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LIVE THREAD: Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate (N.H.)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | November 9, 2003

Posted on 12/09/2003 3:40:51 PM PST by Howlin

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To: arasina
He's probably starting a thread over at the LibertyPost Biker Bar. TLBSHOW is mock mounting his "Body By Jake" in excitement.

I've noticed that the anti-everything zombies are into portraying the Bushbots gobbling colored pills these days. Strange and unlikable folk is what they is! ;^)

921 posted on 12/09/2003 7:29:41 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Howlin
I watched the entire debate, and the only two words I can think of to describe it are:

Charlie Foxtrot

922 posted on 12/09/2003 7:38:15 PM PST by Momaw Nadon (The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work unless it's open.)
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To: woodyinscc
The chronic naysayers here provide no alternative solution.

You and I would both cherish a Senate full of Rick Santorums and a House full of Tom Delays. President Bush would sign each and every one of the conservative bills that came from those bodies.

That's not reality today. Bush cannot reform Medicare, our schools, our military and win the war on terror without spending money. No money, no Democrat votes and no public support. That's the way it is in a 50-50 nation.

Bush is outstanding. He's a conservative. He's a BETTER President than Reagan. He has better staff, better focus and the hatred of him by Liberals is directly proportional to his standing and effectiveness as a Conservative. It's that easy.

We have a significant group of gracelessly aging 50-60 something males and economically dislocated High Tech engineer/programmer/analyst Libertarian types here on FR who are just pissed at the world right now. They bring it here, and they can all rally around dumping on Bush and the GOP.

There's 3000 people who post on FR every day. George W. Bush garnered 50.4 million votes in 2000. Let's not let the aggrieved malcontents present a false picture of the real political world outside the borders of this Web Forum.

923 posted on 12/09/2003 7:42:36 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: onyx
Thanks for the nomination! };^D)
924 posted on 12/09/2003 7:45:12 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: Tamsey
Arnold and W are longtime friends and understand and respect each other's talents, priorities and boundaries perfectly.

There's an infrastructure being built, I'll guarantee you, to maximize Bush's prospects next November. And don't you know, McClintock and his crew of vandals are doing everything they can to sabotage it. They like being powerful losers.

925 posted on 12/09/2003 7:59:10 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Gore today was harshly attacking the Bush Administration for supposedly making the worst foreign policy mistake in our history by invading Iraq. This from a member of an administration whose greatest triumph was getting Indonesia out of East Timor (their other "success stories" either have already unraveled, or are fixing to). The Democrats seem determined to pin their election hopes on U.S. failure in Iraq, which is not likely to appeal to patriotic Americans.

In the old days, Presidential nominees were selected by party bosses and insiders at the conventions. They sometimes came up with mediocrities (Franklin Pierce, Warren G. Harding) but sometimes with excellent choices. That gave way to the system of primaries, increasingly chaotic, irrational, and expensive. Now it looks like the 'Rats will select their nominee before a single primary has been held. We've come full circle, except that it's now vastly more expensive, and much nastier.

If the 'Rat race is really over, can we stop having twice-a-week "debates"?

926 posted on 12/09/2003 8:08:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Howlin
OMG .. I'm catching part of the debate now

Did Kerry basically tell Ted Koppel to take his poll and shove it??
927 posted on 12/09/2003 8:13:08 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: ArneFufkin
He has better staff, better focus and the hatred of him by Liberals is directly proportional to his standing and effectiveness as a Conservative. It's that easy.

He is unflappable. The dims have thrown everything at him but the kitchen sink, and he still keeps his eye on the prize. Look for him to ask for more tax cuts after the first of the year, and listen to the dims holler. Can they say the tax cuts are not working? I think not. He will let the dollar weaken for the next few months, which will help business in the rust belt, and more then compensate the steel companies for his ending of the tariffs. He gave them breathing room, and he kept a promise. Come Nov. all will be forgiven. He will win because he is looking past the elections and the dims are forced to run against his all to apparent, successful policies

928 posted on 12/09/2003 8:15:36 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Mo1
Ah, yeah.

And don't miss what Sharpton says to him at the very end.
930 posted on 12/09/2003 8:16:12 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: HaloStatue
The rerun is on CPSAN now.
931 posted on 12/09/2003 8:16:35 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Gore is making a half-assed bid to remain relevant for the 2008 election. He should have stepped up to the plate LAST WEEK and put his support behind the Iraq campaign, and our American imperative to defeat the Terror Masters. That's the winning program, the right choice, if you want to be President of the United States in January, 2008. Hillary beat him to the punch.

Gore has no winning outcome here. If the Iraqi campaign and the Economy goes to Hell, Dean wins the White House in 2004 and is the powerful incumbant in 2008. If the Iraqi campaign is a success and the Economy is vibrant, Bush wins 2004. The 2008 election will be won on being as trustworthy with National Security and the Economy as George W. Bush was from 2001-2007. Hillary is 100% behind the Iraqi initiative right now, she's positioned for 2008 should we prevail. We will prevail, she saw it firsthand two weekends ago. Gore is through as a political force. He has no upside other than an Iraqi and Economic disintegration and a candidacy-terminating Howard Dean scandal. Even in that case, Hillary would jump into the vaccuum as the savior, and she'd be the Prez January 2005.

Gore's a putz.

932 posted on 12/09/2003 8:20:08 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Howlin
And don't miss what Sharpton says to him at the very end.

Would it have anything to do with no one asking him a question??

933 posted on 12/09/2003 8:21:44 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: Mo1
No, it does not! He smack Koppel into next week!
934 posted on 12/09/2003 8:23:25 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the thread Howlin, I am watching the replay and am trying to supress my feelings of over confidence, while watching these bafoons.!!
935 posted on 12/09/2003 8:23:57 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Howlin
Ohhhhhhhhhhh .. I can't wait to see that
936 posted on 12/09/2003 8:24:25 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: ArneFufkin
Even in that case, Hillary would jump into the vaccuum as the savior, and she'd be the Prez January 2005.

No!

938 posted on 12/09/2003 8:28:52 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: woodyinscc
Bush has assembled an amazing management team. He trusts and supports them all, they sing from the same hymnal, and they can make mistakes and have great successes under his supervision without fear.

I'm no robot, but I'm hugely supportive of this President, this Administration and our GOP Congressional leaders and representatives. We've never had better talent, leverage and opportunity for real reform in my lifetime.

Compare December 9, 2003 to December 9, 1999. Our positioning and status as Conservatives is exponentially superior today, compared to then. Our tools and prospects are ridiculously strong. The noisy malcontented trolls and unappeasables grousing 24/7 on FR can stick it backside.

939 posted on 12/09/2003 8:33:31 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
The most insightful, and logical post I have read on the political landscape and the Hillary candidacy. I might add it just changed my mind on Hillary running in 2004. I have thought that Hillary would jump in at the right time because she could not take a chance that President Bush after a second term, would turn over a country so prosperous that a third term would be awarded to the R's.
940 posted on 12/09/2003 8:41:29 PM PST by woodyinscc
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