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Posted on 12/03/2003 7:20:43 PM PST by Happy2BMe

Justices grill man who wants Foster photos

Lawyer believes Clinton White House aide was murdered

From Bill Mears
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) --Supreme Court justices sharply grilled a lawyer Wednesday who wants access to 10 police photos taken when the body of Clinton White House lawyer Vince Foster was discovered in 1993.

Several government investigations concluded Foster killed himself, but conspiracy theories persist that he was murdered as a part of a government conspiracy.

In a case with legal, political and personal implications, the court will decide whether the public's right to access graphic evidence related to a closed government investigation outweighs a family's right to privacy.

The Justice Department is fighting a lower-court order to release four of the photos under the Freedom of Information Act.

The law allows the media and individuals to receive unclassified records the government would not normally release. Its "personal privacy" exemption does not specifically cover surviving family members.

"I can think of no higher public interest than what's being argued here," attorney Allan Favish, who wants access to the photos, told the justices. "I think the government can no longer be trusted to filter the raw evidence to the public in this case."

Favish said the government made numerous mistakes in its handling of Foster's death, and he believes the withheld photos will help prove his conspiracy theory.

Several justices challenged Favish questioning why his request trumps the Foster family's desire for privacy.

"There is a long-standing tradition of respect for the dead, for the survivors," said Justice Stephen Breyer. "It is something so deep in human nature."

Justice David Souter said there is a fundamental "right to be left alone." He indicated the Foster family's interest falls under the concept of privacy, and that they should not have to be "assaulted by having these photographs published."

Responsible, not maximum disclosure

Favish said it is up to Congress, not the courts, to give surviving family members specific privacy rights.

The Bush administration supports the Foster family. Government lawyer Patricia Millett told the court the photos represent "highly sensitive, highly personal information, with limited investigative use."

Millett argued FOIA and other public records laws require "not maximum disclosure, but responsible disclosure."

She said Favish had not demonstrated "clear evidence" of misconduct in the Foster investigation that would show a "compelling public interest" for releasing the photos.

Doing so would not "directly advance the public knowledge of the government's activities and operations," she said.

Attorney James Hamilton, representing Foster's widow and sister, said releasing the photos would be "an unconscionable invasion of the family's privacy."

"It's been 10 years. It's time to give this family some peace," he said.

Clinton connections

Foster was a longtime friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton and had served barely six months as the president's deputy White House counsel when he was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head in a Washington area park in July 1993.

An extensive investigation by independent counsel Kenneth Starr's office concluded Foster, 48, shot himself because he was suffering from depression and had felt frustrated by the pressures of his job.

Several other investigations concluded the same thing, as did Foster's widow, Lisa.

But some people still believe Foster, a former law partner of Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, was killed in a White House cover-up.

He had been handling several private legal matters for the Clintons at the time of his suicide. A file on the Clintons' controversial Whitewater real estate investment was later found in Foster's White House office.

A lower court ordered the release of a handful of photographs of the area where Foster died, but the order is on hold pending the outcome of the Supreme Court appeal. The court deemed the other pictures too graphic for release.

Earnhardt support

Favish, of Santa Clarita, California, claims 10 of the unreleased photos could offer clues about Foster's death, and contends the pictures are not gruesome since they do not show Foster's face or wounds.

His legal claim is supported by a number of media ethics organizations, who worry the government may use privacy concerns to block public access to a wealth of relevant declassified information.

Favish once worked for the conservative Judicial Watch, which filed a number of lawsuits against the Clinton administration. He denies a political motive.

The federal government wants the court to offer legal clarification on exactly when the press and private individuals can make use of the Freedom of Information Act.

Among those filing a brief supporting the government is the widow of race car legend Dale Earnhardt.

Teresa Earnhardt has been fighting attempts by some media organizations to allow public release of autopsy photos taken after the racer's horrific death at the Daytona 500 in February 2001.

The Supreme Court has never dealt with the issue of whether surviving family members can exercise privacy rights in such cases. (More background)

But other federal courts blocked release of files on Martin Luther King Jr.'s private life, and of audiotapes of the space shuttle Challenger crew moments before it exploded in 1986.

Lower courts have split on the Favish case. A ruling is expected by June.

The case is Office of Independent Counsel v. Favish (02-0954).


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: billclinton; favish; hillaryclinton; oligarchy; scandal; vincefoster; vincentfoster
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Bark up a tree long enough and eventually the skunk will jump out.
1 posted on 12/03/2003 7:20:44 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
bttt
2 posted on 12/03/2003 7:23:49 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Happy2BMe
The Justice Department is fighting a lower-court order to release four of the photos under the Freedom of Information Act.

AG Ashcroft continues to obstruct....

3 posted on 12/03/2003 7:27:46 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Is that what they call grit in Fort Smith? We call it something else in Yell County." Mattie Ross)
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To: Happy2BMe
Unlike the Earnhart case, there are allegations of government coverups and murder here. Releasing such evidence seems to be an obvious way to demonstrate there is nothing to such claims.

The only reasons, honestly, to keep such files under rap would be governmental hubris or a real cover up. While no one who knows anything about the courts can deny they are perhaps the most arrogant and self important officials in out government, denying allowing this evidence into the public square will only further the view that there is something to the cover up angle.
4 posted on 12/03/2003 7:28:03 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: Alamo-Girl
PING
5 posted on 12/03/2003 7:28:39 PM PST by Freemeorkillme
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To: farmfriend
The difference betwen the Dale Earnhardt case and Vince Foster's is that Foster was a government employee. We paid for him. His family has no privacy rights, at least not ones that supercede the public's right to information.
6 posted on 12/03/2003 7:28:40 PM PST by henderson field
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To: JohnHuang2
Ping
7 posted on 12/03/2003 7:29:20 PM PST by Freemeorkillme
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To: Happy2BMe
Sometimes I think those 9 old idiots need to be put in the dock of public opinion.
8 posted on 12/03/2003 7:31:16 PM PST by cynicom
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To: swilhelm73
"While no one who knows anything about the courts can deny they are perhaps the most arrogant and self important officials in out government, denying allowing this evidence into the public square will only further the view that there is something to the cover up angle."

"The question is or at least ought to be, how can such a small, godless, minority have such influence over our courts and legislative processes?"

Answer:

U.S. Supreme Court, 2003 - The Oligarchy*

(All Your Sovereignty Are Belong To Us!)

Justices of the Supreme Court

Back Row (left to right): Ginsburg, Souter, Thomas, Breyer
Front Row (left to right): Scalia, Stevens, Rehnquist, O'Connor, Kennedy

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Pronunciation: 'ä-l&-"gär-kE, 'O-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -chies
Date: 1542
1 : government by the few
2 : a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control
3 : an organization under oligarchic control

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Variant(s): also sov•ran•ty /-tE/
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English soverainte, from Middle French soveraineté, from Old French, from soverain
Date: 14th century
1 obsolete : supreme excellence or an example of it
2 a : supreme power especially over a body politic b : freedom from external control : AUTONOMY c : controlling influence
3 : one that is SOVEREIGN; especially : an autonomous state


9 posted on 12/03/2003 7:32:50 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: AJFavish
If the government's only argument against releasing the photos is that their *publication* would be harmful, then at the very least the photos should be released for investigative and court/legal use, with actual publication of them barred (say, replaced with sketched diagrams made from the photos).

And that's at the very least.

10 posted on 12/03/2003 7:34:06 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Happy2BMe
"It's been 10 years. It's time to give this family some peace," he said."

Didn't Lisa Foster marry rather soon after Vincent's death? Sounds like she found her p(ie)eace.
11 posted on 12/03/2003 7:37:46 PM PST by tinacart ((I still hate hitlery!!!))
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To: RJCogburn
"AG Ashcroft continues to obstruct...."

I noticed that - interesting, isn't it?

Speaking of obstruction, isn't is unusual for

CNN to so much as suggest unbecoming behavior that would even remotely reflect negatively on HRC?


12 posted on 12/03/2003 7:39:37 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Happy2BMe
It already appears that the Supremes will rule against him.

The Clinton's are still above the law for some reason.
13 posted on 12/03/2003 7:41:25 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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To: Freemeorkillme
www.alamo-girl.com

Look for info on Vince Foster. That's all I'm going to give you for reference. You'll find it..all..and all on your own, thanks to the Hench-A.
14 posted on 12/03/2003 7:42:05 PM PST by Freemeorkillme
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To: Freemeorkillme
Bump!
15 posted on 12/03/2003 7:46:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ladyinred; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; MeeknMing; PhilDragoo; donna; potlatch; GeronL; nopardons






16 posted on 12/03/2003 7:49:02 PM PST by autoresponder (<html> <center> <img src="http://0access.web1000.com/HS_Hillary.jpg"> </center> </html> HILLARY!)
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To: AJFavish; aristeides; leadpenny; honway; thinden
"I think the government can no longer be trusted to filter the raw evidence to the public in this case."

I hope you win your case, Allan, even if the Bush administration wants to continue the coverup.

17 posted on 12/03/2003 7:50:17 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: tinacart
"Didn't Lisa Foster marry rather soon after Vincent's death?"

Yep. Wonder if she is on speaking terms with the woman who got her man?

HILLARY CLINTONS XMAS WISH FOR FREEPERS

SHE'S ALL CLASS - UNFORTUNATLY - IT'S ALL LOW!


18 posted on 12/03/2003 7:52:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: henderson field
Foster was a government employee. We paid for him. His family has no privacy rights...

Does that mean we can stick a camera in his bathroom? Or a microphone in his car? He has no privacy rights within the scope of his employment, or is at least limited to the privacy granted by his employer. But the fact that he's a government employee does not open up his entire life to the public.

There may be other ways to get the photos, but this is not a legitimate way to distinguish his case.
19 posted on 12/03/2003 7:56:34 PM PST by July 4th
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To: July 4th
Does that mean we can stick a camera in his bathroom?

Only after he is terminated 'with extreme predjudice'. And it's not his bathroom, and it's not pictures that are disgusting. It's just pictures that show that the story extant doesn't match the photographic evidence. Or so the claim goes. I would find for the plaintiff. While ensuring respect for the remains of the deceased.

/john

20 posted on 12/03/2003 8:07:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (I'm just a cook.)
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