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Glaxo Chief: Our Drugs Do Not Work On Most Patients
Independent (UK) ^ | 12-8-2003 | Steve Connor

Posted on 12/07/2003 5:22:07 PM PST by blam

Glaxo chief: Our drugs do not work on most patients

By Steve Connor, Science Editor
08 December 2003

A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take them.

Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.

It is an open secret within the drugs industry that most of its products are ineffective in most patients but this is the first time that such a senior drugs boss has gone public. His comments come days after it emerged that the NHS drugs bill has soared by nearly 50 per cent in three years, rising by £2.3bn a year to an annual cost to the taxpayer of £7.2bn. GSK announced last week that it had 20 or more new drugs under development that could each earn the company up to $1bn (£600m) a year.

Dr Roses, an academic geneticist from Duke University in North Carolina, spoke at a recent scientific meeting in London where he cited figures on how well different classes of drugs work in real patients.

Drugs for Alzheimer's disease work in fewer than one in three patients, whereas those for cancer are only effective in a quarter of patients. Drugs for migraines, for osteoporosis, and arthritis work in about half the patients, Dr Roses said. Most drugs work in fewer than one in two patients mainly because the recipients carry genes that interfere in some way with the medicine, he said.

"The vast majority of drugs - more than 90 per cent - only work in 30 or 50 per cent of the people," Dr Roses said. "I wouldn't say that most drugs don't work. I would say that most drugs work in 30 to 50 per cent of people. Drugs out there on the market work, but they don't work in everybody."

Some industry analysts said Dr Roses's comments were reminiscent of the 1991 gaffe by Gerald Ratner, the jewellery boss, who famously said that his high street shops are successful because they sold "total crap". But others believe Dr Roses deserves credit for being honest about a little-publicised fact known to the drugs industry for many years.

"Roses is a smart guy and what he is saying will surprise the public but not his colleagues," said one industry scientist. "He is a pioneer of a new culture within the drugs business based on using genes to test for who can benefit from a particular drug."

Dr Roses has a formidable reputation in the field of "pharmacogenomics" - the application of human genetics to drug development - and his comments can be seen as an attempt to make the industry realise that its future rests on being able to target drugs to a smaller number of patients with specific genes.

The idea is to identify "responders" - people who benefit from the drug - with a simple and cheap genetic test that can be used to eliminate those non-responders who might benefit from another drug.

This goes against a marketing culture within the industry that has relied on selling as many drugs as possible to the widest number of patients - a culture that has made GSK one of the most profitable pharmaceuticals companies, but which has also meant that most of its drugs are at best useless, and even possibly dangerous, for many patients.

Dr Roses said doctors treating patients routinely applied the trial-and-error approach which says that if one drug does not work there is always another one. "I think everybody has it in their experience that multiple drugs have been used for their headache or multiple drugs have been used for their backache or whatever.

"It's in their experience, but they don't quite understand why. The reason why is because they have different susceptibilities to the effect of that drug and that's genetic," he said.

"Neither those who pay for medical care nor patients want drugs to be prescribed that do not benefit the recipient. Pharmacogenetics has the promise of removing much of the uncertainty."

Response rates

Therapeutic area: drug efficacy rate in per cent

Alzheimer's: 30
Analgesics (Cox-2): 80
Asthma: 60
Cardiac Arrythmias: 60
Depression (SSRI): 62
Diabetes: 57
Hepatits C (HCV): 47
Incontinence: 40
Migraine (acute): 52
Migraine (prophylaxis)50
Oncology: 25
Rheumatoid arthritis 50
Schizophrenia: 60


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chief; drugs; glaxo; health; healthcare; medicine; most; patients; prescriptiondrugs; work
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To: blam
Drugs for hypertension (high blood pressure) are conspicuously absent from the list.
21 posted on 12/07/2003 6:15:15 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Cicero
When fighting cancer time is a crucial factor. Beleive it or not there are many trial or experimental drugs that you can opt for. The question is which drug. For obvious reasons you can only participate in one trial at a time. I would gladly undergo a test that kept me from wasting precious time not to mention side effects.
22 posted on 12/07/2003 6:19:07 PM PST by reed_inthe_wind
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To: cajungirl
I think you are correct about the diabetes.
23 posted on 12/07/2003 6:24:00 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Is that what they call grit in Fort Smith? We call it something else in Yell County." Mattie Ross)
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To: RJCogburn
Except Insulin doesn't cure diabetes.
24 posted on 12/07/2003 6:34:14 PM PST by sharkhawk (I want to go to St. Somewhere)
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To: Indie
"I wonder what his hidden agenda could be??"

Gene testing for everyone. Custom drugs based on the results of the gene test?

25 posted on 12/07/2003 6:36:28 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
That's what doctors are for--to evaluate how effective any drug therapy they provide really is. What's scary is that health insurance companies and governement policy wonks will take this study to justify using the cheapest generic medications rather than those that actually work for the patient.
26 posted on 12/07/2003 6:41:10 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: NittanyLion
I know someone who has HEP C....IN REMISSION....WITHOUT drugs.....because she could not go through the drug "system." Her husband did research and they went the Chinese Medicine and other natural med route....and btw, she's 70 years old. Her doctors were VERY surprised when she went into remission within a few months of her diagnosis.....she probably got Hep C through heart surgery in years past. It's probably more work that taking the current drug regime, though....I tasted the "concoction" she drinks in the A.M.....it's not the best tasting.
27 posted on 12/07/2003 6:46:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (If Hillary RUNS for Prez........ahhhh...I can't say it.....)
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To: blam
Alcohol and the illegal drugs work about 100% of the time.
28 posted on 12/07/2003 6:47:01 PM PST by aruanan
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To: MizSterious
If you knew anyone who has hepatitis c, you'd understand the scandal that is the standard treatment for that drug. It's essentially like chemo for cancer.

I do know a little about the subject. It turns out that a certain, significant percentage of people with Hep C will progress to cirrhosis and die. Another smaller group will get liver cancer and die. Who should be treated is a question with no clear answer at this point, but many specialists will have a needle biopsy of the liver done which is a pretty benign procedure for most people now.

The standard treatment combines two drugs which are basically antivirals and though often compared to cancer chemo is not composed of antimetabolites. It works about one half the time as you said and has a bunch of side effects. If it works it is worth it. If I had Hep C and advanced changes on a liver biopsy I'd certainly go for it.

At this point I guess it is the best that can be done, which is a lot better than several years ago. I'd hardly call it a scandal.

29 posted on 12/07/2003 6:49:23 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Is that what they call grit in Fort Smith? We call it something else in Yell County." Mattie Ross)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I'm with you....Doctors are good for mending a broken leg, a broken back, a broken heart (physical).....but I WILL ALWAYS look to other methods for mending "diseases." (At least until I run out of options). I have my own story... about allergies.....that took 10 years to fix with regular doctors....and a naturapath helped me do it in less than one year. (After $10,000 nasal surgery, antiobiotics, etc. in previos 10 years) Haven't been on antiobiotics since...
30 posted on 12/07/2003 6:50:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (If Hillary RUNS for Prez........ahhhh...I can't say it.....)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I am happy for you and your sister.

Study after study will demonstrate a placebo effect in the range of 30%. RA is a disease that may wax and wane and have spontaneous remission.

Your anecdotal story is interesting.
31 posted on 12/07/2003 6:53:01 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Is that what they call grit in Fort Smith? We call it something else in Yell County." Mattie Ross)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Did your RA "cure" have anything to do with giving up SUGAR? (Among other things?)
32 posted on 12/07/2003 6:55:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (If Hillary RUNS for Prez........ahhhh...I can't say it.....)
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To: blam
What incentives do the pharmaceutical companies have to develop more effective drugs? It's not like they have to be competitive or anything. Ahh, the magic of socialism.
33 posted on 12/07/2003 7:05:21 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: NittanyLion
I have little doubt that if there was a better med available to treat Hep C, it would be on the market...

Actually, there is a better way to treat Hep C. Intravenous injections of vitamin C for several weeks has been found to wipe out Hep C. A Dr. Cathcart up in northern California does it.

Interesting that this Dr. Cathcart has had great success with his treatment, he's been doing it a long time, but it's not standard treatment, in fact I'd venture to guess you and 99.99999 percent of the population have never heard of his work and his great results. Why is that do you think?

34 posted on 12/07/2003 7:08:32 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Why not go out on a limb, isn't that where the fruit is?)
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To: sharkhawk
Most chemotherapy drugs do not work for all patients. But if they cure 50% of the people who would otherwise die, why would you discontinue them?

I read that to be 25%
Because there is a controversy that they themselves cause cancer.
35 posted on 12/07/2003 7:08:52 PM PST by mlmr (Postig with misspelings for ovr 5 yers)
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To: blam
I'm afraid that list of efficacies is essentially worthless. Within each of the listed diseases there is a wide range of drugs, each of which has a different efficacy. Some of the leading drugs against a particular disease are discontinued now because something better came along, either in terms of efficacy or side effect.

Rheumatoid arthritis, for example, used to be treated with a bizarre-sounding solution of gold salts - it actually did work for some people. Methotrexate came along with a much better efficacy but it causes liver and kidney damage in some patients and with extended usage that percentage goes up. Modern treatments focus less on the symptoms and more on the causes; tumor necrosis factor inhibitors such as Remicade, Enbrel, and Humira are such approaches and have vastly greater efficacy than Methotrexate. Even greater efficacy has been shown with combinations of these drugs.

The downside to these exotics is expense - human proteins are difficult to produce and the purity has to be nearly perfect. If a test to see if they work may be given a patient before therapy begins a very great deal of time and money and especially patient discomfort might be avoided.

36 posted on 12/07/2003 7:23:07 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: goodnesswins
Mine didn't but my sister's did. She was far worse than I. Some of you may remember we were pushing my sister in a wheelchair at the Inauguration
37 posted on 12/07/2003 7:23:41 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We'll bet no political "leaders" on the conservative side pick up on this, which shows that the market is not "free" and its signalling is not working.
38 posted on 12/07/2003 7:30:39 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Pedrobud
Is it OK with you if those for whom naturopathy works, use it, or do you insist that they use very expensive heavy and hard drugs that may not work for them?









39 posted on 12/07/2003 7:32:45 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Auntie Mame
I'd venture to guess you and 99.99999 percent of the population have never heard of his work and his great results. Why is that do you think?

I'd think because he has not published his results in a reputable peer-reviewed publication.

40 posted on 12/08/2003 4:03:58 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Is that what they call grit in Fort Smith? We call it something else in Yell County." Mattie Ross)
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