Posted on 11/25/2003 9:59:43 AM PST by Mark Felton
Rush has spent the last several minutes likening Bush to Nixon. Nixon gave us OSHA and the EPA. Bush is giving us Prescription Medicine benefits for seniors.
Rush says the Republican party cannot claim to be the party of smaller government.
This sounds likme the OLD Rush of 10 years ago!
Go Get Em Rush!
Au contraire, my FRiend...Rush has tapped into a rich vein of committed conservative Republicans and independents who are increasingly concerned with--and appalled by--the Bush-led GOP's lack of spending discipline. Many of us have worked 20-30-50 years to see a GOP POTUS and GOP Congress simultaneously in the sincere hope that the Federal Leviathan would be restrained from growing out-of-control. Instead, it's growing faster than ever...what gives?!
"After 9/11 America's mindset began to change, but Rush continues to harp on pre-9/11 themes."
"Pre-9/11 themes" have not gone away just because we are fighting a War on Terrorism (which Rush has enthusiastically endorsed and cheerled, BTW!!)
"Unless he gets up to speed he's going to be talking to a smaller and smaller audience as time goes by."
If "getting up to speed" implies signing onto the Bush GOP's spending bonanza, I believe you are sadly mistaken. Rush's audience continues to stand by him because of his principled conservatism, not for his alleged cheerleading of the Republican issue du juor.
FReegards...MUD
Nuff said.
JMO, but people are trusting GW in handling this big issue and in the bill is included the seeds of privitization, which is a good thing. Something that would never be included in a Hillary bill.
What reasoning. I almost forgot that W was the president on 9/11, and that didn't appear to slow anyone down.
In any event, I hope Dubyuh and his advisors and the GOP Congress get the undeniable message that conservatives are rightly concerned with their free-spending record over the last three years!! There's still time to right their ship before next November...and if they do, I can foresee a Reagan'84-like landslide fer the GOP in the offing!!
FReegards...MUD
D'a$$hole said that?! Doesn't sound like something that RAT would say...
"...the other side of the coin is that there isn't a groundswell against it."
Obviously not enuff to stop it from becoming reality...let's hope it doesn't come back and bite us on the butt!!
"JMO, but people are trusting GW in handling this big issue and in the bill is included the seeds of privitization, which is a good thing. Something that would never be included in a Hillary bill."
I hope this privatization becomes a reality like y'all claim...I reckon this is but the first in many battles we will be fighting over entitlement spending in the upcoming years. Hopefully, future battles will result in decreased entitlement spending instead of dramatically higher. That'd really help my self-esteem...LOL!!
FReegards...MUD
I am honestly perplexed as to why you would say this.
Sure, you're statement would ring true if it was asked to folks 65 yrs and older.
But you might be surprised at the response from those 30 yrs old and below.
Hopefully the legislation is written so that is does not promote corporations' "volunteering" their retirees out of their existing programs and into the Federal safety net.
FReegards...MUD
BTW...it's not only Rush slamming Dubyuh on this Prescrition Drug Bill...the local Richmond conservative radio talkshow host just called Dubyuh "Lyndon Baines Bush!!" OUCH!!
Look, I think Medicare and the insurance companies have managed to drive up the cost of health care. There is no easy solution to this, despite what Rush says. There are many, many factors in this problem, ranging from trial attorneys, insurance profiteering, companies who want to avoid paying for excessive insurance, demands for AIDS treatment, citizens who think everything should be free, use of emergency rooms by Medicaid types, drug companies, foreign countries who demand drugs cheaper in order to enter their market, excessive research and testing costs, etc. etc. etc. I probably could list another 100 reasons for the health care mess, ALL of which contribute to the high cost and lack of availability in some areas.
This bill is an attempt to turn the Titanic. It is not the end solution but merely a small start. I think conservatives are getting upset over hyperbole from radio hosts, myself.
Dane...Are you honestly for returning this country to that deswcribed and enumerated in our Constitution?
If so, and you also advocate this Win Incrementally strategy, at what point in time would you say we'll start seeing real results?
4 yrs...10 yrs...25...50...100?
No matter how long, it only serves to give the Left ample time to defeat the purpose, as they've shown repeatedly that they're more than capable of doing.
RE: Judicial nominees.
I do not think it good to make policy decisions on health care based on radio talk show hosts and/or columnists.
I prefer to look at what is actually being done. For example, why would you take Rush's word over Newt's? Why believe George Will over Senator Frist? All of us can disagree about whether or not this will work and whether or not it is too expensive (I happen to think not given current health care costs) but to act like the Republicans and the President are simply interested in creating a big, pork-type boondoggle is simply demagoguing, in my opinion.
Why should they have to? The ww2 generation was not the greatest generation they were the grasshopper generation. They frolicked and played instead of saving for retirement and now they want the ants to give them our food during the winter.
If they need money for drugs I hear wal-mart is hiring.
Let me put it to you this way: the generation that fought WWII (like my father) did pay their way, and put their kids through school. They didn't have a lot of help from the US government to do that. My parents paid for my education without student loans or Pell Grants. They did the same for my 3 sisters and my brother.Now most of their drugs were covered by insurance, but even the co-pay on their medications was quite expensive. I suppose you think my mom should be out there in her wheelchair working as a Wal-Mart greeter. And my dad should have hobbled around on crutches to do something to get his heart medicine.
You are young and perhaps have not had sick relatives yet. I hope for your sake you get gain some compassion.
I guess becuz both Newt and Frist have shown the propensity to be overcome with Inside-the-Beltway Fever...and I haven't heard Will's take on this legislation.
"All of us can disagree about whether or not this will work and whether or not it is too expensive..."
Beyond that argument, I would value your opinion on Dubyuh's and the GOP's Discretionary Domestic Spending record to date...how the heck can OUR SIDE be outpacing the admittedly out-of-control spending growth of Slick Willie and the RATS' record of '93-'94?! We're supposed to be the Party of Fiscal Displine!!
"...to act like the Republicans and the President are simply interested in creating a big, pork-type boondoggle is simply demagoguing, in my opinion."
Perhaps, but until the GOP and Bush demonstrate the ability to rein in Federal Domestic Spending, it's not demagoguing to come to the conclusion that we have lost our principles with respect to promoting Limited Government!!
FReegards...MUD
Charlotte (Wingnut) Corday
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