House of Saud in 'panic' over al-Qaida

WorldNetDaily.Com ^ | Posted: December 6, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern | © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

[endthematrix]

Well to be honest I don't think the US should. I have no financial interest there. But many in the the US do.

"Kinda hard to prop up this scandelous regeim with no troops."

When this goes south, the US Calvary will arrive.

[Cronos]

India and North Korea aren't about to use their nukes agains the US. THey have some sanity -- as the Russians and now the Chicoms have -- they have some sense of self preservation. But the islamics in Pakistan have no such sense, no sense actually, they would consider it 'martyrdom' just as they consider suicide bombers as 'martyrs'

[endthematrix]

We're preachin' to the choir now. Any more inside scoops on the issue?

[Cronos]

Scoops? It's known that Pakistan is overrun with Islamic nutcases. They do have amilitary regime in power. They also have nukes from the Chinese (a nice flanking maneouvre by the chicoms). Where's the scoop in that?

[jaykay]

"The war on terror is, in one sense, a Saudi civil war that the Royal Family has successfully exported to the rest of the world. The rest of the world should see that it's repatriated." - Mark Steyn

Good, let the Saudi royals eat some of the sh!tburgers they've cooked up for us.

[Dick Vomer]

Exactly how do you propose to "appropriate" the Pakistani nukes? Walk in and knock on the door to the bunkers? "Excuse me, we're here to collect your nukes" is not likely to work.

Nope, I think we'll let the Indians do our "wet" work. They are itching to kick Paki- a$$.

[tkathy]

They are reaping the whirlwind of their own creation. The money they have spent in murdering countless others will ultimately be spent in murdering themselves.

[Diogenesis]

What goes around, sometimes comes around.

The Saudis deserve whatever they get.

[lentulusgracchus]

Exactly -- WMD in the hands of Islamics is madness. WMD in the hands of a military regime is dangerous. WMD in the hands of a Islamic fascist regime (note Mushie ain't quite the loonie islamic fundie but hie army is heavily infiltrated with Islamic fundamentalists -- that was hte policy of hte former Presidente for life: Zia Huqq)is...... well, you get the picture.

It's getting longer and longer odds against our reestablishing containment, and keeping nuclear weapons away from Al-Q'aeda.

I keep remembering a translation of Nostradamus I once saw, back when he was momentarily the rage, during the Gulf War, about his third great tyrant, the one who would succeed Napoleon and the Second Great Tyrant. It was Josef Goebbels's wife, IIRC, who pointed out a quatrain in Nostradamus about the Second Great Tyrant, and named him: "Hister". So very close.......

But the Third Great Tyrant he called "the man in the blue turban", and it seemed that he attacked many countries. Reading Nostradamus is like reading mud, so that anyone who wants to can have a go -- all he needs is a PhD equivalent in French, and especially in Middle French, and he is ready to begin translating. More or less.

Well, Nostradamus and a dollar will get you a decent cup of coffee, but I can't help but wonder if the old guy didn't see something. Especially after Frau Goebbels's call.

I think it's pretty long odds against us and the President's effort to keep one or more of our big cities from getting nailed with a nuclear or biological weapon.

I hope the President succeeds and we win. But the odds don't look that hot right now.

[MeekOneGOP]

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

It's a fact the ADMINISTRATION won't let that house fall.

It's a fact. The U.S. government, past and present,and the Bush family especially, are deep, deep in bed with the Saudis. Carlysle, Baker, Bush Sr., Cheney etc....The U.S will NEVER let the House of Saud fall. The only reason they still exist is because of us. Don't jump me....Ford, Carter, Clinton etc. were all in on the game too. The House will only fall when the oil runs out. So much for principles.

[lentulusgracchus]

The war would be a war between rival dynasties and the military may not want to die to keep the greedy saud family in power.

If OBL wins, there will be consequences for many countries besides Saudi. He is an Islamofascist fanatic and a dreamer, and he wants the map back the way it was 1100 years ago, when Spain was mostly Moorish (al-Andalus, they called it -- OBL goes on about the "loss" of Spain as if it were last year), and the caliphates were vigorous from the Atlantic Ocean to India.

If he wins control of the shrines of Islam, he'll go after Israel and the West next, and I would expect him to use oil, WMD and terrorism. Everything, in other words, in order to inflict a decisive strategic and moral defeat on the West and destroy the prestige of European civilization.

That's what really fries his grits -- the association with European civilization of the prestige of leadership in so many of the arts and sciences, in engineering, and so on. He can't stand that -- it's like blasphemy.

[Diogenesis]

What goes around, sometimes comes around.

The Saudis deserve whatever they get.

[Tripleplay]

It's a fact. The U.S. government, past and present,and the Bush family especially, are deep, deep in bed with the Saudis. Carlysle, Baker, Bush Sr., Cheney etc....The U.S will NEVER let the House of Saud fall. The only reason they still exist is because of us. Don't jump me....Ford, Carter, Clinton etc. were all in on the game too. The House will only fall when the oil runs out. So much for principles.

I agree..............IMO Saudi money has made millionaires and friends in Washington for decades. Surely, Washington insiders knew of the funding of madrases to preach radical islam (and the killing of innocent civilians) long before it became public knowledge. Also, why did Kissinger et al. refuse to lead an investigation of Saudi activities which was proposed about a year ago?

[highlander_UW]

Strangely enough -- bin LAden's family is part of the Saud family's inner circle -- most of the mega building projects in Saudi A are built by the bin Ladens

Within the last couple of months I saw an article that indicated the Bin Laden family had won a contract to manage some of the Saudi national airports.

[M.K. Borders]

A bloody take-no-prisoners civil war in Saudi Arabia might be exactly what Islam needs

The Saudis are no friends of ours, and never have been, though they like our toys. Certainly Al-queda is no friend.

Long past time for the State Department to implement the policies of Ronald the Great.Encourage your enemies to destroy one another.

[section9]

Of course there are long odds against us. That is where deterrence comes in. I am quite sure that we have told the Arab League states in private that it is in their interest to kill Al Qaeda. If they fail, we will kill them. In a day.

It was Steven den Beste who pointed out that this war will end in one of two ways; with America triumphant and the Arab world making progress towards representative government, or with American triumphant and the Arab world obliterated by a retaliatory barrage of thermonuclear warheads.

The Arabs know this. It is why they are afraid.

Oh, and AQ? Trust me on this. The Saudis will negotiate with the Israelis to clean up this little matter.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[highlander_UW]

A bloody take-no-prisoners civil war in Saudi Arabia might be exactly what Islam needs.

I just suggest that you be careful for what you wish for. Consider the results if the Islamists win and take control of Saudi Arabia?

[Travis McGee]

If AQ won control of SA, then they would make the next fatal step outside of their borders, and 20 minutes later, mecca and medina would be glowing craters. Then we would discover if Mad Mo's Insane Murder Cult could exist after Allahs all-powerful black moon-god rock was shown conclusively to be no match for a nuclear warhead.

That's the "alternateve B" end game to this dance, the only question is whether it happens in one year or twenty. Personally, I'd take my chances on a Saudi civil war, resulting in the deaths of 100s of 1000s of pro-jihadists. Similar in scale to what happened to the communists in Indonesia a generation ago.

[little jeremiah]

Is this a general AQ or terrorism list or a Saudi list? If it's an AQ/terrorism one please add my name - thanks.