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To: Luis Gonzalez
There is no such thing as a "gay" or "homosexual" citizen in the eyes of the Court,

Agreed. Mostly because the concept of 'homosexual' as a distinguishing characteristic like race is bogus. 'Homosexuality' is a pattern of behavior (which BTW is indulged in only by the mentally ill)

neither States, or the Federal government have the Constitutional power to restrict two able-bodied, consenting adult citizens, from entering into the civil contract known as marriage,

Why did you leave out able minded? are the mentally incompetant able to marry? (you never addressed this from above)

The Federal Government has the power and the Authority under the Constitution to promote the general welfare of the United States. (falls under Article 1, section 8, paragraphs 1 and 18, and Article II Section 3) Any activity that is proven to damage the general welfare can rightly be controlled or banned outright. 'Homosexual' activity is a serious health hazard, physically, mentally and socially. It is a contagious disease that must be controlled as strictly as we once controlled TB or leprosy

performed by government licensed magistrates, because in order to justify the refusal to license the union, either the State, or the Feds must fall back on a reason wholly based on religious beliefs as every other "societal" argument fails miserably to hold up to the light of day.

The fact that homosexual behavior is deadly holds up pretty strongly to the light of day. The evidence has been gathered and paints quite a damning picture of this disease. See scripter's database. (referenced in my last post for your convenience)

The additional fact that this disease does not promote the general welfare and that marriage between one man and one woman does is also well proven.

308 posted on 12/10/2003 4:29:12 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
"Homosexuality" is a pattern of behavior (which BTW is indulged in only by the mentally ill)"

Bullsh%t...

"Why did you leave out able minded? are the mentally incompetent able to marry?"

I also left out blue-eyed, right-handed, red-haired...there are few if any laws restricting the mentally "challenged" from marrying. If you know of any, post them.

"Any activity that is proven to damage the general welfare can rightly be controlled or banned outright."

Now, all you have to do is convince anyone that same-sex marriage can cause damage to the "general welfare"...none of your arguments will hold up, but if you wish to go through the exercise, feel free to do so. If you are going to argue that same sex marriage will somehow "harm" the institution of marriage, and consequently negatively impact society, I'll simply respond that heterosexuals have done more to hurt marriage thus far (and I have the statistics to prove that), than people who simply want the right to marry the person of their choice.

"The fact that homosexual behavior is deadly holds up pretty strongly to the light of day."

Irresponsible sexual promiscuity is dangerous for everyone, marriage being an agreement between two people to be exclusive to one another sexually, is the logical solution to the deadly side effects of that promiscuity.

This "promote the general welfare" argument of yours is as big a pantload as anything I've ever read in here.

Homosexuality is not something that "popped up" a few years ago, and it's not going away, so it's not something that's dangerous to that "general welfare" you are so concerned with. Heterosexuals set in motion the "sexual revolution"; we swing, free-love, divorce by the tens of millions, spouse swap, cybercheat until we get the guts up to "really" cheat, fornicate, and give birth to nearly as many illegitimate babies as we kill in the name of "choice" yearly...and please, don't insult my intelligence and blame all those actions on "liberals" alone.

And you don't seem to concerned with all those actions as a danger to that "general welfare" you are so concerned with, and spend your energy trying to convince others that people who have never been allowed to marry at all, will be more responsible for marriage being destroyed, than those who truly DID destroy it!

That is simply amazingly, and monumentally hypocritical of you.

If you're truly so concerned about the general welfare of this society, why don't you spend your time trying to stop heterosexuals from destroying marriage, and killing one million fetuses a year to hide their irresponsible sexual behavior?

You want deadly consequences to irresponsible sexual behavior?

Try that on for size.

310 posted on 12/10/2003 5:26:00 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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