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The Current Military Situation in Iraq --- Excerpt
Center for Strategic and International Studies (it's a PDF document) ^ | November 14, 2003 | Anthony H. Cordesman

Posted on 12/05/2003 8:14:06 PM PST by First_Salute

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1 posted on 12/05/2003 8:14:06 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; snopercod; joanie-f
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2 posted on 12/05/2003 8:16:20 PM PST by First_Salute
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3 posted on 12/05/2003 8:18:20 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
Bookmarked for later read....BTTT !
4 posted on 12/05/2003 8:43:28 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: First_Salute
SITREP - IRAQ
5 posted on 12/05/2003 8:54:36 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: First_Salute
bump for later and thanks
6 posted on 12/05/2003 9:12:47 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: First_Salute
Very illuminating about what is actually happening. Thank you for posting it. Our guys over there have a heck of a job, and deserve all the credit in the world.
7 posted on 12/05/2003 9:53:01 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Matthew James; SLB; river rat; patton; First_Salute
Best Iraq sitrep I have seen.
8 posted on 12/05/2003 11:16:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: First_Salute
This is the type of thing that the public needs to see, but never will. The detail is too much for most and it is too long for the press to use... not that they would anyway.

Very interesting and informative post.
9 posted on 12/05/2003 11:42:49 PM PST by JSteff
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Add to the Stack
10 posted on 12/06/2003 6:10:41 AM PST by centurion316
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To: First_Salute
Bump for later. Thanks for posting this.
11 posted on 12/06/2003 6:13:37 AM PST by michaelt
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To: First_Salute; MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thank you for the ping, and for sharing this, First_Salute. Bookmarked.
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Fyi, important. Please read the whole report.

I'm surprised the author says technology is being stressed as the solution to our problems on the ground. Inside the Pentagon, perhaps ~ not by the DoD ~ to the public. We get far more reports on 'winning hearts and minds' from CPA and CENTCOM.

Also, every Commanding officer on the ground in Iraq says he doesn't need more troops. Gen. Sanchez, supposedly L. Paul Bremer's more capable 'co-worker' ~ has not asked for more troops and says they aren't necessary. The Pres. and the SOD have both repeatedly stated that whatever Gen. Abizaid and Sanchez need ~ they will get.

Unless, of course, the troops are needed but those in positions of authority have decided that it's far more dangerous to re-institute the draft while the enemy has control of the press, Universities and international, heavily funded, anti-American activist groups ~ in which case our troops would be placed in far greater danger, as the homefront would probably erupt in a civil war this time ~ post 911, and the left sowing hate daily. The war in Iraq would end ~ and so would freedom for Iraq, the enemy would win....we ~ America, freedom, civilization, the world ~ would lose, imho.

Still, great report.

12 posted on 12/06/2003 6:57:05 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ( "Our military is full of the finest people on the face of the earth." ~ Pres. Bush, Baghdad)
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Look at #5 Troops.He indicates we don't need more American or foreign troops,just Iraqi troops.
13 posted on 12/06/2003 7:05:56 AM PST by MEG33
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Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!
14 posted on 12/06/2003 7:25:33 AM PST by blackie
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Bump.
15 posted on 12/06/2003 8:07:33 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The author did mention that one commander wished for more troops.

Myself, I long ago wished that we had some support system set up to provide the technology by which Iraqi's could quickly establish their own free press, and thus exercise their sovereignty and its place under God (a.k.a. in most parts "under Allah") while also asserting their sovereignty above their Constitution, above their goverment, above their governors, and above their government agents.

So I was glad to see Tony's notes on the need for better and much more sources of news and information.

I think, not just ultimately, but actually right now, the real gains are to be made as small groups of Iraqi's associate for the purpose of ensuring and enduring freedom. Their meetings require protection, and also their thoughts require confirmation, in that, in the free press, they also see where others are with them, and so that foundation for their liberty grows.

Thanks for reading all the stuff.

I'm now having to take a long break from FR and wish you, and all fighters for our liberty, well and a Merry Christmas.

16 posted on 12/06/2003 8:13:57 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
The author did mention that one commander wished for more troops.

My apologies. I was referring to the most recent comments made by Gen Sanchez (following months of similar comments from made by military leaders). Am unable to find the quote. Will keep searching and link back if I do.

Here's a recent, typical exchange from 'the top':


DoD News Briefing - Secretary Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers ~
re. troop rotation and force strength, 11/06/03
 
Q:  Mr. Secretary, as you know, there are many vocal members of Congress calling for more U.S. boots on the ground in Iraq, including Senator McCain, who says that more U.S. troops are needed to launch an effective counterinsurgency campaign, and especially in the wake of these increased attacks as of late.  How do you respond to that now that you are drawing down the number of U.S. troops, even though perhaps the capability is changing?

     Rumsfeld:  Just so we get a fix on the number of U.S. troops, the number of U.S. troops is a portion of the total troops in the country, the other elements being coalition forces and Iraqis. And the number --

     Q:  (Off mike.) -- my question --

     Rumsfeld:  Shh-shh!  The total number of troops, security forces in the country, is going up steadily.  It has been for four months.

     Second, I don't know that there are "many" members of Congress -- I hear a few.  There's 535 members of the House and Senate.  And I have not seen anything approximating a large number of them doing what you've said they're doing.

     Senator McCain is a senior member of the Armed Services Committee and has a distinguished military record.  And needless to say, when he makes recommendations, people think about them and consider them and discuss them.  We had discussions this morning on that very subject. (Aside.)   Just a minute.  We talked to General Sanchez, and he and General Abizaid have been meeting with all of the commanders.  And I do not -- I have not been told of a single military commander in CENTCOM, in Iraq, who is recommending additional U.S. military forces; not one.

     Now if General Sanchez and General Abizaid came to General Myers and said, "We believe we need additional U.S. forces," and General Myers came to me, we would go to the president and we would recommend additional U.S. forces.  No one has recommended that.  And there are a lot of good reasons why they don't.  They believe that it is important to have Iraqis take increasing responsibility.  The Iraqis admittedly don't have the training our forces do.  They tend not to have the equipment our forces do.  They tend not to have the experience our forces do.

     On the other hand, they do speak the language, they do live in the neighborhood, they do have situational awareness, which is different from someone who's in from another country.  And the progress that's been made with joint patrols has been impressive.

     Myers:  The only thing I would add is that as you think about the security situation in this very complex environment, that it -- as the secretary said earlier, that numbers do not equate to capabilities.

     For instance, the Stryker Brigade that is on its way, as we speak, to Iraq will be a very effective unit because of the way it's structured.  It's a very modern structure that the Army has devised for that brigade and the ones that follow it, up to six, I think, eventually, perhaps, if the secretary approves all those.  And that's going to help.

     And the way we're structuring these forces that are going in is different than the way we structured the forces that are in there now. For instance, we're going to have a lot more infantry.  Even though we'll have armored divisions going in, they're not going to go in with all their armor, because that's not what the need is right now.  So their capabilities will not equate the capabilities -- in fact, we think they'll be superior.  And that's part of the answer.

     The other part of the answer is that you just can't carve out the security piece and say more forces are going to help -- in my view, more forces are going to help us with the problem of making progress in Iraq like we want to make.  There are several other things that have to come along simultaneously.  The governance piece has to come along very well.  The economy, the infrastructure and, probably just as importantly, how you communicate where we're headed to the Iraqi   people, to the region, to the world -- those are all pieces of it. And so it doesn't come down to -- it's just impossible to boil it down to numbers.          ~ http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20031106-secdef0862.html


Thanks for the lessons, First_Salute.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

17 posted on 12/06/2003 11:50:06 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ( "Our military is full of the finest people on the face of the earth." ~ Pres. Bush, Baghdad)
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Thanks for the ping, RC! A very good detailed report.
18 posted on 12/06/2003 1:11:43 PM PST by windchime
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bttt
19 posted on 12/06/2003 1:23:54 PM PST by Matthew James (SPEARHEAD!)
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