and the White House nominates them for us and that person is a conservative (unlike the last worthless Senator the RNC gave us). If the RNC or the White House steps in before the primary I will vote for the most conservative on the ticket beside that person and no one else

[Dane]

Great, now Sean's following Rush's lead, saying we've lost a great deal of our rights today... Talk about blowing things WAY out of perspective!

Don't worry about it. They(Sean and Rush) gotta give the "I ain't voting for Bush ever again, even though they didn't vote for him in 2000, and now they have to self-flagellate themselves like the fanatics in the streets of Tehran over some contrived betrayal" some red meat to chew on.

[aristeides]

That's a good idea.

[JCEccles]

So we may now safely add Sean Hannity to the list of hysterical knee-jerk foamers along with Rush Limbaugh, Antonin Scalia, and Clarence Thomas.

I anticipate George Will and Cal Thomas will join their ranks in due time.

I'm honored to find myself on the same side of the debate with such an august group of shallow, irrational, emotion-soaked critics of this legislation.

[oceanview]

Scalia's opinion is all I need to see. You aren't going to get a more salient opinion, from a more intelligent jurist, then that.

[concerned about politics]

Great, now Sean's following Rush's lead, saying we've lost a great deal of our rights today... Talk about blowing things WAY out of perspective!

Paranoid? The damn report isn't even out yet. How do they know what to bitch about if they don't know what the court actually said? Sheesh. Ratings!

[Lady Eileen]

Rush and Sean are right on this one.

[VRWC_minion]

There is no rule of law when the meaning of the law changes from moment to moment.

File your complaints with the founding fathers.

[hchutch]

You make some good points. However, I also see that it is a chance to fix a few things.

We've seen how Fox News Channel took off in a short period of time. The Left is upset about that. How do you think the playing field would change with a "Fox Evening News" airing opposite Rather, Jennings, and Brokaw?

[WackyKat]

Great, now Sean's following Rush's lead, saying we've lost a great deal of our rights today... Talk about blowing things WAY out of perspective!

Not at all.By restricting political speech, this bill does terrible damage to the First Amendment

[concerned about politics]

NYC..you and I are on the same page on MOST things...but, Rush and Shawn are not blowing this out of porportion.....This is a DEADLY ruling...It is DANGEROUS...an unelected court has just said that our goverment can limit free speech...I am NOT saying this is the end of the the American Experience...but we may can see it from here.

1,225 posted on 12/10/2003 3:20:07 PM EST by Impeach the Boy

Freudian screen name?