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Dean Takes Front-Runner Status Nationally for First Time
Gallup News Service ^ | December 9, 2003 | Frank Newport

Posted on 12/09/2003 4:00:18 AM PST by RWR8189

PRINCETON, NJ -- With little over a month until the first contest for delegates to the Democratic National Convention, a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey of Democrats shows, for the first time, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean has moved into first place for his party's nomination among Democrats nationally. Twenty-five percent of registered voters who identify with or lean to the Democratic Party say they are supporting Dean for the nomination. Retired Gen. Wesley Clark ranks second with 17%. Three weeks ago, Dean and Clark were tied at 17%.

Candidate Preference Among Registered Voters:
Democrats and Democratic Leaners

The latest figures, with Dean at the top of the list of candidates, represent a major change in the nomination contest. Shortly after Clark entered the race in September, he led with 22% support, compared with 13% for Dean, and 10% to 11% for the other three major candidates. Since then, Clark's support has waned somewhat, while Dean's has nearly doubled.

From a long-term perspective, the race has changed even more significantly. Late in the spring of this year Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry led among Democrats, while Dean was near the bottom of the list. Since then, both Lieberman and in particular Kerry have dropped significantly as Dean has risen in the poll's rankings.

Many observers had already anointed Dean as the Democratic front-runner, given his advantages in fund raising over the other candidates, his endorsements, and his considerable lead in polls conducted in New Hampshire -- the traditional first primary in the nation and the one that often sets the tone for the nomination campaign. Now, for the first time, voters' preferences are aligned with this punditry.

Most polls conducted in New Hampshire show Dean with a significant lead there, and other polls suggest that Dean is competitive in Iowa, whose caucuses will be held January 19. Since New Hampshire is contiguous to Kerry's home state of Massachusetts, it has generally been considered important for him to have a strong showing there. Similarly, Gephardt has put a great deal of campaigning emphasis in Iowa, which is contiguous to his home state of Missouri, and whose caucuses he won in 1988. If Dean wins in both of those states, it is possible that the campaigns of Gephardt and Kerry would be fatally hurt. That would leave Clark, Lieberman, and North Carolina Sen. John Edwards as the other candidates with a reasonable chance of competing with Dean.

Dean Leads Among Liberals, Holds His Own Among Moderates

Candidate Support Among All Democrats, Compared by Ideology

Liberal

Moderate

Conservative

%

%

%

Dean

40

17

11

Clark

11

19

17

Gephardt

9

10

25

Lieberman

8

11

13

Kerry

6

8

6

Edwards

6

8

9

The latest results show Dean with especially strong support among Democrats who identify as liberals. He leads Clark, his next closest challenger, by 29 points (40% vs. 11%) among this group. Among moderate Democrats, Clark and Dean are closely matched for the lead. Among the relatively small group of Democrats who identify as conservatives, Gephardt holds a statistically significant lead over Dean and Lieberman. Dean garners just 11% of the conservative vote.

Survey Methods

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,004 national adults, aged 18 years and older, conducted Dec. 5-7, 2003. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

For results based on the sample of 465 Democrats and Democratic leaners, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±5 percentage points.

For results based on the sample of 402 Democrats and Democratic leaners who are registered to vote, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±5 percentage points.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

Next, I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Democratic primary for president in the next election. After I read all the names, please tell me which of those candidates you would be most likely to support for the Democratic nomination for President in the year 2004. [ROTATED:Massachusetts Senator, John Kerry, Connecticut Senator, Joe Lieberman, North Carolina Senator, John Edwards, Missouri Congressman, Dick Gephardt, Former Vermont Governor, Howard Dean, the Reverend Al Sharpton, Ohio Congressman, Dennis Kucinich, Former Illinois Senator, Carol Moseley Braun, Retired General, Wesley Clark]





Dean





Clark




Gep-hardt



Lieb-erman



Ed-wards




Kerry




Braun




Sharp-ton




Kuc-inich




Gra-ham

None/ other/ no opin.

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Democrats/Democratic Leaners

2003 Dec 5-7

22

17

13

10

7

7

5

4

2

--

13

2003 Nov 14-16

16

16

12

14

5

10

5

4

3

--

15

2003 Nov 10-12

16

13

11

15

9

9

4

3

3

--

17

2003 Oct 24-26

15

15

12

11

6

9

4

6

2

--

20

2003 Oct 10-12

13

19

9

12

5

10

5

7

3

--

17

2003 Oct 6-8 ^

15

20

8

13

3

12

4

5

2

--

18

2003 Sep 19-21

12

21

9

11

4

12

3

5

2

4

17

2003 Sep 8-10

13

9

15

12

5

11

5

3

2

5

20

2003 Aug 25-26

11

2

13

23

5

9

4

4

1

6

22

2003 Aug 4-6

14

--

14

17

6

12

5

4

2

5

21

2003 Jul 25-27

10

--

14

20

6

16

6

5

2

5

16

2003 Jun 12-18

6

--

15

20

7

13

6

7

1

6

19

2003 May 31-Jun 1

5

--

14

21

7

16

3

7

3

4

20

2003 Apr 22-23

6

--

15

23

9

17

4

3

3

5

15

Democrats/Democratic Leaners Who Are Registered to Vote

2003 Dec 5-7

25

17

14

10

7

7

5

3

2

--

10

2003 Nov 14-16

17

17

13

13

6

9

4

5

3

--

13

2003 Nov 10-12

17

14

12

15

7

10

4

3

3

--

15

2003 Oct 24-26

16

15

12

12

6

10

4

6

1

--

18

2003 Oct 10-12

13

18

10

13

6

11

5

6

3

--

15

2003 Oct 6-8 ^

16

21

8

13

2

13

4

6

2

--

15

2003 Sep 19-21

13

22

11

10

4

11

3

4

2

4

16

2003 Sep 8-10

14

10

16

13

5

12

4

2

2

5

17

2003 Aug 25-26

12

2

13

23

5

10

5

4

1

4

21

2003 Aug 4-6

15

--

15

18

5

12

5

4

2

5

19

2003 Jul 25-27

11

--

16

21

6

15

6

5

2

4

14

2003 Jun 12-18

7

--

17

21

6

13

5

6

1

7

17

2003 May 31-Jun 1

5

--

14

20

6

17

4

7

2

4

21

2003 Apr 22-23

6

--

16

22

8

18

4

3

3

5

15

^

NOTE: Bob Graham dropped out of race on Oct. 6, his name was removed from question for Oct. 7-8 interviewing and in subsequent polls; "Graham" responses from Oct. 6 included in "other" category.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dean; gallup; gephardt; howarddean; johnkerry; polls; wesleyclark
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1 posted on 12/09/2003 4:00:19 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189
It looks like the wacked Dean will beat the wacked Clark and the wacked Kerry for the nomination
2 posted on 12/09/2003 4:03:57 AM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: RWR8189
Kerry below The Lieberclown. The big guy's going down.
3 posted on 12/09/2003 4:05:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: RWR8189
I'm really surprised they show so many "conservatives" backing Geppy - all politicians have something screwed up in their heads, but from what i've seen, he is certifiable.
4 posted on 12/09/2003 4:07:48 AM PST by trebb
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To: trebb
I wonder how this compares to the dem primaries in 1972 and 1984...
5 posted on 12/09/2003 4:44:39 AM PST by bobjam
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To: trebb
Any person of conservative leanings who remains a Democrat has to be screwed up to begin with. So Gephardt is simply reflecting his constituency.

On an aside note, Democrats as a whole have fewer and fewer issues to run on, unless they switch way over to the other end, and accuse Bush of spending TOO much money on domestic programs, and not prosecuting the war on terrorism vigorously enough. They do this anyway, but unless they came up with a plan for spending LESS, and waging WOT in a spectacularly innovative manner, making premptive strikes in surprising places, they will have nothing.
6 posted on 12/09/2003 4:49:34 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: RWR8189
The Angry Candidate Celebrates.
7 posted on 12/09/2003 5:30:40 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: alloysteel; All
Can Dean actually win next November?

Read forwarded message below...


2004 presidential elections, a pro-gun grassroots activist's dilemma?

A brief NRA-related history of gun-control politics played out here in our Nation's Capital:

1980, 1984 – NRA endorses Reagan for President. He wins landslide victories.

1988 – NRA endorses George H.W. Bush, Sr., after he becomes a member and makes certain pro-gun promises. Bush wins.

1989 – Bush bans importation of semi-auto (civilian model) AK-47s via Executive Order, enforced by the BATF, FBI, etc.

1992 – NRA does not endorse Bush. He loses.

1993 – Waco debacle. Brady Bill, endorsed by all living U.S. Presidents, passes Congress. Clinton signs into law.

1994 – So-called “Assault Weapons” Ban (semi-auto ban) passes Congress, gets signed into law. NRA launches all out effort to defeat politicians who supported ban. NRA plays decisive role in the historical election of a pro-gun, Republican Congress.

1996 – Clinton stages duck-huntin' photo-op; lies about support of “2nd Amendment”. NRA does not endorse Dole, due to his history of compromise with the moderates. Clinton wins 60% of gunowner vote; is re-elected.

2000 – Sen. Al Gore favors more “sensible” gun safety/control laws. Gov. Dubya Bush favors “enforcing current laws”. NRA mobilizes unprecedented, anti-Gore, grassroots efforts targeting key swing voter states with gun-owning union members (PA, OH, KY, AR, WV, TN, FL, etc.) and in support of pro-gun candidates. After secret meetings in Washington, Bush receives NRA endorsement about two weeks before election day. Bush wins 60% of gunowner vote, carrying critical swing states with lots of gun-owning union members.

2002 – Congressman Bob Ehrlich, a co-sponsor of the 1995 House Bill to repeal the 1994 federal assault weapons ban, receives the NRA's endorsement for Governor and goes on to win a decisive victory in the historically liberal, anti-gun, Democrat-dominated state of Maryland.

2004 – Presumptive Democrat presidential candidate, former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, proud of all his NRA “A” ratings and endorsements, has the SAME issue positions on gun-control as President Bush. Both have said they will sign the renewal of the 1994 so-called “Assault Weapons” Ban. Both favor bans on affordable guns - the so-called "Saturday Night Specials".

Soooo, just who will all those gun-owning Reagan Democrats, independents, union members, etc., who decisively supported Clinton over Dole in 1996, and Bush over Gore in 2000, be voting for next November?

-- A former NRA EVC (Election Volunteer Coordinator)
8 posted on 12/09/2003 5:41:22 AM PST by VasilyZaitsev
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To: VasilyZaitsev
Soooo, just who will all those gun-owning Reagan Democrats, independents, union members, etc., who decisively supported Clinton over Dole in 1996, and Bush over Gore in 2000, be voting for next November?

They will vote for Dean (or a third party wackjob which is the same as voting for Dean) because they are knee-jerk, one issue morons.

The better question is...

Sooooo after cutting off their nose to spite their face in the previous elections, what body part will it be this time?
9 posted on 12/09/2003 5:56:37 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: j_k_l
They will vote for Dean (or a third party wackjob which is the same as voting for Dean) because they are knee-jerk, one issue morons.

I'm sure the gun-owning union guys who delivered WV, KY, AR and TN for Bush would appreciate YOUR knee-jerk attitude towards American gunowners. /sarcasm off

It would be a shame if the GOP establishment secretly shared the same attitudes towards gunowners as you do. As previous Presidents have learned the hard way, the concerns of 8 million NRA members are NOT to be ridiculed or ignored.
10 posted on 12/09/2003 6:09:27 AM PST by VasilyZaitsev
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To: VasilyZaitsev
So let’s profile the “perfect GOP candidate” according to a few of the conservative special interest groups:

He (Couldn’t be a She) would vow to destroy all abortion clinics, allow citizens to own personal nuclear assault weapons, close all government agencies, track and kill every illegal immigrant…(I think I can stop there because this guy is delusional if he believes that he is getting 10% of the vote).

Sometime being a rational adult requires seeing the big picture. Just because you may not get your way 100% of the time does not mean a temper tantrum is called for.
11 posted on 12/09/2003 6:27:49 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: j_k_l
The better question is...
Sooooo after cutting off their nose to spite their face in the previous elections, what body part will it be this time?


NO. The "better question"(s) may be...

What did NRA members gain by working so hard to elect Dubya in 2000? Have any of the gun control laws passed during Clinton's two terms been repealed? Would the NRA be better off just ignoring the Presidential race and focus on keeping a pro-gun and/or Republican majority in Congress?
12 posted on 12/09/2003 6:34:35 AM PST by VasilyZaitsev
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To: VasilyZaitsev
Would the NRA be better off just ignoring the Presidential race and focus on keeping a pro-gun and/or Republican majority in Congress?

I sure President Dean would see this and change his view towards guns. He would appoint only strict constitutionalist to the bench who then would support the NRA’s agenda.

Good thinking! That’s using the old noggin!
13 posted on 12/09/2003 6:41:48 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: j_k_l
Sometime being a rational adult requires seeing the big picture. Just because you may not get your way 100% of the time does not mean a temper tantrum is called for.

Save your snide lecture for those "angry white male" devotees of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc. And keep in mind that as Ronald Reagan once said:

"Facts, they can be stubborn things"
(as listed in my original message above)
14 posted on 12/09/2003 6:54:06 AM PST by VasilyZaitsev
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To: RWR8189
Dean is a certified kook. W. will eat him for lunch.
15 posted on 12/09/2003 6:55:24 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Gore as Sec'ty of Interior in Dean's administration? Algor needs a job.)
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To: j_k_l
Good thinking! That’s using the old noggin!

Thank you. And seeing as American voters have traditionally favored a "divided government" (Congress vs. the White House) MAYBE the NRA should do what the so-called "business community" has done historically...that is, hedge their bets between the two parties rather than be merely seen as a knee-jerk arm of the GOP.
16 posted on 12/09/2003 7:00:57 AM PST by VasilyZaitsev
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To: 1Old Pro
I plan to vote for Bush, but, his willingness to sign any renewal of the 1994 so-called "Assault Weapons" Ban does not play well with the grassroots conservative activists who supported him in 2000, but, owe no loyalty to him or the GOP.
17 posted on 12/09/2003 7:06:30 AM PST by VasilyZaitsev
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To: VasilyZaitsev
I too am opposed to the so called assault weapons ban. However it appears that it might be a decision about that bill and a Dean/algor/McGovern total ban.
18 posted on 12/09/2003 7:18:57 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Gore as Sec'ty of Interior in Dean's administration? Algor needs a job.)
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To: VasilyZaitsev
What did NRA members gain by working so hard to elect Dubya in 2000?

• Taxes have been lowered (they should be lowered more but I will take what I can get).
• We now control two countries in the Middle East that were a great threat to us. I might add that we did this with great precision and minimal casualties. (It is pretty amazing what our troops have done in a very short time).
• We have a president who has appointed judges to rule according to the constitution as opposed to writing laws from the bench (unfortunately some have been held hostage by the Dems but hopefully we will rectify that situation in ’04).
• Bush is far from perfect. His spending is ill advised to say the least but he is a dramatic improvement over Al Gore.
• Our country is headed in the right direction (it might be in first gear but at least it beats full speed in reverse as it was 4 years ago)

I honestly do not mean to come off as snide. I am simply stating things the way I see it. I respect your views even though I do not agree with them. 2004 is a critical election for all of us. There are issues that I hold near and dear that will not be addressed but I am going to fight hard to see this president get elected because I know that at the very least, the issues that I want in the forefront have a chance with him.
19 posted on 12/09/2003 7:19:27 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: VasilyZaitsev
MAYBE the NRA should...hedge their bets between the two parties rather than be merely seen as a knee-jerk arm of the GOP.

The dems want nothing to do with the NRA. That is like saying...

MAYBE the Blacks should join the KKK
20 posted on 12/09/2003 7:27:17 AM PST by j_k_l
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