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Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly?
UM List ^ | Tim Wilkins

Posted on 12/05/2003 5:50:56 AM PST by xzins

Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly? Proponents of same-sex "marriage" owe us an answer

by Tim Wilkins

(part of this article may be unsuitable for young readers)

The Physiology of Mankind

"Love and marriage, love and marriage, go together like a horse and carriage. This I tell ya, brother, you can't have one without the other." Neither can you have a marrriage without a man and a woman, unless you’re the Massacheutts Supreme Court–to whom I ask the following question.

Why is one hundred percent of the homosexual population physiologically heterosexual?

When I asked that question before a group of university students, one said the question contained a presumption–that homosexuals were physiologically heterosexual. I am always open to differing views, yet he offered no explanation. In postmodernism one need not waste syllables buttressing one’s views—verbalizing a belief automatically makes it factual. Hubert Humphrey said, "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." The student reminded me of a man who, on another occasion, steadfastly disagreed when I said that at conception the man determines the sex of the child. "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but he does not have a right to his own set of facts."

My statement regarding human physiology is neither sexist nor politically motivated. It is a fact.

Look at this statement from two perspectives—first, a theological perspective and second, a medical perspective.

If in fact God creates some people as homosexuals, we must conclude that God has played a cruel joke on them. He has engineered their minds and emotions for attraction to the same-sex and yet created their physiology to be in direct opposition to that attraction. Such an act would be malicious. Only a sadistic god would conceive and conduct such a horrific deed.

Look at the statement from a medical perspective! If homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon—a legitimate alternative to Mankind’s expression of sexuality, we would have to conclude that homosexuals bear severe physiological anomalies.

I am aware the previous conclusion may infuriate some; few things anger people more than uttering a logical thought. Truth has always angered people—which is why some wise sage cautioned, "Tell the truth and run!"

But alas I do not believe the conclusion because I do not believe homosexuality to be moral.

If for no other reason, homosexuality is illegitimate in that it is anatomically unsuitable.

The Ingenuity of the Physical Body

Regardless from where you believe Mankind originated, we must agree that the human body is the work of a genius. How do we account for tear ducts that automatically flush the eye when a microscopic grain of sand invades them? Who can fathom how an arm or leg produces chill bumps, which in turn raises the hairs on those limbs in order to reduce the amount of body heat being expended by a cold wind?

These mysteries of the human body include libido. When sexually aroused, the woman’s body changes through a series of preparations. Her vagina lengthens for a distinct reason. Her body, equipped with Bartholin’s gland, produces lubrication for a distinct reason. More intricate than any scientific invention ever conceived or constructed, the outer third of her vagina swells with blood for a distinct reason. The Psalmist was correct--we are "fearfully and wonderfully made." (Psalm 139:14)

But these incredible workings lead us to another question which refuses to be ignored--why would such physiological changes occur in homosexual women when the changes do nothing to assist sexual interaction?

One cannot simply dismiss the question as irrelevant. If God makes no mistakes, and He does not, what accounts for this dichotomy among homosexuals? If homosexuality is "natural" why the inappropriate and unnecessary body changes?

No legitimate answer exists. God desires each of us to become personally what He has created us to be physiologically, biologically and anatomically.

The Universality of Sin

The answer to why homosexuality exists is sin—a universal condition unconfined to homosexuals; one hundred percent of the world’s population are sinners. "…for all have sinned and come short of God’s glory." (Romans 3:23)

And the answer to sin is Jesus Christ who, by the way, performed His first miracle during the marriage of a man and a woman.

The proponents of homosexual "marriage" appear to have all the answers. What say ye? Is this phenomenon a cruel joke or a medical anomaly?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: form; function; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; physiology; prisoners
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To: xzins
Regardless from where you believe Mankind originated, we must agree that the human body is the work of a genius.

Actually, the uphill-draining sinuses, the appendix, the lower back, etc give me the impression that it's the work of Microsoft.

141 posted on 12/05/2003 10:13:24 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Theo
Similarly, I believe some people can be born with psychological defects that leave them with homosexual desires.

No genetic source for this disease has ever been found. Likewise, after death, this disease is undetectable. That is, you can tell an alcoholic was an alcoholic after death. you can determine that someone had heart disease, cancer etc. But you cannot tell that a corpse had Same-sex Attraction Disorder (SAD)

SAD is a totally environmental disease

142 posted on 12/05/2003 10:14:03 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: adam_az
That's why religion is an exceedingly bad basis for argument, particularly when it takes the form of the bedrock facts of an argument.

Well, then, on that basis I guess you'd have to toss out any conception of morality that does not follow the empirically observable facts of nature.

Of course, that would only leave us with relativist moralities like Utilitarianism, Social Darwinism, and Might Makes Right -- but hey, what the heck, it's scientifically based, right?

As it happens, religion is an exceedingly good basis for certain types of argument. What's an exceedingly bad argument is to take your approach, and to irrationally rule out the possible existence of God.

143 posted on 12/05/2003 10:14:30 AM PST by r9etb
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To: adam_az
It was no insult, just a direct observation like yours about gravity. If you passed third grade reading comprehension you should be able to understand his premise. Apparently you cannot.
144 posted on 12/05/2003 10:14:52 AM PST by Dad was my hero
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To: r9etb
That's a load of crap, since RELIGION was invented by humans, even if God exists.
145 posted on 12/05/2003 10:16:59 AM PST by adam_az
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To: Dad was my hero
You're insulting me because I have a deeper understanding of his article than you have the capability to grasp. That's pretty funny.
146 posted on 12/05/2003 10:18:16 AM PST by adam_az
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Ok, so where do you stand on the issue of male lesbians?

Male lesbian? Can not compute.
147 posted on 12/05/2003 10:19:01 AM PST by adam_az
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To: B-Chan
Descartes put it best: Cogito, ergo sum, “I think, therefore I am”.

Augggh! Descartes philosophy is crap! And very non-Catholic!

148 posted on 12/05/2003 10:19:14 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: steve-b
Actually, the uphill-draining sinuses, the appendix, the lower back, etc give me the impression that it's the work of Microsoft.

We'll have 150 pounds of dirt delivered to your doorstep by 5:00 PM. You have the weekend to fashion it into a better, living, breathing, procreating model.

On second thought, why should you have a head start? Create your own space-time and dirt. ;-)

149 posted on 12/05/2003 10:22:08 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Occam slices all of those dialectical arguments with his Razor.
150 posted on 12/05/2003 10:23:32 AM PST by adam_az
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Being Homosexual isn't a Mental Illness, like any other sex outside of Marriage between a Man and a Woman, it's a Sin

Actually it's both. It's a disease (like any other addiction) in that it is treatable and curable (And unlike other addictions, contagious). Most addictions are not curable until the patient realizes he's sick. Once someone realizes that he has SAD he is easily cured.

Now since the SIN is the behavior of homosexuality and not the mere tendency to it someone can suffer the disease but never act on it and they are sick but sin-free.

Likewise an alcoholic is not sinful until he surrenders to his disease and drinks (to the point of drunkeness and beyond). He has the tendency toward alcohol abuse but if he doesn't drink he doesn't sin.

I chose alcoholism as there is a certain genetic component to it so someone who has never drank can still be determined to be afflicted with the disease. 'Homosexuality' has no genetic component and therefore can't be detected except through the behavior, however, someone who doesn't practice the behavior can still have the disease and still needs to be cured of the underlying trauma that causes the disease (else a future outbreak may happen)

151 posted on 12/05/2003 10:24:17 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: adam_az
How does Occam explain the fine-tuning of the universe?
152 posted on 12/05/2003 10:24:46 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: adam_az
"What's the patent number for his device to detect and measure god?"

That would be the human heart and the human brain. God gave you both and expects you to use them.

Nevertheless just like programs and data can be erased in a computer, the user can reprogram his mind and heart to ignore the existence of God. Just like he can reprogram his mind and emotions to desire his own gender. This isn't always the user's fault, sometimes he's abused as a child by another homosexual who helps with the reprogramming.

153 posted on 12/05/2003 10:24:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: adam_az
That's a load of crap, since RELIGION was invented by humans, even if God exists.

LOL!!! Using the same logic, everything you are saying is also a load of crap, since SCIENCE was invented by humans, even if nature exists.

154 posted on 12/05/2003 10:26:16 AM PST by r9etb
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To: adam_az
Then how did you end up arguing about whether or not God exists when there is no discussion about God's existence in his article? Yes, I can tell you have a deep understanding based on your posts about screwdrivers and the like. Is it beyond your abilities to admit you might be wrong in construing that the author's discussion about God is to address the theological aspect of creation?

Probably.

I'm not stating that you don't have a few interesting points, just that I don't understand how you became so confused about making his (the author) article into a proof of the existence of God?

From your deeper understanding of matters, enlighten me please.

155 posted on 12/05/2003 10:26:57 AM PST by Dad was my hero
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To: JCEccles
My point was, all of those long dialectical arguments culminated in the idea that, therefore, the answer must be a God. They all fail, because they don't disprove other possible causes, the author just picked the one most comforting to him.

It's the same reason that before we understood the physics of lightning, people said "It must be Zeus! Zeus throwing lightning bolts, that's the explanation!"
156 posted on 12/05/2003 10:28:52 AM PST by adam_az
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To: adam_az
There is a new movie coming out called "The Butterfly Effect." Science-fantasy, but it does remind me that every thought and action of mine impacts on others.
157 posted on 12/05/2003 10:30:10 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: r9etb
"Well, then, on that basis I guess you'd have to toss out any conception of morality that does not follow the empirically observable facts of nature."

That's the comment that I was referring to.

Please keep better track of your thoughts from post to post.
158 posted on 12/05/2003 10:30:36 AM PST by adam_az
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To: Dad was my hero
The article predicates it's hypothesis on the existence of God.

That's why.

If the underlying argument is not provable, then everything based on it is also not provable.

My point earlier on was that there are good reasons not to to engage in particular practices, completely outside the theistic argument about what God "intended." You can't prove he exists, and you can't prove his intent. I think it's more productive to advance those other reasons than the theistic ones.
159 posted on 12/05/2003 10:33:08 AM PST by adam_az
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To: adam_az
That's the comment that I was referring to.

I know. And I was referring to your incessant demand for scientific proof. But given that science was invented by humans one can, using exactly your logic, conclude that all scientific conclusions are a load of crap.

As for my comment concerning morality -- what's your problem with it? I mean, scientifically speaking there's plenty of evidence in favor of the relativist moral systems I mentioned.

Please keep better track of your thoughts from post to post.

Tell you what: why don't you pay more attention to what you're saying, before you open your mouth and remove all doubt.

160 posted on 12/05/2003 10:37:09 AM PST by r9etb
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