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Aide to Saddam's number two detained(Update II)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | Dec 3 2003

Posted on 12/02/2003 2:19:00 PM PST by Dog

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To: eureka!
Plus, a lot of these Iraqis are helping us out of sheer hatred and disgust for Saddam and what his Baathist party did to them the last 30 years. I think their gooses are cooked now that we've got lots of Iraqis helping us.
61 posted on 12/02/2003 3:21:20 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Jim Noble
No, that's subjugation. Check this out (from dictionary.com):
Usage: To Conquer, Vanquish, Subdue, Subjugate, Overcome. These words agree in the general idea expressed by overcome, -- that of bringing under one's power by the exertion of force. Conquer is wider and more general than vanquish, denoting usually a succession of conflicts. Vanquish is more individual, and refers usually to a single conflict. Thus, Alexander conquered Asia in a succession of battles, and vanquished Darius in one decisive engagement. Subdue implies a more gradual and continual pressure, but a surer and more final subjection. We speak of a nation as subdued when its spirit is at last broken, so that no further resistance is offered. Subjugate is to bring completely under the yoke of bondage. The ancient Gauls were never finally subdued by the Romans until they were completely subjugated. These words, when used figuratively, have correspondent meanings. We conquer our prejudices or aversions by a succesion of conflicts; but we sometimes vanquish our reluctance to duty by one decided effort: we endeavor to subdue our evil propensities by watchful and persevering exertions. Subjugate is more commonly taken in its primary meaning, and when used figuratively has generally a bad sense; as, his reason was completely subjugated to the sway of his passions.

62 posted on 12/02/2003 3:26:08 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Yep. That's exactly what I meant at #39, above. Things will only get better for the people and our troops...
63 posted on 12/02/2003 3:26:25 PM PST by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: diamondjoe
When was LaHood saying this about our being close to catching Saddam? Today or six months ago?
64 posted on 12/02/2003 3:28:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: diamondjoe
U.S. Rep. Ray LaHood held his thumb and forefinger slightly apart and said, "We're this close" to catching Saddam Hussein.

If that's true, Rep. LaHood should drink a nice, big cup of STFU...although it might be that this is disinformat being spread by the Administration.

65 posted on 12/02/2003 3:29:46 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Steve_Seattle
Look at post 32....
66 posted on 12/02/2003 3:32:17 PM PST by Dog (George W. Bush - - - -" Avenger of the Bones..")
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To: mystery-ak
OMG...I better start using that spell checker thingy...helicopter.
67 posted on 12/02/2003 3:32:52 PM PST by mystery-ak (GodSpeed, Mike.)
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To: Indie
"This just in to Freepcentral News Service: During the transport of what witnesses allege to be Sadamm (the military has no comment), the helicopter in which he was being transported to a US military facility crashed in a remote desert section of Iraq, killing the detainee. All crewman parachuted to saftety."

Is this a rumor, a joke, a wish, a prophecy, or a fact? Pardon my stupidity.
68 posted on 12/02/2003 3:33:03 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Dog
This sounds like it could be a real turning point in the war for Iraq.

At risk of coming across too optimistic, i think the attacks on our troops could drop alot soon. If these people were financing,instigating and participating in those recent attacks as it appears.

Excellent Article.

69 posted on 12/02/2003 3:33:19 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Steve_Seattle
He said that yesterday (Monday).
70 posted on 12/02/2003 3:35:09 PM PST by diamondjoe
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To: No Blue States
"At risk of coming across too optimistic, i think the attacks on our troops could drop alot soon."

I hope you're right, but I thought the same thing a couple of months ago. At one point, there was a stretch of 8 days without an American combat casualty. Then things deteriorated . . . I think we really need to catch Saddam himself to turn this around dramatically.
71 posted on 12/02/2003 3:37:50 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Ahem, I say, it's a joke son.

Anyway this is the part I like.

"They had lists of suspects with photographs attached and they were accompanied by Iraqis,"

E's makin a list, E's checking it twice,
E already knows who's naughty or nice.

E sees you when your creeping.
E sees when you explode.
E knows when you've come to down the troops
or serve them turkey like you should.
72 posted on 12/02/2003 3:43:05 PM PST by tet68
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To: Dog; MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; ...
Could be....

US troops detained the private secretary of Saddam Hussein's fugitive number two, Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, during a massive sweep in the Iraqi town of Hawijah today, police chief Awad al-Obeidi told AFP.

"Saad Mohammed al-Duri was arrested in a house in the Hawijah area, where he was hiding," Obeidi said in Iraq's northern oil capital by telephone.

Kirkuk's police chief, General Turhan Yusef, said $US40,000 ($55,134) was found in the man's possession, which was "suspected of being used to finance attacks on the US-led coalition".

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Stay tuned...

One thing's sure, the bad guys are losing again today. (^:

73 posted on 12/02/2003 3:48:28 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ( "Our military is full of the finest people on the face of the earth." ~ Pres. Bush, Baghdad)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Is this the same officer who misled the not-too-careful press this morning?

I don't know the answer to that. Due to the names involved, this one looks a little more credible.

74 posted on 12/02/2003 3:52:05 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: P-Marlowe
Hopefully the yellow bags containing the heads were several yards from the rest of their bodies.

That was exactly the mental image I had.

75 posted on 12/02/2003 3:53:45 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: Dog
Dorothy Rabinowitz (Opinion Journal)does a number on Rogers's negative reporting on Bush's trip.Dog,I now understand the heavy rumor of Izzat's possible capture.He must be hearing footsteps.
76 posted on 12/02/2003 3:59:37 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Steve_Seattle
Thanks for the wise words to avoid knee jerk optimism,I have learned that hard lesson before too.

Ive come to accept the potential that Saddam may never be found, dead or alive.

If however we capture or kill most of his followers and supporters... Weve already taken down his army, statues, taken his face off his money, and made friends with the people he abused then its basically over for him and the tiny remnant of his murdering crew. And the Iraqis appear themselves seem to be cooperating more.

Maybe they will nab Saddam. They sound really close.

If so, Nothing would compare to the Beauty of Tom Dachles Saddness when he heard the news.

77 posted on 12/02/2003 4:04:02 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Steve_Seattle
Parachuted out of a helo is the tip off!
78 posted on 12/02/2003 4:07:10 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Dog
A member of The Pantagraph editorial board -- not really expecting an answer -- asked LaHood for more details, saying, "Do you know something we don't?"

"Yes I do," replied LaHood.

WOW indeed..........See ya'all tomorrow, I gotta got play some SOCOM II.

79 posted on 12/02/2003 4:08:50 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Dog
It will take our media a whole day to catch up to this ...Nah ... It'll take them several days to dribble out little pieces with each article including quotes about the war mongering Americans and how there's no security like the "good 'ol days'.

As you highlighted many bad guys were picked up today - not just an aide. Thanks for the post!

;-)

80 posted on 12/02/2003 4:21:08 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Support Our Troops!)
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