Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

FreeRepublic Exclusive: LTC Allen West personally confirms 'no prosecution advisement' from Iraq.
LTC Allen West from Tikrit | December 10, 2003 | Jeff Head

Posted on 12/10/2003 5:27:15 AM PST by Jeff Head

Edited on 12/10/2003 3:12:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Upon hearing the preliminary news from Fox about LTC West and the disposition of his case last night (12/9/03) at about 11:15 PM mountain time, and the interview with his lawyer on O'Reilley, I fired an email off to the LTC for confirmation. I got a reply back from Iraq early this morning (12/10/03) confirming it. I am posting that email exchange:

Here is what I asked him in my email.


Al,

We just got preliminary word on Fox from Atlanta (and I'm in Idaho so I am using FR to scour the net) that there will be no prosecution.

Apparently O'Reilley interviewed one of your lawyers and indicated:
"Col West's attorney was interviewed tonight. The attorney said that the investigating officer would recommend that there not be a court martial but that he might be reprimanded. Likely half of his salary for two months and that he would not lose his pension."
Is this accurate? If so, God bless you man...you should be promoted in my opinion, but this has got to be good news...sane news. Sounds like they, albeit belatedly. This should never have gone as far as it did and I only hope it has not effected the moral and willingness for other CO's to do what must be done over there.

Sincerely,

Jeff Head
That email was sent at about 11 PM or a little after last night. This morning at 05:30 AM I Had the following reply from LTC Allen West himself. Here it is:

Jeff,

Yes Jeff, that is pretty much it. My attorney contacted me by e-mail last night with the news. Furhterance of my career is not possible because of being relieved of command, death kiss!

I am thankful to God and looking forward to coming home and getting on with my life. Now it is just a matter of going before my CO and receiving the punishment, no problem. Stay in touch and I may be on a flight home within the week.

God Bless,

Al

I am glad that this good man, who understood the likely impact of his actions, but was willing to take them in that time-critical combat situation he faced in order to better accomplish his mission and minimize casualties to his troopers, and who in fact reported himself...I am thankful to God in Heaven that he will receive his full retirement and come away from this as honorably as he went into it.

We need more good men like LTC Allen West.

While I do not agree with the overall circumstances in this case, our military justice system has worked as the LLTC felt and hoped it should have and I am content in that. I am sorry LTC West had to go to such lengths to make it work, particularly in these circumstances we face as a nation. I will be writing my congressional representatives about it at length in the hopes that some adjustments, particularly in attitude, can be forthcoming.


Typo in link in reply #1, mod updated per request.

Thought everyone would like to know the latest from LTC West himself.

For those following and documenting this story, here are the earlier two threads I have posted on this topic here on FR.

Colonel West...you've got my back any time

LTC West responds to FR artcile

Jeff Head



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allenwest; enemycombatants; interrogation; iraqifreedom; ltcallenwest; waronterror; winningiraqifreedom
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 301-306 next last
To: Jeff Head
" An Army hearing officer has recommended administrative punishment — but not a criminal court-martial — for Lt. Col. Allen B. West, who is charged with assault for firing a gun to scare a confession from an Iraqi detainee."

This recommendation doesn't have to be taken.....perhaps the military will decide even administrative punishment is not required?

41 posted on 12/10/2003 6:14:00 AM PST by YaYa123 (@Fingers Crossed..com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
God Bless him.

I hope there are more like him in the ranks to rise and take his leadership position. He put his men over his career, and in doing so earned my greatest respect, and I suspect that of many others.

I further hope only the best for LTC West (retired) in the future.

Best Regards,

42 posted on 12/10/2003 6:14:34 AM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
BUMP
43 posted on 12/10/2003 6:15:32 AM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
THANKS FOR THIS.

THE MAN SHOULD HAVE A PROMOTION AND AWARDS, VS *ANY* PUNISHMENT, imho.
44 posted on 12/10/2003 6:16:41 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
I heard this earlier and was very happy to hear that Col. West will get a break. If there ever was a soldier that all of us could be proud of, it's Colonel West. This GREAT AMERICAN could have easily ignored his own misconduct and there was a good chance no one would have ever known. But he was bigger than that, he knew he violated the code of conduct and his decision to report his own misconduct brought home the real meaning of HONOR, DUTY, COUNTRY.

Colonel West has lived up to the standards that many others will never know, I am glad his superiors are being lenient on him, and if by chance Colonel West reads this thread, I have this message for him....

I salute you Sir, You are a Great American

45 posted on 12/10/2003 6:20:04 AM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
LTC West is a "Warrior" and "A Leader of Men"! The chairborne pukes hate his type and will use anything to thwart them. While he should be promoted and given a brigade command, the bureaucrats will get their pound of flesh. LTC West made them look like the spineless paper shufflers that they are, and that sin cannot and will not be forgiven.
46 posted on 12/10/2003 6:20:34 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Quix
It is up to us to name an award, have it designed professionally and impressively, everyone pitch in to pay for it, then have a 'Freeper Banquet in Honor Of' somewhere and pack the place, simulcast on FR and have prominent Americans give congratulatory and support intros, with a keynote by the hero himself.
47 posted on 12/10/2003 6:22:24 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: R. Scott
He knew it would, and expected it as a result of his actions. but in the circumstances, he took those actions anyway on behalf of his command. That's what makes this so inspiring IMHO.
48 posted on 12/10/2003 6:23:04 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the confirmation, Jeff Head. Best wishes to LTC West and his family.
49 posted on 12/10/2003 6:24:00 AM PST by Fred Mertz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Trapper
Yes it is...one can only wish that he had not faced any reprimand...but even he knew it was inevitable.
50 posted on 12/10/2003 6:24:08 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Ragtime Cowgirl
You are weclome...and thank you for your tireless posts in support of our troops.
51 posted on 12/10/2003 6:24:46 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Sloth
You're welcome.
52 posted on 12/10/2003 6:25:15 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
Thank him from all of the real Americans and let him know that veterans (I had 6 years back in the 60's) would WILLINGLY follow him through hell or high water. He is the ideal role model for all combat officers.

I'm proud to be a strong supporter of our troops (Columbia MO Infinite FReeper), our Country, our President and LTC West.

Again, thanks to a brave and truly patriotic officer.

53 posted on 12/10/2003 6:25:54 AM PST by zip
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
This is good news, for Lt. Colonel West, the Bush Administration, and the country.

Agreed. IMHO, it's too bad the lengths that had to be gone to to achieve this outcome...even too bad that this was the outcome given the nature of our enemy and this war.

Such lengths can be measured in a price. We learned in WW II and other wars that the price is the blood of our countrymen.

54 posted on 12/10/2003 6:26:46 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
Jeff, I'm a retired army officer and am disgusted by this unwise prosecution of LTC West. I posted this on another thread. Perhaps you could forward it to LTC West and let him know that most of us retirees support him.

I have little use for those who wish to punish LTC West out of all proportion to his offense. There are larger issues at stake that bear upon soldiers perceptions of their leaders. Those who feel LTC West should be punished do not understand the importance of leadership, its impact upon unit morale and how the two elements together form an aspect of combat power.

You can have the best trained army in the world, with the most technologically advanced equipment. We do. In the hands of unmotivated soldiers who are poorly led, these advantages mean absolutely nothing. So then you have a professional officer corps, skilled in the art of war, leading a well equipped army, whose subordinates do not trust such leaders with their lives and will not or cannot obey orders. You then have chaos and inevitable failure.

This is the risk of going forward with the court martial. MG Odierno has shown that following the letter of the law (going to an art.32 hearing) is more important than the morale of soldiers. What soldier is going to want to fight for his chain of command, when that same chain of command punishes, far beyond any appropriate measure, commanders who try to protect them from the enemy?

The court martial of LTC West is unprecedented. I've been around the army since 1976 and cannot think of a single court martial more destructive to morale than this one. I grant you LTC West should be punished; only because no wrong deed should ever be tolerated. But that punishment should have been a verbal reprimand with the admonition not to do such actions in the future.

The more this is on the front page, the more the army loses. Going the court martial route destroys morale and any confidence soldiers might have in their leaders. JAG types (army lawyers) don't think about this; its not their job. But commanders at all level realize the implications that any punishment West gets will be viewed as a sop to political correctness.

The commanding general of the 4th Infanty Division has shown incredibly poor leadership by ever allowing this 'charge' to see the light of day. This is what happens when you have careerists and lawyers running a war, instead of soldiers and warriors. He should know better better than to give the impression that he doesn't give a damn about his soldiers; which is the result of his extremely poor judgement in this case. Who would want to be a soldier in the 4th ID these days? MG Odierno, CG of the 4th ID, should be relieved of command, and LTC West reinstated.

Regards

55 posted on 12/10/2003 6:26:54 AM PST by OldCorps
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PGalt; Bruce Kurtz
It is good news. Hopefully now, the LTC will be home with his family for Christmas with their retirement for his 20 years of honorable service intact.
56 posted on 12/10/2003 6:27:53 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Redleg Duke
...A warrior and a leader of men...

When I saw him on tv those were my exact thoughts.
Maybe he'll run for congress and become the boss of those paper pushing wankers.
57 posted on 12/10/2003 6:28:36 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Ispy4u
Thank you for that Ispy4U.

I know we differed on this, but I appreciate and respect your reasoned dialog and your attitude regarding this outcome.

Thank you, from myself and my entire family, for your service to our Republic, may the true spirit and Peace of this season be with you and yours...may it be with us all and motivate us all to do more good.

58 posted on 12/10/2003 6:29:56 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
You are very welcome.
59 posted on 12/10/2003 6:30:30 AM PST by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
Great news Jeff!  Thanks for sharing it!
 
God Bless LTC West and his family!!!
 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

60 posted on 12/10/2003 6:31:18 AM PST by End Times Sentinel ("You white rednecks... this is what my momma taught me!"- Nathaniel Jones Former Cincinnati Resident)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 301-306 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson