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God Has One Foot Out the Door [Part 5, God Is No Fairy Tale]

Posted on 11/26/2003 2:03:09 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

I'm no psychic but I 'went out on a limb' and boldly predicted on this forum that we would defeat Saddam. Some experts went out on a limb the other way. Hackworth called for Rumsfeld's resignation the day before it was obvious we would win. I had an inside scoop, you see. People were certain decades ago that the United Nations would have the power to drag anyone it wanted, anyone on earth, off to trial at a world court. Christians were certain that the Bible would be spread throughout the world, and now we see it is very possible through the internet, word-for-word. Others were certain that the Europeans would re-unite in a new empire much like Rome. Most conservatives were certain that Johnson's 'war against poverty' would be a disaster.

How did we know all these things? God's Word, found in the Bible. How did we accurately predict that there will be no lasting peace until Jesus returns? How can we be certain that the Euphrates River will one day dry up? How do we know that Bagdhad or a city very near it will be the 'Sin City' Capitol of the World and that fundamentalist Islam is doomed to fail there? [Why I predicted we would win.] How did people accurately predict that China would become a major land power, with 200 million soldiers?

I have some old photocopies in a three ring binder. Those old, faded photocopies were given to me in 1985. I cherish those sheets of paper. Not a year passes that I don't refer to them. They came from a newsletter, "The Last Days", Volume 8. At least, that's what I penned on the first sheet. They convinced me that the Bible is not just any other book. Any prediction you find in the Bible will come true. .And if the Bible is no ordinary book, then God is no ordinary being, it stands to reason.

Some people take one small part of the Bible and claim that disproves God. It's not that simple. One part of the Bible might seem to be mysterious, but a century from now, it could be cleared up.

For example, here are some unusual, mysterious verses.

Job 26.7: He stretches out the north over the void, and hangs the earth upon nothing. Was that a prediction of Outer Space? It sounds like it to me.

Daniel 12.4 was a prediction of a marked increase in travel and knowledge.

Romans 1. 26-27, some say those verses predicted AIDS, although many other ailments are transmuted through homosexuality and permiscuity.

Habakuk 3.7, a prediction of affliction in Ethiopia.

II Peter 3.3: In the last days there will arise scoffers, walking after their own lusts.

II Peter 3.10-12, a prediction that the surface of the earth would dissolve from intense heat.

Those last three verses were used back in the 1800s to 'prove' that the Bible must be incorrect. Intellectuals at the time said, "We all know that's impossible, don't we?" They declared the Bible dead because of Peter 3.10-12. If someone seems to prove that the Bible is a lie, and you feel doubt, remember that! Those old photocopies covered that one in-depth:

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...This very verse was used nearly a century ago to prove that the Bible couldn't have been divinely inspired because, "How could there be a fire big enough to burn the whole world? Silly fisherman!" It took over two more generations for science to catch up to what God had spoken through Peter, that an atomic reaction could actually melt the basic building blocks of matter itself. God was prophesying how the world would end...

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Prior to that, intellectuals in previous centuries claimed that bread falling from the sky was impossible. Wrong. They claimed that the Bible must be a fairy tale because there is no way a bush could have flames rise up from it without being damaged. Wrong. They claimed that the Red Sea would never part. Impossible they said. Wrong again. All of those things were, in time, proven scientifically, but many of the doubters of those previous generations became atheists because they obsessed over a single mystery here or a single 'impossibility' there.

Or how about this prediction?

Isa.34.4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

If you look at a scroll rolling up from the side view, you see a circle shrinking in on itself. It looks exactly the same way a ball of stars gavitating inwards would look.

There are 3,856 references to prophesies in the Bible, none of which were ever disproven. In fact, according to those old photocopy sheets, 5 out of 6 prophesies were proven to be correct already. The remaining 1out of 6, according to those old sheets, are yet to be fulfilled. There is no mortal being who has ever made so many accurate predictions without some special trick, and without Divine Guidance. No religion on earth has such a long history of accurate predictions, spanning back thousands of years. The only religion close to Christianity in that respect is the Jewish faith, and both faiths overlap, essentially confirming one another in many ways.

We need not stop with the Bible, however. There was Joan of Arc, who's amazing achievements must make one wonder. There is the Virgin Mary. When one studies Fatima and all the other amazing things that happen around people devoted to Mary, one must conclude that either Mary visits in the name of God, or that there is some kind of 'deceptive supernatural activity'.

I single out Fatima because there were thousands of eye witnesses to a sign, and because a shepherd girl predicted the rise of the Soviet Empire.

Here is a good place to start regarding Fatima:

http://www.fatima.org/story1.html

One thing to keep in mind, the Virgin Mother comes before trouble. I like to think that she comes to give heart to people before difficult times. She was seen recently in California and in Egypt. Prior to Clinton's Kosovo bombing raid, she was seen in Yugoslavia.

Then there was Eva Hart's mother. The Hart family was planning on going on the Titanic's maiden voyage. But Eva Hart's mother said it was an insult to God to call a ship 'unsinkable' and she said that anyone who boards her would be punished. She did not want to go. But, after a heated argument, the father insisted. So they went. Eva Hart's mother never slept at night during that voyage. She was awake and alert when the ship crashed into an ice berg-- at night. Eva and her mother were put on a life boat. Her father remained. Just before the ship sank, Eva's father called out, "Eva Hart, you behave now! Be a good girl!" That was the last time she heard her father.

Evil might be alive and well, but so is God. Our nation is putting its back to God, but we can keep God in our hearts, and in our homes. Tomorrow, we will celebrate Thanksgiving. I'll drop bye the forum and make what might be a brief op-ed.

FReegards, Safe Journeys, and for those who stay away from the FR tomorrow, Happy Thanksgiving.


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1 posted on 11/26/2003 2:03:10 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Bush's fault
2 posted on 11/26/2003 2:04:28 PM PST by Republicus2001
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Part 4: Thread pulled. "Too explicit". I guess that's what happens when you talk about Barney Frank, the NEA, and Kennedy's state. [I have part of the thread on hard drive, but not the best part, the closing statement of hope. If anyone saved it, please send me the closing paragraph of hope. That came to me last-minute.]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1028252/posts
Part 3: Evil Alive and Well in the US

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1027528/posts
Part 2: Infanticide and the NEA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1027147/posts
Part 1, Rise of the Anti-Christians
3 posted on 11/26/2003 2:12:40 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: ladyinred; goldstategop; Brian S; Drango; gcruse; TonyRo76; BlkConserv; WhiteGuy; logician2u; ...
A ping and a "Thank you" to all for caring about God and Country.

My closing statement of hope in Part 4 [which was deleted], if anyone has it, please post it. I saved a rough draft of the rest.

FReegards....
4 posted on 11/26/2003 2:18:53 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Elsie; AndrewC; jennyp; lockeliberty; RadioAstronomer; LiteKeeper; Fester Chugabrew; ...
Pingorama!
5 posted on 11/26/2003 2:23:58 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv
Turn around go back down go back the way you came
Can’t you see the flash of fire ten times brighter than the day
And behold the mighty city broken in the dust again
Oh God the pride of man broken in the dust again
Turn around go back down go back the way you came
Babylon is laid to waste egypt’s buried in her shame
Their mighty men are beaten down the kings are fallen in the ways
Oh God the pride of man broken in the dust again

Turn around go back down go back the way you came
Terror is on everyside though the leaders are dismayed
Those who put their faith in fire in fire their faith shall be repaid
Oh God the pride of man broken in the dust again

Turn around go back down go back the way you came
Shout a warning to the nations that the sword of God is raised
On babylon that mighty city rich in treasure wide in fame
It shall cause thy towers to fall and make it be a pyre of flame
Oh God the pride of man broken in the dust again

Thou that dwell on many water rich in treasure wide in fame
Bow unto a God of gold thy pride of might shall be thy shame
Oh God the pride of man broken in the dust again

And only God can lead the people back into the faith again
Thy holy mountain be restored thy mercy on thy people lord

--Gordon Lightfoot
6 posted on 11/26/2003 2:38:40 PM PST by js1138
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"Thread pulled. "Too explicit". I guess that's what happens when you talk about Barney Frank, the NEA, and Kennedy's state."

That's not why it was pulled, Arthur, but you know that.

Stay away from the explicit descriptions of perverted sex acts. It's offensive to most of us.
It's another tool of Satan to condition Christians toward accepting the debasement of fellow human beings.
I choose to follow Jesus.

7 posted on 11/26/2003 2:41:40 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The Lord said He will never leave His church and even though many in this nation have turned their backs on God and the truth, I turst in His word and have faith in Him. Regardless of what happens to the nations God will protect His Church and His people

.....and there will be signs in the heavens


8 posted on 11/26/2003 2:44:04 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Well, I've enjoyed all of this I can stand. Please remove me from your ping list. Thanx.
9 posted on 11/26/2003 2:44:28 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: js1138
--Gordon Lightfoot

Or Quicksilver Messenger Service, man.

10 posted on 11/26/2003 4:50:17 PM PST by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: js1138
"Pride of Man" audio clip on Amazon.
12 posted on 11/26/2003 7:53:59 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv
Thanks for the ping!
13 posted on 11/26/2003 11:59:02 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: bondserv; jennyp
Thanks, but I prefer the original.
14 posted on 11/27/2003 9:45:05 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
Actually, that's "Pride of Man", by Hamilton Camp.
15 posted on 11/27/2003 10:03:42 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: js1138
Thanks, but I prefer the original.

I am with you!

16 posted on 11/27/2003 10:23:26 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: Pahuanui
I assume you're right, but lyrics sites aren't very good at crediting songwriters.
17 posted on 11/27/2003 10:30:55 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
True.

The best version I've ever heard is Tony Rice's, solo with a guitar, on his album "Church St. Blues".

18 posted on 11/27/2003 10:55:58 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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