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German Cannibal confesses all
Reuters ^
| 3 December, 2003
| David Crossland
Posted on 12/03/2003 9:34:00 AM PST by yonif
KASSEL, Germany (Reuters) - A German man has confessed in court to killing and eating a willing victim, saying it had felt like a religious act to eat human flesh.
Offering a full account of the killing that has gained him worldwide notoriety as "The Cannibal of Rotenburg", Armin Meiwes said there were "hundreds, thousands" of people seeking to fulfil their desires to eat humans or be eaten via Internet adverts in forums called "Cannibal Cafe," "Guy Cannibals" and "Torturenet".
The trial of Meiwes, 42, started on Wednesday in the central German city of Kassel, in a case that has shocked Germany, exposed the dark side of the Internet and could make legal history.
Giving testimony so frank it drew gasps from the public gallery, Meiwes said he had buried the innards of the corpse and kept the skull and plastic bags of flesh in his freezer. He ate about 20 kg (44 pounds) of the flesh, defrosting it bit by bit.
"With every piece of flesh I ate I remembered him," Meiwes, self-assured and well-spoken, told the judge. "It was like taking communion."
Meiwes said his upbringing alone with a dominant mother had stoked his interest in cannibalism, making him long for a little brother he could make part of himself.
The gaunt, bespectacled computer repair man told of how he made contact online with the 43-year-old Berlin computer specialist identified only as Bernd-Juergen B..
He invited him to his elegant half-timbered home in Rotenburg near Kassel and killed him with a kitchen knife in a "slaughtering room" he had built containing meat hooks, a cage and a butcher's table.
"He told me he had had the desire since he was a child to be slaughtered and eaten," Meiwes said. "He was very intelligent and I didn't see any sign that he was disturbed." Meiwes filmed the killing and the video tape may be shown to the court.
The film shows Meiwes -- who has been described by his lawyer as a "gentleman of the old school" -- cutting off the victim's penis at the latter's request.
"It was important to him that his member be cut off and that he witness it," said Meiwes. "It gave him pleasure."
Ten hours after the dismemberment, the victim fell unconscious and Meiwes killed him with a knife. He then hung up the corpse and cut it up, filming the process.
"SOMEONE TO BE PART OF ME"
Prosecutors have charged Meiwes with murder after a psychiatrist declared him fit to stand trial. They are seeking a life sentence.
They acknowledge that the victim wanted to be killed but they believe he was incapable of rational thought.
Meiwes's lawyer has pleaded for him to be convicted of "killing on request", a form of illegal euthanasia which carries a far lower sentence of up to five years.
The problem, legal experts say, is that the charge of full murder is unlikely to stick given that the video film shows the victim to be willing. The case may go as far as the Federal Constitutional Court, Professor Arthur Kreuzer of the Institute for Criminology at Giessen University said this week.
Meiwes said he became obsessed with wanting a younger brother -- "someone to be part of me".
Using the pseudonym "Franky", he posted Internet ads which read: "If you are 18-25 you are my boy, Franky from Germany," or "Come to me I'll eat your delicious flesh."
Some 430 people responded to his e-mails within a year. He met five men face to face who didn't want to go as far as being slaughtered but who were ready to engage in role-playing games, he said.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannibal; cannibalism; favabeans; fineyoungcannibals; hedrivesmissdaisy; murder; shedrivesmecrazy
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posted on
12/03/2003 9:34:00 AM PST
by
yonif
To: yonif
They should execute him.
To: yonif
Okay, ew.
3
posted on
12/03/2003 9:39:41 AM PST
by
kimmie7
(PUSH = Pray Until Something Happens!)
To: af_vet_1981
They should execute him.Fry him or microwave him?
;^)
4
posted on
12/03/2003 9:41:43 AM PST
by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
I eat cannibal
Feed on animal
Your love is so edible to me
I eat cannibals
I eat cannibal
It's incredible
You bring out the animal in me
I eat cannibals
What can you do
You're in a stew
Hot hot cook it up
I'm never gonna stop
Fancy a bite
My appetite
Yum yum gee it's fun
Banging on a different drum
And I eat cannibal
Feed on animal
Your love is so edible to me
I eat cannibals
I eat cannibal
It's incredible
You bring out the animal in me
I eat cannibals
I like the spice
Tasty and nice
Roastin vitamin
Forget the dietin'
Mmm such a dish
I can't resist
Healthy recipe
What you got is good for me
And I eat cannibal
Feed on animal
Your love is so edible to me
I eat cannibals
I eat cannibal
It's incredible
You bring out the animal in me
I eat cannibals
All I wanna do
Make a meal of you
We are what we eat
You're my kind of meat
Got a hunger for your love
(Hot pot cook it up, I'm never gonna stop)
It's all I'm thinkin' of
(Yum yum gee it's fun, I'm banging on a drum)
Give the world a bone
(Roastin vitamin, forget the dietin')
I got steak at home
(I eat cannibals)
I eat cannibal
Feed on animal
Your love is so edible to me
I eat cannibals
I eat cannibal
It's incredible
You bring out the animal in me
I eat cannibals
Roastin', toastin', you're the one I'm boastin'
Eat me, eat you, incredibly delicious too
Gourmet, flambe, serve you up an entree
Intake, home bake, you're the icing on the cake
Eat me, eat you, incredibly delicious too
Gourmet, flambe, serve you up an entree
Intake, home bake, you're the icing on the cake
Full up, can't stop, dicing on a chop chop
5
posted on
12/03/2003 9:44:15 AM PST
by
Diddle E. Squat
(www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
To: yonif
It's Germany. He'll probably have to write on a chalk board 1000 times, I will not kill and eat my friends. Leaving out the obvious loophole of killing and eating his enemies which we'll be discussing next year.
6
posted on
12/03/2003 9:44:33 AM PST
by
biblewonk
(I must answer all bible questions.)
To: randog
Put him to sleep with drugs like they would a very sick animal.
To: yonif
In my mind . . .
A man who would ask another person to kill and eat him is insane.
A man who would kill and cannibalize another person is insane.
But for society to allow this kind of insanity to continue to pollute society, is most insane.
8
posted on
12/03/2003 9:50:31 AM PST
by
Veritas_est
(Truth is)
To: yonif
"He told me he had had the desire since he was a child to be slaughtered and eaten," Meiwes said. "He was very intelligent and I didn't see any sign that he was disturbed." Whoa...OK...(backing slowly away)...the feller says he wants his willie whacked and then to end up in serving-sized portions next to the popsicles in the freezer...nothing abnormal there, nosiree...
To: yonif
This guy should be thrown into a pit with wild boars like in the movie "Hannibal" and let them eat him. The best punishment that could be meted out.
To: yonif
The film shows Meiwes -- who has been described by his lawyer as a "gentleman of the old school" Yes, he would have enjoyed being around the "schoolyards" of Buchenwald and Oswiecim...
11
posted on
12/03/2003 9:57:53 AM PST
by
mikrofon
To: Captain Peter Blood
I kinda wandered over to the DU board and they had a poll on wether you think what two consensual cannibals do together is ok or not. A majority said it was wrong, but a surprisingly high number (35-40%) said it was acceptable behavior. That's scary.
12
posted on
12/03/2003 10:14:21 AM PST
by
mlbford2
To: yonif
What exactly does everyone want him punished for?
For eating something you find disgusting?
In that case, I'd like everyone who eats fish to be drowned.
For killing another?
The 'victim' wished to die at the hands of another. Why shouldn't his request be granted?
He may have endangered public health by improperly disposing of a corpse, but that is a trivial offense, hardly grounds for outrage.
So9
13
posted on
12/03/2003 10:24:53 AM PST
by
Servant of the 9
(Think of it as Evolution In Action)
To: Captain Peter Blood
Just to go tangential here, don't you think movies like the "Hannibal" ones, that present murder for entertainment, can spur these freaks into action, and blur the morality of others like the DU folks, so that they think cannibalism is ok as long as it's between consenting adults?
Mrs VS
To: yonif
The victim got what he wanted. The cannibal got what he wanted. Both were consenting adults. No one else was involved. The cannibal did not kill those who responded to his ad but did not wish to actually be killed.A doctor examined him and found him sane.
Other than personal feelings of revulsion, I would like to hear why this should be considered murder
15
posted on
12/03/2003 10:28:00 AM PST
by
WackyKat
To: WackyKat
Under German Law, manslaughter is considered to be a murder if committed with the purpose to enable or hide another crime. In this case, the "other crime" is abuse of a corpse (by eating it). Another point is, that the cannibal did it to satisfy his sex urge, another reason for calling it a murder. He should and probably will live the next 15 years in prison.
To: Servant of the 9
Even though the victim wanted his own death, at the moment when the offender stabbed into the victims throat, the victim slept and before that, he was unconscious and/or mentally ill.
It´s murder. If I was wrong, and it´s not murder, the guy needs to be found guilty of "killing on demand" (up to 5 years prison). But I doubt that the victim seriously and conscious ordered his death.
To: yonif
I'll give the Mass. courts about one year before they declare this a "consenting adults" matter and allow it.
18
posted on
12/03/2003 11:05:29 AM PST
by
Oatka
To: yonif
19
posted on
12/03/2003 11:08:07 AM PST
by
Consort
To: yonif
This adds a whole new dimension to the phrase "bite me."
20
posted on
12/03/2003 11:11:04 AM PST
by
Bernard Marx
(I have noted that persons with bad judgment are most insistent that we do what they think best.)
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