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Silveira cert announcement soon!
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/silveira/status.asp ^ | Keep and Bear Arms.com

Posted on 11/30/2003 4:26:45 PM PST by toothless

"Silveira v. Lockyer is currently on appeal to the United States Supreme Court. The Justices have a Conference on the case on November 26, 2003. We're hoping to hear on the following Monday that they will be hearing this lawsuit. If they do, it will be the first time in the history of this nation that a true Second Amendment case is argued and briefed on both sides by competent and informed counsel."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; silveiravlockyer
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1 posted on 11/30/2003 4:26:46 PM PST by toothless
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To: *bang_list
bang
2 posted on 11/30/2003 4:27:03 PM PST by toothless
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To: toothless
They'll duck it.
3 posted on 11/30/2003 4:36:08 PM PST by pabianice
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To: toothless
I was just searching for news on this.

I imagine they will wimp out.

4 posted on 11/30/2003 4:39:20 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: toothless
We better do this now since the Dems will never allow another Republican appointment to the bench.
5 posted on 11/30/2003 4:41:19 PM PST by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: toothless
If SCOTUS affirms the 2nd Amendment, GREAT!

If they TRASH IT ---- Then there WILL be WAR!
6 posted on 11/30/2003 4:45:35 PM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; pabianice
Agreed.

We can hope though.
7 posted on 11/30/2003 4:49:41 PM PST by toothless
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To: umgud
We better do this now since the Dems will never allow another Republican appointment to the bench.
The answer to this problem is more Republicans in the Senate. (hopefully some will have some "Giuliani's", aka b*lls).
8 posted on 11/30/2003 4:50:51 PM PST by smileee
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To: steplock
They also understand that if they trash the 2nd that it would lead to wholesale defiance & open calls from the Dems for gun confiscation with gun owners taunting how many dead politicians do you want! That is why they will do everything they can to duck the case .
9 posted on 11/30/2003 4:56:33 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: umgud
We better do this now since the Dems will never allow another Republican appointment to the bench.

After Republican appointed O'Connor and Kennedy have started relying on things like European attitudes, laws, and treaties instead of our Constitution, I wouldn't put too much concern about the nature of Republican or Democrat appointees. They're all gonna do the same thing: ignore the original intent of the Constitution. And there is nothing we can do about it.

10 posted on 11/30/2003 5:15:35 PM PST by templar
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To: steplock
If they TRASH IT ---- Then there WILL be WAR!

Wasn't one in California, DC, New York City, New Jersey, etc. Why would there be one now?

11 posted on 11/30/2003 5:17:55 PM PST by templar
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To: smileee
"(hopefully some will have some "Giuliani's", aka b*lls)."

Rudy is an anti-gun RINO. Like Colin Powell, he bacame a Republican because he sensed that's where the power is and will be in the future when he wants to tap into the "inner circle." He and Powell both sold their souls.

12 posted on 11/30/2003 6:07:59 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: steplock
If SCOTUS affirms the 2nd Amendment, GREAT!
If they TRASH IT ---- Then there WILL be WAR!

I wonder when they'll start to feel the political heat...perhaps not before the marriage amendment passes?

13 posted on 11/30/2003 6:12:27 PM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: templar
"Wasn't one in California, DC, New York City, New Jersey, etc. Why would there be one now?"

They haven't tried to take them from Georgia, Alabama, TEXAS, Idaho, Montana, and well you get my drift.

I agree at one level that nine out of ten gunowners will turn them in meekly and say "Please don't hurt me." But with 100 million gun owners that still leaves a group of TEN MILLION hard core folks. Many of them will be former military...many with combat experience and some of those will have SpecOps combat experience from every war since WWII.

Look how long it took them to get Eric Rudolf and he was just a dog faced private. Imagine a thousand SEALS with a reason to put their dark arts to good use.

Remember the Y2K scare? My best friend had just retired as an 05 in army special forces. He was living in the Maine woods. He threw a party for four of his old SF teams (most had retired at about the same time)....that's 60 green berets gettin' stewed. When he came home on leave, he told me the plan was to just party and if the world went to hell, they planned to go to the nearby interstate and go up and down to the exits three away and just "DROP THE SPANS" I asked him how and he just grinned. THAT'S the kind of folks you don't want angry at the government!

I asked my buddy why he'd want to do that...blow the bridges and he said that in that location it would force anybody looking for them to come to them through the deep woods and it was just a textbook exercise of the type they'd done their whole careers. He said that even if they wanted (I didn't bother to ask who "they" were) to chopper insert, the boys had ways to deal with that....He was almost gleeful. Almost.....

I don't think the RATS and globalists in the pubbies have thought such a thing through if the USSC trashes the 2nd Amendment. And with the number of RINOS and CFR members on the Court....I expect them to do just that. Did anybody see the ABC evening news tonight? See the piece on the world of the future being here now? It's the mark of the beast...and it's coming soon.

14 posted on 11/30/2003 6:39:12 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
I don't think the RATS and globalists in the pubbies have thought such a thing through if the USSC trashes the 2nd Amendment. And with the number of RINOS and CFR members on the Court....

I agree. If they do it, the sooner the better since many Patriots are getting too old to do anything about it.

If they wait 30 years, the younger generation will be so brainwashed that they will eternally lick the jackboot of tyranny.

But if they do it now, they are likely to get their tails handed to them.

15 posted on 11/30/2003 6:45:42 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Mulder; Travis McGee; Squantos; wardaddy; Shooter 2.5; Jeff Head
"If they wait 30 years, the younger generation will be so brainwashed that they will eternally lick the jackboot of tyranny."

I agree totally. I see it already in the kids I teach. I reach maybe 20% of those but who knows how long the truth takes hold in the face of such evil? First of all, I have to remember this thing is not on MAN's timetable. There are forces at work beyond the realm of human experience. So, I accept that and just roll with the ride. I wait and I watch and I stand by to try and make a difference wherever I'm needed. If that effort costs me my life....I'm okay with that. Just so long as it counts. I'm pretty sure my fellow freepers feel the same way. Hey Travis McGee, squantos, wardaddy, shooter2.5, and Jeff Head.....?

16 posted on 11/30/2003 7:14:21 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier; Mulder
Col. Ulius Louis Amoss .........bump to the top !

Ya'll Stay Safe !

17 posted on 11/30/2003 8:04:18 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: ExSoldier; Travis McGee; Squantos
Bump....interesting timeline on Commie News Network right now on the Maar el Sharif fortress campaign. Lots of film and reviews I had not seen before.

Spann RIP.
18 posted on 11/30/2003 8:34:03 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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To: wardaddy
Changing channel to watch.....Stay Safe !
19 posted on 11/30/2003 8:35:55 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: ExSoldier; Mulder; Squantos; Eaker
Tyrants usually get overconfidant and move too quickly. Their best course would be to just wait another generation, but they probably won't.


20 posted on 11/30/2003 8:45:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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