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FReeper Allan Favish on FOX Big Story/John Gibson at 5:00pm re: SCOTUS argument Vince Foster Photos
Alan Favish ^ | Dec 3, 2003 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/03/2003 1:58:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: freedom4ever
OOPS! Should be "FOIA should take precedence over families..." in so many words.
21 posted on 12/03/2003 2:33:53 PM PST by freedom4ever
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To: martin_fierro
I just saw him!!!
I didn't know he was a FReeper until I got here.
Good Job!!!
22 posted on 12/03/2003 2:34:21 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happy Recovering Economy Month-Go Shopping!)
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To: freedom4ever
Darn, I missed it. Did he say anything about being before the Supremes today? I'm guessing it was an hour's worth of arguments.
23 posted on 12/03/2003 2:36:23 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I didn't catch it he did, but he was in front of the building, I think. Check out the picture above.
24 posted on 12/03/2003 2:38:42 PM PST by freedom4ever
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To: GOPJ
I take it you mean the Columbia thread? Thanks for your comments but it really was the folks who posted after the accident that made it such a memorable thread. You're right about FR. IMO, if it ain't on FR, it just ain't.
25 posted on 12/03/2003 2:40:24 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: freedom4ever
I see. Same tie in both settings. The first one must be from earlier in the day after the arguments.
26 posted on 12/03/2003 2:42:52 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Jim Robinson; AJFavish
AP Couldn't resist the 'Clinton Antagonist' smear today:

Supreme Court Hears Foster Photo Case

By GINA HOLLAND .c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - A troubled Supreme Court considered Wednesday whether government photographs of dead bodies should be kept private, in an emotional revival of a 10-year-old debate over the death of a White House lawyer.

Multiple investigations determined that a depressed Vincent Foster shot himself in the head, but California attorney Allan Favish and some others say he may have been murdered as part of a cover-up by the Clinton administration.

Favish's pursuit of 10 death scene pictures, opposed by the government and Foster's family, has raised a question for the justices: Can the government keep some records from the public to protect the privacy of survivors?

Bush administration attorney Patricia Millett said government files are packed with sensitive information - autopsy photographs of U.S. soldiers killed overseas and pictures of unidentified remains from the Sept. 11 attacks, for example. Releasing them would be irresponsible, she said, unless someone has clear proof of government wrongdoing.

Favish, known as a Clinton antagonist, told the court that the Freedom of Information Act does not give any special privacy rights to relatives.

He is backed by media groups, which say the government is trying to get a ruling that would keep too much information off-limits and hurt journalists trying to uncover wrongdoing and abuse in federal agencies.

Federal law, which allows reporters and others to get some unclassified records, says that officials may withhold information that could cause ``an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.''

James Hamilton, a lawyer representing Foster's survivors, said that they kept his casket closed at the funeral and ``to open it now would be an unconscionable invasion of privacy.''

``It's been 10 years. It's time to give this family some peace,'' Hamilton said, as Foster's widow, Lisa, and other relatives watched in the courtroom.

Foster, 48, was found dead of a gunshot to the head in a park in Virginia in 1993. The longtime friend of Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton was handling several personal legal matters for them at the time.

The Bush administration maintains that thousands of pages of reports about the Foster death and more than 100 photographs have already been released, and five government investigations concluded that the death was a suicide.

``You're just demonstrating some foot faults in each of these investigations,'' Justice Antonin Scalia told Favish. ``Who cares?''

But Favish said it was clear that officials made mistakes in declaring the death a suicide. ``I think the government can no longer be trusted to filter the raw evidence to the public in this case,'' he said.

While Scalia seemed at times sympathetic to Favish, there was skepticism from many of the other justices.

``There is a tradition going back thousands of years ... respect for the dead, respect for survivors,'' Justice Stephen Breyer said.

David H. Souter, the most private of the nine justices, said families would be pursued by reporters for interviews and their homes would be photographed if records were released.

In an unusual exchange, Scalia said that conspiracy theorists could argue that the five investigations showed proof of a widespread Washington cover-up. One probe was conducted by independent prosecutor Kenneth Starr, a conservative attorney and adversary of the Clintons.

``It is a difficult argument to make that Judge Starr conspired with members of the Clinton administration'' in the death, Hamilton told Scalia.

``Mr. Starr might have been protecting (Former House Speaker) Newt Gingrich,'' Scalia replied, drawing laughter from the courtroom. ``We really don't know.''

The case is Office of Independent Counsel v. Favish, 02-954.

On the Net:

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Allan Favish site

27 posted on 12/03/2003 2:55:27 PM PST by IncPen ( I hope the Democrats keep listening to the Clintons. So far, it's been great for us.)
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter
FYI... Favish is a longtime FReeper...
28 posted on 12/03/2003 2:56:50 PM PST by IncPen ( I hope the Democrats keep listening to the Clintons. So far, it's been great for us.)
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To: IncPen
AP Couldn't resist the 'Clinton Antagonist' smear today:

Hehe. Not to agree with the AP, but I think it's safe to call Allan a "Clinton Antagonist". I think HE would agree.

29 posted on 12/03/2003 3:04:39 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: IncPen
Favish was a Freeper before there were Freepers. He's been on this case since at least 1995--at least that's when I first saw his posts on newsgroups. That's a large chunk of one's life to dedicate to an impersonal cause like this. I salute his courage and dogged determination.
30 posted on 12/03/2003 3:05:18 PM PST by giotto
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm crossing my fingers and praying.
31 posted on 12/03/2003 3:21:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AAABEST
Hehe. Not to agree with the AP, but I think it's safe to call Allan a "Clinton Antagonist". I think HE would agree.

True enough. My only gripe is that the AP doesn't see fit to label liberals when writing a story about them.

As my dad used to say, "They don't think it's bias because they agree with it..."

That said, I'm sure Favish predates me, but I only go back as far as the 'Whitewater Page' days....

: )

32 posted on 12/03/2003 3:49:32 PM PST by IncPen ( Let's all register as Democrats this Spring and write in H!llary!)
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To: giotto
Oops. Part of post #32 was meant for you!

; )
33 posted on 12/03/2003 3:50:36 PM PST by IncPen ( Let's all register as Democrats this Spring and write in H!llary!)
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To: IncPen
That said, I'm sure Favish predates me, but I only go back as far as the 'Whitewater Page' days....

Not a problem, you newies are just out of it sometimes.

34 posted on 12/03/2003 3:53:56 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: IncPen
``There is a tradition going back thousands of years ... respect for the dead, respect for survivors,'' Justice Stephen Breyer said.

There is an even longer tradition at stake here.

Justice for the dead and the survivors!

Too bad FOX isn't giving this story 1/20th the time it wastes on Lacy, Kobe and Dru. It would be solved quickly!

35 posted on 12/03/2003 3:54:17 PM PST by Gritty (Hillary is innocent. Just ask her. It's for sure we can't ask Vince!)
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To: giotto
Well Spoken...
36 posted on 12/03/2003 9:54:42 PM PST by martoni
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To: Gritty
There is an even longer tradition at stake here. Justice for the dead and the survivors!

Not to mention the FOIA, which is the LAW. Feelings don't trump the law in the real world, but they seem to in the socialist utopia we have now.

37 posted on 12/03/2003 10:00:33 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I sincerely hope the Court agrees with Allan, but I'll be surprised if they do. On the outside chance that they do, I'll bet the pictures go "missing" and are never released. Good luck, Allan. I am wishing you the best. You've done a herculean job.
38 posted on 12/04/2003 3:17:27 AM PST by Humal
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