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| Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)
Posted on 12/01/2003 9:06:21 AM PST by jmc813
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To: Dane
You all(Libertarians, Constitution party cheerleaders, or general malcontents of life) are too comedic to be taken seriously, kinda of like Al Sharpton. What is so bad about criticizing large government if it is enacted by Republicans? Even the most conservative of politicians are wrong sometimes. Would you really prefer that all FR threads were like the "Day in the Life" threads?
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:02:20 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: kevao
Why do you find it so difficult to understand why a conservative might feel abandoned by a party Oh I don't know, maybe, because we are pursuing a War on Terrorism.
Look dude, cry all you want, it's an act, for you know that Hillary or Gore would have been 1000 times worse, but you would rather rant and act like some shite flagellating himself bleeding, shouting, "I have been abandoned by Bush".
JMO, it is a tiresome act on FR.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:03:16 AM PST
by
Dane
To: jmc813
Bush has figured out what the public wants.
What the public wants is free government money, not fiscal responsibility.
The fiscal conservative argument doesn't appeal to many people in these times, so no practical politician is going to spend much time making the case for it.
To: tkathy
GWB is doing his best to get reelected, thereby keeping Dean or Hillary from ruining the country! Sometimes y'just hafta ruin the country in order to prevent anyone else from ruining it.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:05:24 AM PST
by
Jim Cane
To: tkathy
GWB is doing his best to get reelected, thereby keeping Dean or Hillary from ruining the country!Which they would. The only problem with that reasoning is that when Clinton was in office, the Republicans had some backbone and fought against gross over-extension of government programs.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:05:28 AM PST
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: jmc813
What is so bad about criticizing large government Criticizing is one thing but accusing Bush of "abandoning" conservatives is just flat out false.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:05:53 AM PST
by
Gumption
To: Dane
Oh I don't know, maybe, because we are pursuing a War on Terrorism.I'm 100% behind Bush's foreign policy -- not one complaint. But what do the Farm Bill, the Energy Bill, and a prescription-drug entitlement program have to do with the War on Terrorism?
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:06:21 AM PST
by
kevao
To: jmc813
What is so bad about criticizing large government if it is enacted by Republicans? Even the most conservative of politicians are wrong sometimes. Would you really prefer that all FR threads were like the "Day in the Life" threads? Are you suggesting Hillary would be better.
Look I know that I don't live in a perfect world, but I also know that Bush is 1000 times better than Hillary.
I just get tired of the contant whining on micro machinations based on someone flagellating themself on principle.
An easy question to ask. Who is better in your opinion? Hillary or GW.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:07:04 AM PST
by
Dane
To: PhiKapMom
More of the same from the same anti-Bush crowd! Many on this thread are not "anti-Bush". I personally can name a ton of good things he's done and fully plan to vote for him next year (barring him signing the AWB renewal). However, I feel it is healthy to vigorously protest expansions of government, regardless of who's doing it, and unfortunately, this administration has been doing a heck of a lot of government expanding.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:07:41 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: jmc813
Are you claiming that one cannot be a small-l libertarian and conservative at the same time?Aren't there important differences between small-l libertarian and "conservative" thinking?
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:08:02 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Pero treinta miles al resto.)
To: jmc813
Are you claiming that one cannot be a small-l libertarian and conservative at the same time?Sounds a bit like Convenient Conservatism to me.
To: jmc813
When does the conservative base of the GOP, a base that remains firmly committed to the principle of limited government... And I must disagree with Paul here - those Republicans committed to limited government are a small and shrinking faction of today's GOP, not the base. Bush knows this, too.
To: tkathy
LOL,,"Don't throw me in that briar patch!"
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:09:53 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
To: Dane
Are you suggesting Hillary would be better. Of course not. I've said countless times on this thread that I'm voting with good concience for Bush next year.
I just get tired of the contant whining on micro machinations based on someone flagellating themself on principle.
I'm sorry, but expanding the government more than Bill friggin' Clinton did is by no means a "micro-machination" IMO.
An easy question to ask. Who is better in your opinion? Hillary or GW.
Bush, of course. But I don't see what Hillary has to do with this article.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:10:57 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: jmc813
Would you really prefer that all FR threads were like the "Day in the Life" threads?The anti-Bushies like to mock those threads. You know, if you don't like them, don't go on them. If you don't like FR, don't post here.
If FR becomes as you fear, then I will get bored and not post. I'm still posting.
And so are you.
To: Dane
flagellating themself on principle. Why must you belittle people for having principles. And I'm gonna look up flagellating just to make sure that's what you're doing.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:12:10 AM PST
by
Gumption
To: AmishDude
Sounds a bit like Convenient Conservatism to me. What facets of small-l libertarian philosiphy do you find incompatible with conservatism?
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:12:40 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: Dane

Hey look the medicare bill was a certainty
No bill is a certainty when a President isn't afraid to veto a bad one. and this medicare bill has the seeds of privatization, something a Hillary/Ted bill would never have.
It's more spending and more entitlements now, in return for the will-o-the-wisp promise by politicians of spending cuts later. It's a surrender to demagoguery, and to the premise that the government ought to pay for people's prescription drugs with money confiscated from others.
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:13:16 AM PST
by
Sabertooth
(No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
To: jmc813; RonPaulLives
Over here!
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:14:11 AM PST
by
carenot
(Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
To: tkathy
Well stated. The folks complaining here are the same ones that the RATS have manipulated for so long. Get their pet goal sidetracked and they will sit on their hands and not vote.
Like Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute, and most of them live!"
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posted on
12/01/2003 10:14:23 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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