1-shot killer

Army Times ^ | November 24, 2003 | John G. Roos

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Ben Thomas and three colleagues were driving north out of Baghdad in an SUV on a clear mid-September morning, headed down a dirt road into a rural village, when gunmen in several surrounding buildings opened fire on them.

In a brief but intense firefight, Thomas hit one of the attackers with a single shot from his M4 carbine at a distance he estimates was 100 to 110 yards.

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the mistake here is that we really do NOT want to kill them. We want to wound them badly so we can take him and one or two of his buds off the battlefield to care for him. So essentially - one 5.56 = 2 or three off the field - get it?

If we kill him that's one... again the goal is to badly wound not kill.

Sometimes. That's essentially the idea behind using a very high velocity but small/light projectile- at a respectable distance, it'll wound to achieve the effect you describe. But should the target choose to engage the shooter from a much closer distance, a hit while the bullet is travelling very fast and at very high rotational speeds will end the dispute quickly.

The alternative view, unfortunately not as convenient for small arms usage as might be desired; XM1028 120mm for M1A1 Abrams smoothbore main gun:

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The black talons were only gruesome in appearance.

Indeed, and the 127 grain +P+ Ranger SXT bullet, product number RA9SXTP, I've lately been using in 9mm [a gift, from a pal who's gone over to 9x23/.38 Super!] in my old Browning actually seem to both feed a little better and expand more consistantly. But in .45, the Remington *Golden Saber* JHPs certainly look fearsome once their petals have bloomed.

Not surprising. Same designer.

I couldn't find a pic of expanded .45s, but the .40 S&W fired slugs are pretty close.

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from encarta

wog [ wog ]

noun

. ... .

now, my glib friend, having read those definitions, do you really think you are serving freepers, or conservatisim any justice by using racially inflammatory language for some liberal cretin to quote and then say we're all a bunch of racists? think about it.

The liberal cretins are going to defame and slander us in any event. Accordingly, I don't care what the silly munts think.

Lewis Carroll:

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

-- Through the Looking Glass.

[Leisler]

The Search for the Perfect Bullet, could make a good short non-fiction book, along the lines of "Cod" and "Salt".

Anyways, if we ever get attacked by something goopy/jelly like "Thing" from a old sci fi movie with a young Steve McQueen, well, we will be all set.

[Leisler]

I don't really care. I'll call sweethart if it will take a bullet.

Encarta is a PC dictionary.

It's been decades since I've let liberals decide the construct of language, or any other symbol. I make them play on my court, my game.

Lastly, most liberals don't "think". They feel.

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The Search for the Perfect Bullet, could make a good short non-fiction book, along the lines of "Cod" and "Salt".

Anyways, if we ever get attacked by something goopy/jelly like "Thing" from a old sci fi movie with a young Steve McQueen, well, we will be all set.

Some people sit around and brag on their guns, and discuss various ammo loads. But there are others who are just as happy with their Ohaus scales, AA machines and comparison mikes. They'd no more be caught with their Mityuoto digital calipers than I would without two spare mags for my M1911 or a single one for my Browning GP. I knew one of those who was SO happy when he finally got a freezer big enough to chill his gelatin molds just right, and even bought himself the right model of BB gun so he could *calibrate* his Jell-o [Yeah, I've cast and shot my own gelatin too, though I don't have a freezer. I used one of the file cabinets at the morgue.] He made the mistake of inviting me over to shoot some of his jello blocks, so I took a couple of goodies: A Remington XP-100 in .221 Fireball, my Mauser broomhandle, and a muzzleloading revolver...in this case, a LeMat Navy.

I made an awful mess of his range. But he was as happy as a pig in politics.

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[Tijeras_Slim]

The take I heard was that in Egypt during WWI the commander of British troops was taken aback by the disparaging language used towards the local troops and suggested that they be referred to as "Worthy Oriental Gentlemen". Like all good soldiers the Brits reduced it to the acronym, as brevity is the soul of wit.

Denim covered gelatin.... there's a "Clinton goes into a biker bar..." joke there.

[Tijeras_Slim]

He hit the man in the buttocks

Check out the Texas Brain Shot thread.

[Squantos]

Eaker told me his old girlfriend was a fine example of Denim covered Gelatin.............:o)

Stay Safe !

[IGOTMINE]

The claims for this ammunition were debunked at www.tacticalforums.com in their ballistics effects forum.

You can also read about the 6.8mm round the military intends to adopt in the near future over there.

[Tijeras_Slim]

The web filter at work has deleted your graphic, but I think I know what it was.... :)

[IGOTMINE]

Man! That is HEINOUS!

[Tijeras_Slim]

Blame Squantos!

[Squantos]

http://www.homestead.com/deidrababe/tightjeans.html

Heres a link to a scientific test of the push the press to test on denim and gelatin pics I borrowed.

Stay Safe !

[glock rocks]

OMG! I now wish I had a graphics filter.

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The take I heard was that in Egypt during WWI the commander of British troops was taken aback by the disparaging language used towards the local troops and suggested that they be referred to as "Worthy Oriental Gentlemen". Like all good soldiers the Brits reduced it to the acronym, as brevity is the soul of wit.

Just so. I've also heard *Wily Oriental Gents* used as the three words so abbreviated, particularly in reference to past experiences in India or [now] Pakistani territory under British control. I've probably heard it from Nepalese Gurkhas as much as from anyone, who might be expected to take offense upon hearing themselves so referred if they thought it perjorative; but I can't recall such an example in my experience. Bored Gurkhas looking for an excuse for a little dust-up might pretend offense, I suppose, but that hardly seems worth a broad-spectrum condemnation.

Too, I can imagine the domestic use might be harsher in industrial towns of the British Isles facing wholesale Paki immigration as opposed to out in the field with the troops. Of course those who routinely ply their trade with automatic weaponry are often more curiously formal and polite than their less-capable fellows. Heinlein was right: an armed society really is a more polite one.

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[Eaker]

I just gave Deidra yer address!!!!