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Someone LOVES to use airplanes as their WEAPON-of-CHOICE for assasination!
1 posted on 12/07/2003 9:33:30 PM PST by steplock
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To: steplock
Ping-ark-cide
2 posted on 12/07/2003 9:38:36 PM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: steplock
May God help all the enemies of the most evil regime America ever suffered from.
3 posted on 12/07/2003 9:39:17 PM PST by Killborn (I'd rather have Big Bizniz than Big Guvmint.)
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To: steplock
Is there anybody involved with whitewater besides the Clintons still left alive? I have never seen anything like whitewater where so many people involved have died in "accidents". Amazing. Truly amazing.
5 posted on 12/07/2003 9:42:46 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (Thank the heavens that not all particles seek equal rights.)
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To: steplock
Someone LOVES to use airplanes as their WEAPON-of-CHOICE for assasination!

Just for fun, are we taking bets on who the Dems will use for the "dead Rat bounce" this year? Carnahan worked to perfection but they over-played their hand with Wellstone. Going by past patterns, it'll be a midwestern senator in a close race. :^)

6 posted on 12/07/2003 9:44:03 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: steplock
Does Rockerfellers plane carry AAM's??
7 posted on 12/07/2003 9:44:52 PM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: steplock
I'm not going to say it. Nope. Not. Won't. Wouldn't be suitable for polite company.

*silence*
8 posted on 12/07/2003 9:45:44 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: steplock
Haley, John

Former attorney for Jim Guy Tucker, ex-husband of Marie Haley, co-defendant with Jim Guy Tucker in cable fraud case.

Haley, Maria

Ex-wife of John Haley, co-defendant with Jim Guy Tucker in cable fraud case. Appointed by Clinton to Import-Export Bank.




Jim Guy Tucker: fraud; three felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Second-Term Stall" February 11, 1997; Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker; misdemeanor guilty plea; tax fraud (Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)


10 posted on 12/07/2003 9:49:35 PM PST by kcvl
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To: steplock
On this one I'd say wait and see.

Accidents happen all the time for all kinds of reasons.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/month.asp

The preliminary report for this accident will probably be posted on the NTSB site by the end of the week.

12 posted on 12/07/2003 9:51:54 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: steplock
If howard dean gets the democrat nomination to be the party's candidate for President, [and I personally believe that he will],do not be surprised if he has a fatal accident before November.
13 posted on 12/07/2003 9:55:04 PM PST by sport
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To: steplock
Haley, Convicted in Whitewater Probe, Dies at 72

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (Reuters) - John Haley, a Little Rock attorney who pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor after being swept up in the Whitewater investigation of former President Bill Clinton, was killed on Thursday in the crash of his private plane, his family said on Saturday.

Haley, 72, and his passenger, Farish Kincaid, 70, of north Little Rock, were killed in the crash. They had been flying to a business meeting in northwest Arkansas, the family said.

Haley was a tax attorney for Jim Guy Tucker, who succeeded Clinton as governor of Arkansas in 1992. Tucker, Haley and a third man entered guilty pleas in a tax avoidance case in a fraudulent bankruptcy scheme. Investigators found no connection with that case and Clinton.

Tucker was convicted of an earlier charge of fraud and conspiracy in the Whitewater investigation.

Haley's plea bargain with Whitewater prosecutors, in 1998, reduced his offense to a misdemeanor and allowed him to keep his law license. He was assessed $70,000 in fines and penalties.






Arkansas Connections

Ex-Im Bank is a government- held corporation, managed by a Board of Directors whose members serve at the discretion of the President of the United States.7 A key player in the China transactions is Board member Maria Haley, who served under Governor Clinton in Arkansas, and who moved from the White House in 1995 to become Ex-Im’s Asia-Pacific Director.8

The Philippines born Haley is an ambassador’s daughter who lived in Asia before moving to the U.S. to marry Arkansas attorney, John Haley.

John Haley, it turns out, is the partner and personal lawyer for former Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker, who resigned his office after being convicted along with Susan McDougal in connection with a fraudulent loan.9 John Haley is under indictment and awaiting trial by Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr.


14 posted on 12/07/2003 9:56:23 PM PST by kcvl
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To: steplock

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BILL CLINTON'S FRIEND ??


The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton:
 James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
 apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
 witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

 Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at
 a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after
 she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White
 House.

 Vince Foster - Former White House councelor, and colleague of Hillery
 Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the
 head, ruled a suicide.

 Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.
 Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to
 the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's
 skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was
 being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
 prosecutors.

 C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser major players in the Clinton
 fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

 Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
 dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by
 Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

 Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
 woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide.  Ed
 Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
 Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was
 involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

 Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
 Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
 Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He
 allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files
 were mysteriously removed from his house.

 James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
 "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who
 visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

 James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an aparent hanging
 suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

 Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in
 May 1994 was found dead in her living roon with a gunshot to her head.
 It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,
 as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant
 along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit.
 Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

 Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
 Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
 June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of
 his fiancee.

 Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping
 out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
 convicted drug distributor.

 Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the
 Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot
 wounds.

 Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
 Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
 head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

 Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

 Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport
 and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent
 suicide in the middle of his investigation.

 Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
 Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet
 June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report
 to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

 Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
 Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
 August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

 Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
 Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
 1996. Her brused nude body was found locked in her office at the
 Department of Commerce.

 Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John
 Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small
 plane crash.

 Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
 Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
 crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council
 personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

 Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no
 accident.

 Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the
 trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility
 pole.

 Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee.  His report
 was never released.

 Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994
 when his plane exploded.

 Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
 Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas
 airport drug operation. Controversaial case where initial report of
 death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim
 the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to
 the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

 THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES /
 HENRY CASE:

 Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
 truck July, 1988

 Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

 Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

 Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
 in April 1989.

 James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural
 causes.

 Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat  of his
 pickup truck in June 1990.

 Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths.  Was
 killed in a set-up robbery July 1989

 THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

 Major William S. Barkley Jr.
 Captain Scott J. Reynolds
 Sgt. Brian Hanley
 Sgt. Tim Sabel
 Major General William Robertson
 Col. William Densberger
 Col. Robert Kelly
 Spec. Gary Rhodes
 Steve Willis
 Robert Williams
 Conway LeBleu
 Todd McKeehan

17 posted on 12/07/2003 10:11:27 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: steplock; ChefKeith; Killborn; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; #3Fan; GeronL; Humidston; ...
National Transportation Safety Board -- Dec 2003 Aviation Accidents

NTSB Identification: FTW04FA036
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Thursday, December 04, 2003 in Harrison, AR
Aircraft: Beech S35, registration: N350JL
Injuries: 2 Fatal.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On December 4, 2003, approximately 1006 central standard time, a Beech S35 single-engine airplane, N350JL, registered to and operated by a private individual, was destroyed when it impacted the ground while on final approach to runway 36 at Boone County Airport (HRO), Harrison, Arkansas. The instrument rated private pilot and passenger were fatally injured. Instrument meteorological conditions (IMC) prevailed, and an instrument flight rules (IFR) flight plan was filed for the 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 cross-country flight. The personal flight departed Adams Field Airport (LIT), Little Rock, Arkansas approximately, 0912, with a planned destination of Boone County Airport (HRO), Harrison, Arkansas.

According to air traffic control, the airplane was cleared for an ILS approach to runway 36. Air traffic control data was reviewed by the NTSB investigator-in-charge (IIC), and all times converted to central standard time unless otherwise noted. At 0019, the pilot contacted Jonesboro Flight Service Station (JBR FSS) via telephone, requested and received an outlook briefing for the planned route of flight. At 0706, the pilot contacted JBR FSS, requested and received a standard weather briefing. At 0826, the pilot filed an IFR flight plan (in part: N350JL, true airspeed 170 knots, altitude 6,000 feet msl, time en route 45 minutes, fuel on board 5 hours) from LIT to HRO.

At 0910, the airplane was cleared for takeoff by the controller at the Little Rock Air Traffic Control facility, and was instructed to climb to 6,000 feet msl.

At 0925, the pilot was cleared to contact Memphis Air Route Traffic Center (MEM ARTCC).

At 0956, the flight was cleared for the ILS 36 approach at HRO.

At 1006, the pilot reported to the controller (MEM ARTCC) that he was on a 1/4 mile final for runway 36. There were no additional ATC communications with the pilot.

Numerous witnesses observed and heard the airplane. One witness, a Fixed Base Operator (FBO) employee, manning the Unicom frequency, stated that approximately 1000, the pilot transmitted that the airplane was over Bakky (initial approach fix for ILS 36) and wanted to know if there was other aircraft in the area. A few moments later, the pilot radioed that he [airplane] was coming in a "little" high on the approach and was going to do a downwind for runway 36.

This Unicom operator observed the airplane at an estimated altitude of 300 to 400 feet agl, approximately midfield, turn crosswind for runway 36. This witness stated that the airplane "overshot" the runway on the base to final turn, and enter a steep turn from base to final.

A second witness, who saw the airplane flying "real low" reported the airplane was flying south, then banked "real sharp" toward the east. Then the airplane banked "hard" towards the north, the nose "shot" up in the air, the airplane pivoted, and headed straight down.

A third witness, who was outside the commercial building on the west side of the airport, said she heard an airplane coming from the north. The airplane continued to get louder so she knew it was low, and looked up to see the airplane flying over. The airplane came over the building at about 40 to 50 feet, and just missed the roof. The wheels cleared the trees (approximately 50 feet tall) about 15 yards south of the building. After clearing the trees, the airplane started a left turn toward the runway.

A fourth witness, who was west bound in his truck, saw the airplane flying "very low" approximately 50 to 60 feet above the runway lights. The airplane, flying from north to south, made a "hard" left turn to the east.

A fifth witness, who was sitting in his vehicle, observed the airplane flying east, make a left bank where the bottom of the airplane was toward the witness. During the left bank the nose went up, the airplane twisted, and nosed straight down toward the ground.

Witnesses called 911, and the local authorities responded to the accident site. The local authorities reported that the impact was non survivable.

The Global Positioning System (GPS) location of the accident site was latitude 36 degrees 14.95 minutes North; longitude 093 degrees 09.29 minutes West in approximately a 15-foot drainage area located at the southeast portion of the airport. The main wreckage came to rest upright on a measured magnetic heading of 100 degrees.

Initial examination of the airplane, engine, and propeller was conducted at the accident site on December 5 and 6, 2003, under the supervision of the NTSB IIC. The airplane was recovered by Dawson Aircraft, Inc., Clinton, Arkansas, for further examination under the supervision of the NTSB IIC.

21 posted on 12/12/2003 1:28:10 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: steplock
Harrison City parks employees . . . said the airplane was dumping fuel before it made an attempt to land. The parks workers said they could smell the fuel as it dropped around them.

This isn't right, has to indicate a fuel leak. I'm not aware of a Bonanza or other roughlt contenporary single-engine light plane that is set up to "dump" fuel.

Can anyone add to this - can these planes dump fuel via some added "feature?"

22 posted on 12/12/2003 1:44:05 PM PST by toddst
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To: steplock
Dumping Fuel?

Do Bonanzas now have a fuel dump system?

So9

34 posted on 12/13/2003 4:10:13 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Effing the Ineffable.)
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