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We’ve Been Lied To: Christianity and the Rise of Science
BreakPoint ^ | 4 Dec 03 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 12/04/2003 11:18:40 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

To paraphrase the opening of a popular ESPN show, these four things everyone knows are true: Before Columbus’s first voyage, people thought the world was flat. When Copernicus wrote that the Earth revolved around the Sun, his conclusions came out of nowhere. The “scientific revolution” of the seventeenth century invented science as we know it. And the false beliefs and impediments to science are Christianity’s fault.

There’s just one problem: All four statements are false.

As Rodney Stark writes in his new book, For the Glory of God, “every educated person” of Columbus’s time, especially Christian clergy, “knew the earth was round.” More than 800 years before Columbus’s voyage, Bede, the church historian, taught this, as did Hildegard of Bingen and Thomas Aquinas. The title of the most popular medieval text on astronomy was Sphere, not exactly what you would call a book that said the earth was flat.

As for Copernicus’s sudden flash of insight, Stark quotes the eminent historian L. Bernard Cohen who called that idea “an invention of later historians.” Copernicus “was taught the essential fundamentals leading to his model by his Scholastic professors”—that is, Christian scholars.

That model was “developed gradually by a succession of . . . Scholastic scientists over the previous two centuries.” Building upon their work on orbital mechanics, Copernicus added the “implicit next step.”

Thus, the idea that science was invented in the seventeenth century, “when a weakened Christianity could no longer prevent it,” as it is said, is false. Long before the famed physicist Isaac Newton, clergy like John of Sacrobosco, the author of Sphere, were doing what can be only called science. The Scholastics—Christians—not the Enlightenment, invented modern science.

Three hundred years before Newton, a Scholastic cleric named Jean Buridan anticipated Newton’s First Law of Motion, that a body in motion will stay in motion unless otherwise impeded. It was Buridan, not an Enlightenment luminary, who first proposed that Earth turns on its axis.

In Stark’s words, “Christian theology was necessary for the rise of science.” Science only happened in areas whose worldview was shaped by Christianity, that is, Europe. Many civilizations had alchemy; only Europedeveloped chemistry. Likewise, astrology was practiced everywhere, but only in Europe did it become astronomy.

That’s because Christianity depicted God as a “rational, responsive, dependable, and omnipotent being” who created a universe with a “rational, lawful, stable” structure. These beliefs uniquely led to “faith in the possibility of science.”

So why the Columbus myth? Because, as Stark writes, “the claim of an inevitable and bitter warfare between religion and science has, for more than three centuries, been the primary polemical device used in the atheist attack of faith.” Opponents of Christianity have used bogus accounts like the ones I’ve mentioned not only to discredit Christianity, but also to position themselves as “liberators” of the human mind and spirit.

It’s up to us to set the record straight, and Stark’s book is a great place to start. I think it’s time to tell our neighbors that what everyone knows about Christianity and science is just plain wrong.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 1saveit4churchdamnit; bookreview; charlescolson; christianity; forthegloryofgod; religion; rodneystark; science
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To: Mr. Silverback
As Rodney Stark writes in his new book, For the Glory of God, “every educated person” of Columbus’s time, especially Christian clergy, “knew the earth was round.”

What a ridiculous, unproveable statement.

More than 800 years before Columbus’s voyage, Bede, the church historian, taught this, as did Hildegard of Bingen and Thomas Aquinas.

Can someone please point out exactly where Hildegard von Bingen taught this? I've read her extensively, and don't recall anything even remotely relating to this.

61 posted on 12/04/2003 3:30:02 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: js1138
Feel free to explain a woodpecker.
62 posted on 12/04/2003 3:40:54 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: js1138
which demonstrates that expertise in engineering confers absolutely no insight whatsoever into physics or biology.

This is a classic non-sequitur born of academic imperialism. Unless someone embraces Lyell's unprovable long ages and ignores the evidence for a young earth, he's a heretic, anathama to the scientific establishment. They are no different than Rome in the middle ages.

63 posted on 12/04/2003 4:15:02 PM PST by Lexinom ("No society rises above its idea of God." -unknown)
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To: Jean Chauvin
good post
64 posted on 12/04/2003 4:30:33 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Jean Chauvin
good post

Also, it's little reported that Galileo was a devout believer who considered the priesthood as a vocation.

GALILEO WAS A BELIEVER AND A SCIENTIST.

It's so camp to pass him off as a 20th century, scopes trial-type naturalist....which is a lie.
65 posted on 12/04/2003 4:32:39 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"AUC" means...?

Ab urbe condita, "from the founding of the city". It was ancient Rome's dating system. 1 AD corresponds to 754 AUC.

66 posted on 12/04/2003 4:48:06 PM PST by inquest (Government: Guilty until proven innocent)
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To: Jean Chauvin
"...Eventually, the geocentric or earth-centered view became crystallized into dogma and was held to be as sacred as the Scriptures it was seen to support (Campanella 1639)..."

That's an assertion that has no backing. The language is nice and powerful, but it's powerfully stating an utter lie.

Serious question: Do you know where and how dogma is defined in the Catholic Church? Because if you do, this is something quite easy to fact check on your own.

67 posted on 12/04/2003 6:01:48 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: Mr. Silverback
Feel free to explain a woodpecker.

What did I say to bring that on?

68 posted on 12/04/2003 6:07:50 PM PST by js1138
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Lots of source documents here on the Galileo affair: Trial of Galileo Galilei.
69 posted on 12/04/2003 6:13:07 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: js1138; Mr. Silverback
What did I say to bring that on? ["Feel free to explain a woodpecker."]

Mantra for the threatened worldview. Think of a terrified ingénue menaced by a vampire. Instead of a crucifix, she whips out ... a woodpecker. Somehow, somewhere, you scared the poor silverback. Evidently not a silverback gorilla.

I can remember once having to admit I didn't know how the poor woodpecker got his tongue all twisted up like that, but nevertheless citing Dawkins that "Evolution is smarter than you are." (Which is always taken by creationists to mean that Evolution is some kind of anthropomorphic God to the evos after all.)

The evolution of the woodpecker's tongue.

70 posted on 12/04/2003 6:24:51 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
The better to Kiss you with.
71 posted on 12/04/2003 6:27:31 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
I suppose if you get kissed by a woodpecker you ...

1) feel the earth move, or something,

or,

2) feel like a real knot-head.

72 posted on 12/04/2003 6:32:19 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Mr. Silverback
Yesterday's (Wed.) Breakpoint Commentary debunking a lot of the "witch hunt" mythology was
pretty good.
73 posted on 12/04/2003 6:32:58 PM PST by VOA
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To: VadeRetro
Explain this...


74 posted on 12/04/2003 6:37:47 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
A mutation of some sort. (I assume you mean the one on the left.)
75 posted on 12/04/2003 6:44:00 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Mr. Silverback
Actually Columbus thought the world was pear-shaped. (or, as he described it "like a ladies' breast"). The figures for the circumference of the world were off by a considerable margin, so Columbus, did what any person would have done in the face of a failing theory: invent a new one to explain the old. The earth's circumference was just fine, he reasoned -- It the shape of the earth that baffled the great minds before him. He just happened to find a path that took him to the "stem" of the pear. Up and down the stem took quite a bit of time - and that's why he sailed for so long without seeing land.

Personally, I think he was going loopey.

76 posted on 12/04/2003 6:44:59 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: TEXOKIE
Thank you so much for the ping! It looks interesting!
77 posted on 12/04/2003 7:06:11 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones; GulliverSwift
Ronly Bonly Jones;GulliverSwift


GS>But wasn't Newton pretty devout, too?>>>

RBJ>Nope. In point of fact he was a pagan alchemist.

37 posted on 12/04/2003 1:54:21 PM MST by Ronly Bonly Jones


Even a cursory glance at his Biography would yield:

"Issac Newton was a deeply religious man"

VII RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS AND PERSONALITY Newton also wrote on Judaeo-Christian prophecy, whose decipherment was essential, he thought, to the understanding of God. His book on the subject, which was reprinted well into the Victorian Age, represented lifelong study. Its message was that Christianity went astray in the 4th century AD, when the first Council of Nicaea propounded erroneous doctrines of the nature of Christ. The full extent of Newton's unorthodoxy was recognized only in the present century: but although a critic of accepted Trinitarian dogmas and the Council of Nicaea, he possessed a deep religious sense, venerated the Bible and accepted its account of creation. In late editions of his scientific works he expressed a strong sense of God's providential role in nature.

http://www.newton.cam.ac.uk/newtlife.html

a bondslave to the Christ

chuck


78 posted on 12/04/2003 8:27:34 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Ab Urbe Condita
79 posted on 12/04/2003 8:27:54 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Nevertheless, Columbus did know about the trade winds and he was able to return to the same island he went to first (even though he didn't know what it was, he did know how to get ther.)

Of course, the Vast Round Earth Conspiracy has hid the fact that the San José fell of the edge of the world while the other three ships tacked violently.
80 posted on 12/04/2003 8:33:48 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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