Cincinnati Mayor Recommends Stun Guns

Abilene Reporter News ^ | Dec 7, 2003 | Associated Press

[Sockdologer]

CINCINNATI (AP) -- Cincinnati's mayor on Sunday urged the city to buy stun guns for its police force in response to the death of a man following a struggle with six officers a week ago.

"I am looking for any avenue to avoid another struggle," Mayor Charlie Luken wrote in an e-mail to City Council members Sunday that asked them to find $1 million in the 2004 budget to pay for the non-lethal weapons.

"While it is unclear whether the incident would have changed if our officers had the latest technology in Tasers, I believe we must equip our police with the very best equipment," Luken wrote.

Nathaniel Jones, 41, died Nov. 30 after the scuffle in a restaurant parking lot. A police cruiser videotape showed the 350-pound man lunging at one officer before he was brought down and struck repeatedly with metal nightsticks.

The coroner ruled Jones' death a homicide but cautioned that the designation did not imply police used excessive force. The direct cause of death was the struggle, the autopsy showed, but Jones also had an enlarged heart and had drugs in his blood.

Jones' family and activist groups have said they will commission independent investigations, adding to probes by police, prosecutors and a citizens' panel. The Justice Department also is gathering information.

About 500 people attended a memorial Saturday for Jones, who was black. His death has focused attention on the racial divide in this city torn by riots in April 2001 after a white police officer shot an unarmed black man who fled arrest.

[Sockdologer]

Phasers on stun.

[sinkspur]

A guy with a heart condition (as Jones did) will likely die on the spot when hit with a stun gun.

Catering to criminals is always a loser. Always.

And it's the cop who will suffer for these ill-advised political solutions.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Nice to keep handy when the wife lips off...

[Sockdologer]

That's horrible :P

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I'm sorry. Just kiddin.

[sigSEGV]

Yeah. That will stop a 350 man on PCP. Stun guns are a joke. I've used them on myself.

[Tijeras_Slim]

You need a new hobby. :)

[eastforker]

But they do work well when the dogs act up.I have three model,100,000 , 300,000, and 500,000 volts.I have only used the 100,000 volts on the dogs once. Now all I have to do is pick it up and zap the air and they settle down right quick.If I was a bettin man I would say the 500,000 volts would bring down a horse,man is it scarry when you zap the air with it.

[pabianice]

Available in just another 148 years...

[eastforker]

Some are mere toys and others are downright nasty.They do work if of the proper votage and applied to the proper place.

[xp38]

Yeah but they also will come with kill settings too.

[Hal.009]

The Cincinnati Police already have "Stun Guns".

Thanks to the Clinton administration, standard issue for all officers is a Smith & Wesson 9mm. semi Automatic.

For all intents and purposes, a 9mm. is a 45mm set on stun!

[bandleader]

Your are CORRECT!If this guy had been hit with a"stun-gun",he probably would have gone into cardiac arrest sooner than he did!The cops would STILL be portayed as MURDERERS!!!!!!!

[bandleader]

RIGHT ON!If I was a cop,I would NEVER carry anything smaller than .40S&W!Preferrably,.45ACP!!Stops Them Evertime Time It's Tried!!!

[Cap'n Crunch]

Stun guns were a joke. These new Tazer's however are the real deal. They're about 10 times more powerful than the old ones.

One of the problems is if the person about to be lit up is wearing very thick clothing. The barbs won't penetrate enough to send the shock.

[Travis McGee]

What would you have done or recommend in this type of case, with a combative 350 pounder on PCP?

[Cobra64]

RIGHT ON!If I was a cop,I would NEVER carry anything smaller than .40S&W!Preferrably,.45ACP!!Stops Them Evertime Time It's Tried!!!

Have y'all ever tried pressing that long bar on the bottom of your keyboard? It works evertime.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

They need to start with defunding the so called self serving " black leaders " who rally the thugs ,theives and rapists into a flurry of hatred towards anyone in a uniform

And the funny part about this is alot of these "leaders " are preachers !

Go figure !

Free speach is a wonderful thing until you use it to try and start a war between the races like these so called "leaders" do then it becomes Treasonous to your own people ! and it becomes hate speach to everyone else !

[sigSEGV]

Wow. I don't think with 45mm there would be anything left of the perp. :)

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

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