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To: Jaysun
another motive besides "choice".

I agree that there must be some reason(s) that motivates them beyond common understanding.

1. The promise of truly "free sex" can only be realized when procreation can be positively short circuited, i.e. through baby killing.

2. Money is a big motivator for the baby killing industry, but the numbers of those who owe their income to this grizzly practice does not explain the level of political influence.

3. Those in the population control circles in world politics probably fantasize about unspoiled by so many human beings. Killing people is unpopular. Granting women the "right" to kill her own children spins better and is far less visible means of controlling population.

4. Macro economic issues tie into the motivations for abortion in some ways I don't fully understand. In the short term, you can get a bump in productivity if less of it is spent on raising children. Any fool can see the down side of the policy long term. The department of labor has forecast major labor shortfalls in a couple of decades. I contend that a main brake on our economic growth is our low birth rate. I also believe that most of the social security shortage can largely be explained by a womans "right" to kill.

8 posted on 12/08/2003 4:24:17 AM PST by Got a right to Life? . . Huh? (Pro-choice: hypocrisy defined)
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To: Got a right to Life? . . Huh?
3. Those in the population control circles in world politics probably fantasize about [a world] unspoiled by so many human beings. Killing people is unpopular. Granting women the "right" to kill her own children spins better and is far less visible means of controlling population.
9 posted on 12/08/2003 4:27:49 AM PST by Got a right to Life? . . Huh? (Pro-choice: hypocrisy defined)
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To: Got a right to Life? . . Huh?
Killing people is unpopular. Granting women the "right" to kill her own children spins better and is far less visible means of controlling population.

There's a perverse logic to this that has its origins in hell.

12 posted on 12/08/2003 4:46:03 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Got a right to Life? . . Huh?
Those are all real reasons as to why the nuts support abortion. I think that the large thing that holds them all together is the fact that they see abortion as a way of making things equal between women and men. They see it as a way to further erode the family and a way to help them to their socialist goals. This is not only true for abortion (of course) but for other things that they're in support of such as homosexual marriage. Here's a quote from the goals of a 2000 workshop put on by the abortion loving NOW. It was entitled:

"Engaging the Political with the Personal: Domestic Partnership, Civil Unions and Marriage"

"Domestic partnership and same-sex marriage legislation and litigation may provide a vehicle for challenging some of our most oppressive social structures as they connect the profoundly personal with the political. What has been left out in recent domestic partnership and civil unions efforts? How can they serve to challenge the patriarchal foundations of our society?"

Other quotes from that workshop include:
"In this workshop participants can strategize for further media activism to change the face and body of the media"

"In this workshop activists will discuss what to do about affirmative action in this era of conservatism and complacency."

"Join a discussion on ways to achieve quality health care for all women."

"Make the media work for you!"

"Sowing the Seeds of Discontent in Conservative Areas"

"A panel of women who have achieved power in mainstream institutions —law, medicine, politics — discuss making change from the inside. Can you do the job you're expected to do and still carry out your commitment to equality? How do you advance feminism and not reverse your career? What can you bring to the movement, and what do you need from movement activists? Gain new insight into how we can strengthen each other's hands by playing an inside/outside strategy."

"Constitutional and Legal Strategies:"

http://www.now.org/organization/conference/2000/workshops.html

"We envision a world where patriarchal culture and male dominance no longer oppress us or our earth."

http://www.now.org/organization/conference/1998/vision98.html
14 posted on 12/08/2003 5:27:39 AM PST by Jaysun (Get real, Control-Everybody-But-Yourselves freaks!)
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