FIRST SHOT IN DEMS' CIVIL WAR

New York Post ^ | 12/10/03 | Deborah Orin

[kattracks]

December 10, 2003 -- AL GORE made it crystal clear yesterday that one of his prime goals in endorsing Howard Dean for president is to kiss Bill Clinton's Democratic Party goodbye. "We need to remake the Democratic Party," Gore said as he threw his support to Dean at a breakfast just down the street from Clinton's Harlem office and gave the front-runner a big boost toward the 2004 Democratic nomination.

[Ichneumon]

just reinventing reinventing, which he invented, anyway, right after the internet....

What's funny is that not only did Al Gore not invent the internet, but a scientist named "Bush" invented the concept of the web browser and the world wide web in 1945.

[commish]

If anyone believes for a minute that this is not completely choroegraphed by the Clintons and Company, you are smoking something that alters reality. Don;t get me wrong, I think Howard Dean is a nutjob who is off on his own, but Algore is not "Breaking" with the Clinton's

And Clinton, who won the White House by leading the party to the center, has given plenty of hints that he sees Dean as a candidate who would lead the party back to the unelectable left.

DING DING DING we have a winner!. This statement says it all. Dean will continue to veer left and will get thoroughly trounced in November. Meanwhile this is allowing HILLARY! to set her self up as the person to "Bring the party back to the center".

Al Gore is the pawn to do just that. He endorses Dean, the as November nears he starts expressing concern about Dean's continued drift to the left (this is foreshadowing :-)). Then after the disaster in Novemeber, Gore (Now a STATESMAN) sees the error of his ways and boldly announce "WE MUST RALLY AROUND HILLARY IN THE CENTER!!!!"

FOlks, this whole charade has BUBBA's fingerprints all over it.

[commish]

FOlks, this whole charade has BUBBA's fingerprints all over it.

To clarify -- I am not saying that Dean is part of all this. He is truely the fly in the CLinton's ointment.

What I am saying, is the Clinton's are now poised to take advantage of the almost assured November disaster, and Al Gore endorsing Dean is part of the calculated moves they are now making.

The Clinton's have already convinced Soros and others to donate to thier PAC and not the DNC. This is to Deny Dean access to those MILLIONS. Now, by getting Gore to endorse Dean, they make Dean a legitimate candidate -- which sets up thier move to salvage the party when Dean implodes in November.

[zip]

I'm sure the Presidency is important to Clark, but is it really worth getting to savor the Oval Office for 10 minutes before contracting the Arkansas Flu?

I think you are giving him too much time IF Hildebeast is his VP and IF they win. A caller to SH's talk show yesterday pegged it at immediately following his election. That "Arkansas flu" is vicious.

[OldCorps]

...don't go getting into any small planes now will ya al!

lol, algore should definitely increase his security detail. He seems to have wandered off the reservation and forgotten that its all about Hitlery.

[Kevin Curry]

I don't fully understand your comment. You seem to be suggesting that the American voting public tends to punish bad behavior in a president by exiling his party into the wilderness of unelectability (at least as to the office of POTUS) for a spell. Although that is an interesting conjecture in the case of Nixon (Carter cast as the "cleansing" anti-Nixon), I am nor sure I agree this is happening or will happen in the case of Clinton.

Gore was not repudiated by the American people; he lost on the electoral battlefield due to the slimmest difference of votes in Florida. In losing, he ran a Clinton-style "third way" campaign that stressed more centrist positions. The strategy made sense; it had worked twice before. In the current election, Lieberman is the candidate most closely allied with this strategy.

By endorsing Dean, Gore is openly repudiating the Clinton-style "third way" strategy and embracing an unabasedly leftist and personality-oriented "I hate Bush" strategy. Why he has done this is not clear. The author of the article leading this thread seems to believe Gore is striving to topple the Clintons and believes he must repudiate their political strategy as well.

If this is a truly declaration of war between the Clinton and post-Clinton factions in the Democratic Party, announced by a defecting Al Gore who hopes to topple Hillary as the heir apparent, we can expect some truly nasty manuevers by a counterattacking Clinton faction. There is simply no way Bill and Hillary are going to gracefully surrender power to Al Gore and Howard Dean.

I have a hunch Gore believes no Democrat can beat Bush in 2004 and he is trying to reshape and gain command of the battlefield in preparation for 2008. It is none other than Hillary Clinton, the blacksuit beast herself, he is striving to neutralize or destroy.

We must encourage the Democrats in their vicious civil war.

[hosepipe]

Al Gore lends his mind and power to the Dean camp
So much for Dean... Dumb and Dumber for President.. pretty much opens the way for Hillary, know what I mean ...

[Hildy]

How in earth do you endorse someone you don't agree with 90% of the time? This shows how morally bankrupt the Dems are. WINNING IS EVERYTHING. I used to break with FR when it came to whether or not Dems are patriotic. I thought they just had a different way of seeing things. No more, they have tunnel vision. Winning is everything and they will do or sell out anyone or anything to get it. It's incredibly scary.

[EQAndyBuzz]

I posted my theories about this. But after thinking more about it I came up with the following.

Gore is now back in the headlines. Which means that he has something up his own sleeve.

Dean gets nomination. McAwful is ousted in favor of Gore as chairman of DNC. "Something" happens to Dean whether physical or emotional or something that would render him unable to run.

In a last minute conference, it is decided that Al Gore, being the centrist he is be recruited to fill the vacant opponents chair. Al accepts and names Klintoon to head up the DNC. Gore is beaten in the election and Hillary is ready to run in 2008 with Klintoon pulling the purse strings.

The Klintoons now own the Democratic party. Welcome to Socialism.

[Mike Darancette]

Rangel backs 2004 candidate Wesley Clark, who is supported by many Clinton loyalists. So perhaps it was no accident that Clark yesterday talked up Hillary Clinton as his possible running mate.

I foresee one or both of the Clintons going public in support of Clark soon. They will say that Dean is too left to be elected. Talk about a blood bath.

[squidly]

Whatever the roots of this schism, it is certainly better to face a divided enemy.

[kkindt]

The Clintons will wait to see what happens after Iowa and New Hampshire - then kick their support to which ever candidate seems likely to help tie up the convention in a deadlock - if it is Clark - and probably it will be - they will support him as you suggest.

Hilary's biggest hope is that the convention is not able to elect any of these men and then engineer it so Clark nominates Hilary - the polls in Hilary's favor against Bush especially if Clark is her running mate rather than the other way around.