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I need a "Screenplay Disease." LOL. Any FReeper doctors available?
self | 12-7-03 | geedee

Posted on 12/07/2003 7:01:44 AM PST by geedee

I need a disease where a dying female offspring requires a bone marrow transplant where a parent, preferably the father, is the ideal donor. Or some disease with a similar type procedure -- the key is the father MUST be able to donate what's required and remain conscious.

In my nearly-finished screenplay the father is the boogie man and the mother is the heroine and the father blackmails the mother to do as he wishes AND in return he promises to be the donor. I've found a gazillion "potentially fatal" diseases with "relatively" simple procedures required but most aren't geared towards the parents being the donors. And I haven't found one where the father is the ideal donor for a female child. So I decided if I could fine one where the parents were ideal donors then I could eliminate the mother for some valid reason and that would leave the father.

If it's believable, experimental diseases are okay. LOL.

Right now, I have the daughter dying of leukemia and the father supplying the bone marrow -- with the proviso that it has to be "experimentally" modified by genetic engineering. Kinda lame, huh?

Well . . . that's why I'm asking for your help! So if anyone can help this writer-wannabe -- it is a helluva story by the way -- I sure need it. This is all I need before I can call the screenplay complete and join the gazillion other dreamers pitching their naive ideas to a shark-dominated Hollyweird.

My heroine has DEFINITE conservative streak in her . . . so it's damn sure unique! LOL.


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To: MississippiMan
Add another writer to the mix. I write primarily novels, but am also working on my second screenplay right now. BTW, not to be discouraging, for we always have to believe we can beat the odds, but did you know that for published novelists, it's on average the fourth novel that gets deemed publishable by the powers that be? For screenwriters, that number zips up to the 10-12 mark according to a number of pros. Writing is definitely a marathon, not a sprint. I'm there for the long haul!

I agree whole-heartedly. Passion and perseverence gets one published, not ability.

I'm 50 years old. I had a college professor a hundred years ago tell me to write, edit, bleed, and sweat over a million words of finished product before I ever contemplated even trying to get something published. It's taken me 28 years to do so -- what with career and family obligations. With this screenplay, I complete my millionth word.

So now I get to try and peddle it along with two completed novels while finishing up nine semi-completed novels. Luckily, my rich and best friend has traveled every step of the way with me. She's just as passionate about the project as I. One needs a champion in your corner now and then and we're going to try to swing the movie-making on our own.

Hang in there. If us conservatives keep kicking at the door, the damn thing has to give way eventually.

61 posted on 12/07/2003 10:25:51 AM PST by geedee (I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position.)
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To: MHGinTN
Re: I love it when conservatives win in Hollywood.

What was the name of the movie with Kevin Bacon, a s a screen writer, made back in the late 80s, early 90s ? "She's having my baby", I think . . . a great movie.

62 posted on 12/07/2003 10:25:58 AM PST by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: MHGinTN
"... I love it when conservatives win in Hollywood."

Things are changing there, and for the better.

63 posted on 12/07/2003 10:26:34 AM PST by international american
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To: geedee
Bone marrow doesn't work that way. You may want to just fake something. When the daughter of a cousin had leukemia, we all got tested. A donor was found, but it was someone unrelated. IOW, the odds are better for finding a match within the family, but for any one individual, family or not, the odds aren't really that good. They keep a worldwide data base of test results to improve the odds.

Maybe you could work it so the father gets tested and he just happens to be the only match.

BTW, the transplant helped my cousin's daughter for several months but then she had a recurrence and died.
64 posted on 12/07/2003 10:31:36 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: geedee
Or some disease with a similar type procedure -- the key is the father MUST be able to donate what's required and remain conscious.

I'm pretty sure the bone marrow donor does not have to lose consciousness to donate. On the other hand, he does not have to be physically present alongside the recipient either. I don't think they remove that much marrow from the donor. They kill the recipient's marrow with radiation down to the last cell (or try to). Supporting the patient in a sterile environment, they implant the donor cells and give them plenty of time to "take" (reproduce, spread, and become established in the new body) before removing the patient from extreme isolation. If the donated cells don't take, the patient is toast, but he or she was out of choices already.

65 posted on 12/07/2003 10:42:26 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: bert
how about Concus laboncus. I used this disease on excuses for college professors for four years and was excused ever time

If I was one of your professors, I would have smacked you upside the head for that! ;-)

66 posted on 12/07/2003 10:48:26 AM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: ChadGore
testicular implant for a Turner's syndrome.... or is that Kleinfelter's syndrome... one of 'em needs testicles. or maybe just a Y-chromosome for the Turner's and too many X's for the Kleinfelter.... gee this screen writing stuff is too confusing. I'm gonna watch fome football. OUT!
67 posted on 12/07/2003 10:48:34 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: dighton
There have been as many as eight or nine amnesia cases on the air at one time.

I remember a situation on, IIRC, "As the World Turns" where one of the characters was laid up for quite some time with locked bowels.

Tried to figure this one as a candidate for father-daughter symbiosis, but all that's done is give me the "locked open" feeling.

68 posted on 12/07/2003 10:51:55 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: geedee
MY PLEASURE
69 posted on 12/07/2003 12:14:57 PM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: geedee
p.s.-I have friends who have had chilgren with leukemia,EWINGS SARCOMA,BURKITTS LYMPHOMA
70 posted on 12/07/2003 12:30:02 PM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: y2k_free_radical
also OSTEOGENIC SARCOMA(primary bone cancer)-another pediatric tumor
71 posted on 12/07/2003 12:41:09 PM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: geedee
Honestly, you've spent "28 years" and your best idea is a "Disease-of-the-Week", "Made-for-TV" movie?

You need to spend some time at this web site.


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72 posted on 12/07/2003 12:52:40 PM PST by handk (All I demand is mindless robotic obedience, and rightly so.)
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To: handk
Honestly, you've spent "28 years" and your best idea is a "Disease-of-the-Week", "Made-for-TV" movie?

You're making an assumption on something that, honestly, you know nothing about. This thread was about finding a disease that would work within my story. You assume that's what the story is about. I didn't say that nor is that what my story's about. It's a small, small part of the story.

ET's main priority was getting back home, to "phone home." But the story wasn't about some extra-terrestrial feeding at AT&T's trough.

But I do appreciate the web site referral and I'll check it out. Any story, even those "Disease-of-the-Week," "Made-for-TV" varieties can always use some more work.

73 posted on 12/07/2003 1:13:42 PM PST by geedee (I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position.)
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To: geedee
Lukemia
74 posted on 12/07/2003 1:14:41 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: geedee
Wow, that's an IMPRESSIVE practice run. Huge kudos, and I hope the dedication pays off for you soon.

I took the more typical route of naivete myself. Wrote the first book, was certain it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and then sent it out to receive millions of rejections. Started on the second, and somewhere along the way I was fortunate enough to find a serious and brutally candid critique group that accepted me. Their first assessment of my work literally brought tears to my eyes, but after a couple of days, I realized they were right. I set out to become a good writer, to learn and hone my craft. Been at it ever since.

I do believe talent is an indispensable component, but it's only a seed. It takes years of work to grow that seed into pro-level writing on the page. There are a few rare exceptions that people love to point to, but those are rare enough that to count on it happening for you is tantamount to planning your retirement around your future lottery winnings.

MM
75 posted on 12/07/2003 1:21:03 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
I took the more typical route of naivete myself. Wrote the first book, was certain it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and then sent it out to receive millions of rejections. Started on the second, and somewhere along the way I was fortunate enough to find a serious and brutally candid critique group that accepted me. Their first assessment of my work literally brought tears to my eyes, but after a couple of days, I realized they were right. I set out to become a good writer, to learn and hone my craft. Been at it ever since.

Yikes! LOL. I know what you mean. I hired my old college professor two years ago to be my "in-house" editor. He's a savage bastard. LOL. But he's edited work for top-of-the-line novelists so one must listen to him. Besides, I'm paying the old codger and if I'm not going to listen to him . . . why in the heck did I hire him in the first place?

My fingers are crossed but he's given me two kudos in the 28 years I've known him . . . for this screenplay and for a novel I just re-finished for the fourth time this year that he's shopping for me now.

He's really an intriguing old fella. Like you, he believes more in talent and ability than I do. He says he's just like a "piano bar" player who took all the courses, went to all the right schools, and bled to the bone to be a concert pianist but he just doesn't have whatever "it" is to be a concert pianist. He says he can recognize talent and marketable projects, he just can't write himself.

Now THAT must be frustrating.

76 posted on 12/07/2003 1:36:53 PM PST by geedee (I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position.)
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To: geedee
I've experienced firsthand that kind of lack of talent your professor speaks of. I desperately wanted to be a successful musician. Worked hard at it for years, but at some point it dawned on me that I just flat didn't have the talent. People around me kept saying, "You should write!" I blew that off for a long time, but finally came around.

MM
77 posted on 12/07/2003 1:44:29 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: geedee
Where do you find the time to go back over the same 'finished' novel four times? I can't find time to write all the stories pounding at my schedule, now! Got a series of freelance vigilante crime fighter novels that desperately need rewriting, but for what? Without connections, I might as well write for me. My literary agent sends the occasional explanation for why this or that piece hasn't been bought. I can't fathom the games being played out, so I write when I have time. I can't imagine what it would be like to be able to write in an office apart from home and the vagaries of demands upon the soul. Is that what wealth provides?
78 posted on 12/07/2003 3:37:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I can't imagine what it would be like to be able to write in an office apart from home and the vagaries of demands upon the soul. Is that what wealth provides?

LOL. I'm not wealthy, but I did retire two years ago when I was 48 and, yes, that's all I do is write.

I've always known I wanted to be a writer. Always. And I planned accordingly. I meticulously planned every detail . . . I didn't just say, "Hey, I want to be a writer one day." I planned everything. I scheduled my days around writing.

Like you, for the first thirty years -- I started working on my first novel when I was 18 -- I worked on it as I could. I minored in English Lit at college. I took seminars at night and on weekends. I went to writers' retreats. I went to editor/agent seminars. I took almost every course Writer's Digest offers. I took other correspondence courses. I hired editors and reviewers every five years to critique my progress. I stayed in contact with my old college professor . . . and he kept me on the straight and narrow. Hell, I know him so well I was Best Man at his son's wedding. LOL.

But, most importantly, don't forget . . . I've published SQUAT . . . NADA.

All I have is a plan. Plans don't get novels published or screenplays made into movies. I feel pretty good about my chances . . . but the odds are still probably no better than, oh say, one in five that I get my screenplay made into a movie -- even spending every dime I have -- and I probably only have a 5% chance of getting a novel published. But I'm 100% certain that I'll be a successful novelist and movie producer/screenwriter.

That's why it's called dreaming.

Writers don't write because they want to. Writers write because they have to. Something happened three months ago where I couldn't write all day . . . and I got physically ill. It was like I was having withdrawal pains.

Am I obsessed with it? Probably. But I assure you, even without having read ANY of your efforts, I'm not any better at writing than you are. If I'm ever successful, it'll be because I was lucky.

But I've also found that the degree of luck one has is directly proportional to how hard one works. If you keep working at it, if you believe . . . TRULY BELIEVE . . . and don't let anyone take your dreams from you, YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.

Maybe you need to kick your agent in the ass. Maybe you need to peddle your wares yourself. I know, I know . . . every How To book and every Experienced person in the publishing world says you must have an agent. I say they're full of cacca. I say no one can be a better advocate for me than me. That's why I'm willing to spend my life-savings on my screenplay. Because I believe in me.

A writer-friend had the same kinds of problems you're having with her agent. I told her my philosophy about it. Nora Somebody . . . I never can remember her name, Roberts? maybe . . . anyway, some author who wrote a similar genre as my friend was signing books near her home. My friend waited until the book signing was over and approached the author. I told her . . . "Just give her one page of your novel, not the whole damn thing. Just one page." She did, saying, "Please read just this one page. I'm a good writer now. But I can do better with some professional help. If you like the first page, would you read the first chapter? And if you like the first chapter, would you . . ."

The results? Sadly, I can't give you the complete results now. But her ENTIRE manuscript is currently being read by acquisisition editors at FOUR MAJOR NEW YAWK PUBLISHERS! She's fired her agent.

You're your best salesman. I've read enough of your stuff on FR to know you've got the gorilla juice to do it. SO DO IT! DON'T TALK ABOUT IT! DO IT! I don't know where you live in Tennessee but you have to be close to some big city where an author will be. Or there has to be some major acquisition center around you somewhere. If you can't take off work on Mondays thru Fridays, go on a Saturday. Sell your work! Sell yourself! Don't feel sorry for yourself! Do it! Do it!

Hell, I'll even go with you if you'll come to God's Country . . . Texas. I'm a shameless jackass. If I believe in your work, I know damn well I can get someone to read it who has the ability to get it published.

You're a good FReeper. You've been kind to me on this thread and several others. You can do it. I know you can. Get your back bowed up. Do it!

I'm sorry if I got revved up . . . but I'm passionate as hell about writing and the shaft most writers get. Check the jackets of new novels. I know this is a generality I shouldn't make but, hell, I'm shameless, remember? I read the jackets and the pedigrees of the authors and the first thing I think about is inbreeding. This writer is either a relative of that writer . . . or knows that writer's great aunt . . . or is Jesse Jackson's illegitimate and gay son . . . or . . . This crap goes on continuously and forever and I get so pissed off because I know several . . . hell, hundreds of talented writers who can't even get their stuff read.

And it's even worse if you have a conservative bend to your writing . . . and they're not politically-based.

So please forgive my preaching and the length of this reply. I'm a shameless, passionate jackass.

79 posted on 12/07/2003 4:36:31 PM PST by geedee (I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position.)
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To: geedee
beta thalassemia major, paroxymal nocturnal hemoglobinuria (interesting course of disease) , aplastic anemia, non-hodgkins lymphona, myelofibrosis. If its a young child acute lymphoblastic leukemia is most common type of leukemia. If you have any questions, you know where to find me!!
80 posted on 12/07/2003 7:15:10 PM PST by Coroner
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