Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 7 Dec 2003

Various big media television networks ^ | 7 Dec 2003 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, December 7th, 2003

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. and former Vermont governor Howard Dean (D).

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY).

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Israeli justice minister Yossi Beilin, former Palestinian information minister Yasser Abed Rabbo and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY).

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-CT); King Abdullah of Jordan; Dore Gold, adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon; former Palestinian information minister Yasser Rabbo; Israeli justice minister Yossi Beilin; and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card.

[CyberAnt]

Larger than we had in 1992 .. when we knew the Clintons were a disaster for America.

And .. what we know .. we can translate to America. We can use lists of groups, lists of media. The media needs to know WE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT HER.

Will it be difficult; will it be a 24/7 job .. you bet it will. Since when has the difficulty of a job stopped us from competing AND WINNING.

[CyberAnt]

I'm not relying on the mainstream media to do our job.

[thesummerwind]

The media needs to know WE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT HER.

Well then, after you tell "The media" that "WE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT HER", what do you think they're going to do for you and me and Bush?

[thesummerwind]

Good.

[thesummerwind]

I'm with you Ant!

[thesummerwind]

Wouldn't that be fun! The next 11 months are going to be as fitful and draining as "The Seven Weeks in Hell" after the election 2000. I almost died in those weeks. Thank God for good Florida Circuit Court judge N. Sanders Sauls who dismissed Al Gore’s legal challenge to the state’s certified result. He kept me alive with his good sense! He hepled save this country. He ought to be on a coin!

But can you imagine what this is going to turn into with the hate so virulent on the left?

Unbelievable!

[Gunder]

Good one! The resemblance is uncanny. :-)

Must confess, I think Howard Dean is a pretty good looking guy.

[thesummerwind]

Rupert never let her wear these pants. ;)

[CyberAnt]

I'm not expecting the mainstream media to do anything for me.

However, the recent CBS mess with the Reagans has proven to me that our influence may be broader than we thought. Advertisers buy space in newspapers. Advertising is a major part of the print media's support. If we cut into that support .. we might be able to cause them to soften their stance on Hillary .. just like CBS gave up running the Reagan movie. Just a thought.

[ntnychik]

Hillary somehow made it to Sen. of NY without having to answer a single substantive question. Scripted and controlled "listening tour" all the way. IMHO she won it when Lazio challenged her and moved toward her podium. Offended all the educated white soccer Mom-type women. She's already shown she can control the press. I see no reason why she can't do that on the national level. I think you're both right that special strategery will be needed.

[thesummerwind]

Wallace asked him why he (Dean) thought the theory (prior knowledge and Bush) was such an interesting theory. Dean then gulped, paused, stammered, mis-spoke and acted the fool.

I only wish Wallace would have asked him about the military deferal-bad back/eight month ski bum episode. But, as someone told me before, that embarrassment may be better to hold off until later, when it really may be needed.

Dean will blow!

[Southack]

One of the Clinton's more successful political tricks is to use one of their stalwart supporters in a phony attack against them.

Hillary, for instance, was never more popular than when she was a victim of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, even though no such VRWC ever existed, save for the statements of a few Democrats.

I'm sure that a few amongst our midst will fall for her diehard fundraiser Tonken's phony attacks, too.

Once again she'll be able to play the wronged "victim", only to have her friend Tonken come clean with an about-face at the appropriate moment.

[texasbluebell]

Hehehe.

[backhoe]

"Yes, freepers and some others know, but I'd estimate at least 90% of American voters don't know the details that you know.

You see, you're well aware of what we all know about the Clintons. But those really ugly details that can sway votes are lost on most Americans because of the mainstream media cover."

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You are absolutely correct- the media, both press & entertainment divisions, shamelessly promoted the Clintons rise to power, and studiously "spun" the public's attention away from the scandals time and again.

Mona Charen once noted that "TV announces the importance of things"-- if the public doesn't hear about a given story, repeatedly, on TV and in the headlines, for days & days, they do not think it is worthy of attention.

Most people are too busy with the chores of everyday living to care unless they are repeatedly whacked over the head by a subject again and again.

Reed Irvine at Accuracy in Media observed years ago the "if the mainstream press does not like a story, they simply do not talk about it." Think back over events of the nineteen-nineties, which I have dubbed "The Decade of Fraud(s)" and think about all the stories that were ignored, spun, or dismissed with "we already covered that and nobody is interested..."

[Gritty]

Hillary... She stands absolutely no chance of winning on a national stage;... Conservative turnout would be immense.

In a fair election, you are probably correct.

But, this next election will be one of the crookedest ever, especially if she is on the Ticket. The dead will resurrect to vote in every major city in the country, the blacks and homeless will be bussed endlessly from poll to poll, the crooked election workers will be voting the no-shows after the bell gongs, women will vote for her 65/35 just because she is a woman (sic), and the Media will swoon in chorus - never asking a single tough question just the usual touch-feely stuff she got in her NY campaign (just look at today's perfomance).

She's formidible and she is likely to win if she runs.

Remember how everybody here thought Bush would win by a landslide because of the "broken-glass Republicans"? Don't think this one will be any easier!

[cajungirl]

Do you know that hillary polls better than any other dem running,,she consistantly gets 40 plus percent of the vote. Now if you want to minimize that, be my guest. I say we quit using bad words, quit the calling her fat, cow, etc, quit referring to whitewater. Start dissecting what she says now, what she does now, her manner of deflecting questions, her harsh intimidating laugh, her treason in Iraq. That will work, we need to deconstruct her and pray that she gets unmasks somewhere and it gets reported. A spy in her inner circle would be swell. I want Dean to go at her.

[thesummerwind]

Your hearts in the right place. That's good.

If we work together, we'll figure out a way to pull this off. But I just want to refer you and others to one thing. May 31, 1969. LIFE magazine began creating 'The Hillary Starship'. They've been doing it relentlessly ever since.

Named one of 'The 100 Most Influential Lawyers' in the country ---what a crock.

Keep this in mind, Ant, when you think of changing or influencing the mainstream media in any way before the 2004 election. ----A while back, Hillary told the American people that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, of Mount Everest fame. Unfortunately, dear Edmund was an obscure bee-keeper in New Zealand when she was born! Dear Edmund didn't scale the mountain until six years after she unhappily appeared on this mortal coil.

Do you think the media exposed that sweet whopper?

You won't change these powerful socialist/communists in the mainstream media. They're enemies of the country, and they've been at it for decades. They're real good at it.

We will need another miracle to defeat them. O.K., let's do it.

[thesummerwind]

And they used to feed a reporter false but negative info about them, and when the story was reported, she looked good and the reporter was screwed. Perfect! More sympathy.

[thesummerwind]

Amen!......just move on...........

[thesummerwind]

The dead will resurrect to vote in every major city in the country

How do Democrats win a national election?

One graveyard at a time!