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“Field Guide” Bye-Bye: Abercrombie and Fitch stops selling porn.
National Review Online ^ | December 01, 2003 | Anne Morse

Posted on 12/01/2003 1:10:03 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/01/2003 1:10:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Thank you, Anne Morse, for this update.

Jeffries has been exceedingly arrogant and smug on this matter. I'd like to return to A & F as a customer, but haven't been able to for years. Time to compliment A & F for their better judgement and corporate responsibility.

2 posted on 12/01/2003 1:15:40 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway
I always cringe when I walk by the store. They always have some picture of some shirtless male model blown up over 12' tall on display. When I went by their store over the weekend, it seems they toned down there usual hyper-sexual image for the Christmas season.
3 posted on 12/01/2003 1:16:39 PM PST by Always Right
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To: nickcarraway
Great. If God meant us to be naked we would have been born... Oh. Never mind.
4 posted on 12/01/2003 1:22:38 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: nickcarraway
Dobson was joined in his efforts by former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs...

Ahem: ...and current team owner of 2 recent NASCAR champions.

Gibbs has built his reputation on toughness and unflinching public dedication to his morals, ethics, and religion. His position as a NASCAR powerbroker makes him not just another idealogue, but a major player in the world of advertising and corporate sponsorship and image.

5 posted on 12/01/2003 1:23:28 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: nickcarraway
Good for them.
But too late; I'll never shop there again.
6 posted on 12/01/2003 1:24:24 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: nickcarraway
The only people who will have access to the quarterly in future, she added, are those who already have a subscription.

Does this mean they won't sell more subscriptions, as well as not selling individual copies? As long as it's available at all, they're still a pornography retailer. And I noticed the store in the mall on Saturday. If the pictures were "toned down," I'd hate to see how they looked to start with!

7 posted on 12/01/2003 1:29:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (It's hard to see the rainbow through glasses dark as these.)
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To: nickcarraway
The 2003 Christmas issue features dozens of naked young men and women in various sexual poses, including group sex.

Yep. Usually two token girls surrounded by 12 guys, who didn't seem to be paying attention to the girls.

Ask any gay in New York about the "Abercrombie Boys" and you will see that they don't exactly make most of their money from modeling...

8 posted on 12/01/2003 1:32:56 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Time to compliment A & F for their better judgement and corporate responsibility.

I would respectfully disagree. I will not buy merchandise from A&F, and I suggest that a boycott continue. Here's why:

The corporate "culture" that thought it was a reasonable business practice to sell underage sex (or at least the appearance of underage sex) has not changed, the only difference between today and yesterday is that today, the A&F command structure understands that they cannot publish questionable material and call it a "Catalog". The same people who OKed this decision are still in charge and will be making decisions for A&F in the future. There has been no accountability for the depravity of A&F's marketing campaign. I believe that economic pressure should be placed upon A&F until the stockholders vote out the pedophiles who actually thought there would be a consequence-free environment for peddling smut. One can only imagine the corporate thought process -

"What's the worst that can happen? A couple thousand right-wing religious wackos get bent out of shape. If enough of them call, we'll just stop selling the thing, but in the meantime, Oh boy! The publicity!"

I have never believed it is a corporation's responsibility to be behave morally or ethically. But I will only support those companies whose leaders are demostrably moral or ethical; or, at the very worst, don't bank on pornography to sell either catalogs or that company's image.

Let's not stop kicking the wanna-be child pornographers now that they're down.

10 posted on 12/01/2003 1:34:50 PM PST by Monkey King
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To: nickcarraway
http://www.aberzombie.com

I'm going to buy shirts from the above site for my mother, and niece - two people who just LOVE abercrombie *gag*.

11 posted on 12/01/2003 1:36:59 PM PST by NotQuiteCricket
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I've never noticed this catalog.

I'll never pay for porn when you can get it for free.

12 posted on 12/01/2003 1:39:26 PM PST by george wythe
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"I have never believed it is a corporation's responsibility to be behave morally or ethically."

I respectfully disagree. Just as I expect corporate America to be responsible not to dump raw sewage in the local river, I expect them not to add dump on the culture either. Just as I expect coporations to follow GAAP, SEC rules, etc......

13 posted on 12/01/2003 1:40:57 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway; scripter; GrandMoM
Excellent news!
14 posted on 12/01/2003 1:49:59 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: anniegetyourgun
With all due respect, a corporation is an inanimate object. It is an artificial "person" created for the purpose of facilitating business transactions. Thus, a corporation can not be said to behave ethically or unethically.

Personally, I expect the directors, officers and employees of a corporation to behave in an ethical and moral manner. If they fail to do so, I will not do business with them and will encourage others to do the same.
15 posted on 12/01/2003 1:54:26 PM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: nickcarraway
A&F was the real Muttly Headquarters in his youth. He would admire the imported Browning Automatic pistols, swing a Sauer bolt-action rifle, debrief salesmen...one of whom gave him his very first, treasured Kynoch .470 Nitro Express cartridge...but rarely ventured on to the other floors...the clothing departments.

Once a fellow customer in the '70s produced a loaded shotshell from his pocket and did himself in...the beginning of the end was upon us. However, I had not known about the publications until now.

Muttly feel truly soiled now...and will go out and roll around in the nice clean dirt...until he feels better...and is purified.
16 posted on 12/01/2003 1:56:27 PM PST by PoorMuttly (DO, or DO NOT. There is no TRY - Yoda)
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But they do this every year and will do it again next year.
The raunchy catalog, the outcry, the promise to not sell it any longer. THE GREAT PUBLICITY.
17 posted on 12/01/2003 1:58:08 PM PST by catonsville
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To: anniegetyourgun
I understand your point. It's just that particular issue seems to mirrors many constitutional questions, for me at least.

A corporation is nothing more than a piece of paper, real assets, and its employees. It's the employees as individuals that I expect to behave ethically. Through that moral behaviour as a person comes a moral direction and behaviour for the company. A corporation, as a statutory entity, should be expected to behave legally, hence the need for, as you rightly suggest, anti-dumping statutes, the SEC, et al.

I say it mirrors some constitutional questions because of the tension the government is constantly under to behave either in a way that is consistent with our Constitution (generally believed to be an enduring document - nevermind this "penumbra"/"aura"/"borealis" or whatever liberals are calling it these days), or in a way that is consistent with an ethical viewpoint. That poses a danger to society when the "ethical" viewpoint turns out to be something like "A woman's right to choose to abort her child is paramount, even when that child is moments away from being born."

That is not to say that both cannot be one and the same sometimes, but then sometimes they're not.

Just a thought...

18 posted on 12/01/2003 2:01:19 PM PST by Monkey King
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To: nickcarraway
Thank you for this timely update! I will never shop there again. This last bit of rubbish is BEYOND THE PALE. We live near several of their stores and have young-adult nieces and nephews. They'll be getting books and jewelry and gummy bear worm vitamins for Christmas.
19 posted on 12/01/2003 2:25:13 PM PST by agrarianlady
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To: PoorMuttly
But now A&F will offer food for Muttly. :)
20 posted on 12/01/2003 3:13:09 PM PST by jjm2111
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