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To: little jeremiah
Sorry, but no new right was created and no "special" protection granted.

And to cite the length of time a bad law has been on the books as justification for it, is poor thinking taken to an artform. Many bad laws can be cited that meet your criteria.

I mean the people who follow the liberal/leftist secular humanist/marxist style revisionist moral relativist one worlder philosophy

Leave anyone out? LOL. Would all the people who disagree with you fall into that rather broad catagory?

I repeat, your rights are not being violated and therefore it is none of your business.

38 posted on 11/26/2003 6:35:52 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Protagoras; little jeremiah
I repeat, your rights are not being violated and therefore it is none of your business.

So lets say that little jeremiah decides to murder Protagoras. Since MY rights aren't being violated then I have nothing to say about it. The act is totally legal moral ethical etc because it doesn't violate my rights.

Or you could look at the complete picture. Now Protagoras' family is bereft and looking for revenge and this will cause ripples of effects throughout society as the fued expands. So the murder of Protagoras does affect my rights.

In the same way homosexual behavior affects all of society by increasing health care costs, increasing the presence of disease, increasing child molestations, damaging the family relationship etc. It affects my rights by destroying my country just as much as the murder of Protagoras would. In fact homosexual behavior damages my rights far more that the murder of P would.

39 posted on 11/26/2003 7:26:39 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Protagoras; John O
There is no inherent right to practice sodomy, and throughout the history of Western Civilization, and indeed, other civilizations as well such as the Vedic civilization, as well as the moral absolutes inculcated by Judeo-Christian scriptures, sodomy has always been considered a crime against nature and society. Only in the last couple of generations - or even one generation - has it become venerated as an inalienable right. Sure, some societies have allowed it - the homoerotic Spartans, the SS elite under Nazism, the New Guinea aborigines who also eat their dead grandfathers, but these are not cultures upon whom our Constitution or laws are based.

By rejecting moral absolutes - which are fairly standard in every monotheistic tradition - we are bringing chaos and destruction upon ourselves. Those who like chaos and destruction - and the ensuing totalitarianism - applaud the legalization of sodomy.

Now being defended not only in the bedroom, but in the public bathrooms of universities, parks and beaches, as well as the public streets across our fair land.
45 posted on 11/26/2003 10:09:50 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Protagoras; little jeremiah; John O
I repeat, your rights are not being violated and therefore it is none of your business.

I disagree. As I see it, just because someones rights aren't violated doesn't mean it's nobody else's business.

First, from where do our rights come from? I believe our rights come from our Creator and as John O said: [Our Creators] opinion is that homosexual behavior is immoral.. Sure, homosexual activists try to twist what the Bible says but in doing so they twist Scripture just as the cults do.

Second, homosexual behavior results in severe health hazards that can affect all of us.

Third, homosexuals, being around 2% (including bisexuals) of the population, account for a third of child molestations. Now that's some of everybody's business. Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Fourth, there is absolutely no evidence homosexuality is genetic. In fact the major factor in determining homosexuality is environment. The fact that thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle supports the environmental factor.

Fifth, homosexuals can change.

So why do we even tolerate homosexualty, let alone accept it? Homosexuals should be encouraged to leave the lifestyle, not continue the destructive lifestyle that it is. And those who truly care for homosexuals will do just that.

48 posted on 11/26/2003 10:23:18 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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